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  1. 12 points
    Ok so let's get to the nitty gritty here. Men can be and are sexually harassed. Much like domestic violence it's 100% something that does happen to men but is not talked about nearly as much as what happens to women. Nearly 1 in 5 ( roughly 17%) complaints to the EEOC are by men. A survey by Quinnipiac University found 20 percent of men surveyed had been harassed. While they government does not track the gender of perpetrators researchers say that men are more likely to harass other men then women ( though women can be perpetrators). The number of men who have reported harassment has stayed pretty steady for the past decade. The movie is correct in the idea that a lot of sexual harassment is about power. It's also a way to punish people who do not meet the ideal gender norms and for men in particular, those who are not sufficiently like the idealized version of their (perceived) gender. Many men do not report their harassment much like many male victims of sexual and domestic assault. they feel they will not be believed because we live in a society that thinks only women can be victims. A 2014 study found that Canadian woman were twice as likely to report harassment Han their male counterparts( 20% vs just 9 %) To quote a survivor who told his story in this really great article from the Washington Post : "Funk, 53, said he was at first hesitant to talk about what he said he was experiencing at work. “ ‘You are a man. You should be able to protect yourself,’ ” he recalled thinking to himself." But even incredibly "masculine" men can be subject to harassment. In 2016 Terry Cruz says he was groped by Adam Venit at a party. Venit is a very well known executive who works at William Morris Endeavor. He's not alone. Brandon Fraser claims in 2003 former HFPA president Philip Berk groped him. These are both famous men, powerful in their own right yet they both have stories about harassment. While this movie is 100% the panicking of rich straight white men in the wake of the Anita Hill Clarence Thomas testimony ( yet here we are in 2019 with another sexual predator on the bench. I'm not going off on that rant) there is a germ of truth in it. Sexual harassment can happen to anyone https://www.canadianwomen.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Facts-About-Sexual-Assault-and-Harassment.pdf https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2502 https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/men-account-for-nearly-1-in-5-complaints-of-workplace-sexual-harassment-with-the-eeoc/2018/04/08/4f7a2572-3372-11e8-94fa-32d48460b955_story.html https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/statistics/enforcement/sexual_harassment_new.cfm
  2. 10 points
    Conspiracy theory: Jason Mantzoukas is Michael Bay. He *is* on Twitter.
  3. 9 points
    I mean, this film doesn't understand how anything works: email, computers, forklifts, corporate structure, Prozac, virtual reality, marriage, the law, sex...
  4. 9 points
    I was a big Michael Crichton fan when I was young, I read a lot of his books. But I stopped when he got on his “global warming is a hoax” era. I believe he served as a consult for the Bush White House. That was very disappointing for me from someone who was into science and was a doctor. This movie makes me think he was very right wing all along. He’d be on TV saying these women are ruining men’s lives and such.
  5. 9 points
    I’m listening to the episode and had some info on a part of the movie that confused you. When Disneyland first opened you bought ride tickets in addition to paying general admission. So whoever wrote that line(assuming it’s Crichton) was thinking about pre-1981 Disney.
  6. 9 points
    Funny story. I wrote that post 13 feet in the air. I was doing a photoshoot that needed a birds-eye-view and so I had to climb this rickety scaffolding and once I was up there I was NOT coming down until the shoot was over. So while I had time to kill I wrote the Aluoette post. I guess it's not that funny and barely a story... but you guys get the jist.
  7. 9 points
    Steve Mnuchin’s role is particularly interesting since it was CLEAR to me as someone who work in costumes and wardrobe that every aspect of Katherine Heigl’s costuming, makeup, and hair is supposed to look like Ivanka Trump. There is no way this wasn’t intentional.
  8. 8 points
    So, what do you all think happens after the credits roll? The movie frames it as a happy ending, and I suppose there is some measure of vindication at the end for Douglas’ character, but ultimately he still works for a company whose Machiavellian CEO and corporate toady sidekicks were more than willing to frame and fire him for incompetence over an allegation that they knew to be false. They clearly preferred Demi for the job, who wasn’t fired so much for what she did, but because she was publicly caught. Why should Douglas think for even a second that there won’t be further retaliation? And even if he made such a good impression at the shareholders’ meeting that he’s effectively proved his worth and saved his job, why would he want to stay there? Fuck that place.
  9. 8 points
    While I have my own relatively mundane story about the choir director at my church (who later served a lengthy jail sentence for plying other teenage boys with alcohol and smut), I was thankfully old enough and cynical enough to see the writing on the wall and extricate myself from that nightmare-in-the-making. But I wanted to take a moment to say I'm glad all of you are here and able to turn this terrible movie into a net positive. And, if we're talking Spike Jonze dance videos, to share the greatest perfume ad of all time:
  10. 8 points
    I wanted to thank Gigi-tastic for bringing up that sexual assault does happen to men and that it’s about power and not sex. I would actually like the forums to weigh in on this. It is only tangentially related to this film but it has bothered me since I heard it. You guys may know that there are sexual misconduct allegations against Michael Douglas, and also that there are also long-standing rumors that Kirk Douglas was a sexual predator (it is alleged that he raped Natalie Wood when she was 16). When Kirk was honored at the Golden Globes (apparently as a eff you to the ladies wearing Times Up pins), I read some articles about the rumors around him. There is one story that he readily admits to: Now, obviously, no one likes an anti-Semite and there is some triumph in this. But I was also deeply disturbed with how he used sex as a weapon. Like why not tell her when she’s all hot for you and say, “I can’t fuck you because you are an asshole”. Why do it mid act? It seems like sexual violence in some form. Am I wrong about this? This quote from: https://nypost.com/2016/12/08/how-kirk-douglas-charmed-old-hollywoods-finest-beauties/ I can’t find the original article I read it in.
  11. 8 points
    Omission: Dude, totally fuck a hotel room door electric key card reader, for real. I've stayed at a bunch of hotels lately, and the fact that it takes 20 swipes before the door will open is probably the most realistic tech thing in this movie.
  12. 8 points
    I agree that this movie is terrible. I also agree wholeheartedly that so called men's rights activists do not give a flying fuck for male survivors or the well being of men in general. For example On International Women's Day many of them demand an International Men 's Day even though that already exists and is November 19. Ironically the day is rarely googled on its actual date. They care about the fact women have a day at all not that they really want their own day. I also agree that yes women are much more likely to be harassed. I've had several conversations with other female friends about how we do not know *any* women who HAVEN'T been sexually assaulted or harassed including ourselves. However I don't think that negates the fact this does happen to men as well and those survivors deserve every bit of respect and compassion as their female counterparts. It could just be my reading but it feels like you're saying that because a smaller number of harassment is reported it means less? That what they went through isn't as upsetting because women face worse? Again this could be my interpretation. I honestly don't think you can compare this kind of thing. It's deeply personal and affects each survivor differently. I think that our society tends to fail people who speak out but I really think that we fail male survivors in a unique and horrible way. It's bad enough to not think you will be believed because the system is awful. Even worse when you think people won't believe you because of your gender.
  13. 8 points
    I don't think anyone denies that sexual harassment can and does happen to men, but horseshit movies like this don't help, and I don't care for the arguments that try to compare the relatively uncommon suffering and exploitation of men under the patriarchy with the extremely common and usually much more severe suffering of women. It's just not equivalent. Unfortunately there are disgusting organizations claiming to fight for "men's rights" who will use these stats and the testimonies of male victims to push their own sexist, homophobic, and often white supremacist agenda. As someone said on the podcast, this film seems like it would be a real favourite with that crowd, pandering to their inflated sense of victimhood and entitlement.
  14. 8 points
    This movie would have been crazy dark if the movie had ended with the police shooting Julia. From their point of view, after being released for suspicion of murder, this person rushed over to Tessa’s house, murdered her, beat and tied up her husband, and seems to be in the process of burning evidence and kidnapping their daughter. She never speaks to the 911 operator, so for all the police know, Tessa was making the call! Honestly, I thought that’s where the movie was going and that Tessa’s final line was almost a fuck you. “I won’t let my daughter remember me as the crazy one. She’ll remember you as the person who killed her mother!”
  15. 7 points
    @Smigg. & @GrahamS. I want to honestly thank the both of you for opening up to us all. I know personally how hard it is to even talk about this, but y'all are doing a good thing (much better than this fucking movie) and we're all here with y'all. My experiences with sexual assault and harassment started when I was just 11 years old, and has continued well into my 20s, so I seriously want to thank y'all for sharing today. To make an incredibly dark subject light again because I'm sure none of us can deal without trying to make each other laugh I present this.
  16. 7 points
    Even though it was a small moment in the film, I was surprised that the "Happy to be me Barbie" was not discussed in this episode. When Michael Douglas and Dennis Miller's wives are at dinner, they are discussing whether or not to get such an item for the daughter for Christmas. I thought that this was maybe a joke, but there is some reality to this item. A "Happy to be me" doll exists, but it was not made by Mattel (the company that makes Barbie). It was designed to be the anti-Barbie. Here's a picture of the doll: On the back of the packaging it says "Let's face it. Girls don't grow up to have fashion doll bodies. The "Happy To Be Me" doll gives your child a more realistic model of the female anatomy. Our doll doesn't look like a fashion doll because real women don't have pinched waists, tiny feet, and legs disproportionately long for their bodies. Real women move and bend their arms and legs. So does the "Happy To Be Me" doll. And that makes her more fun. She can read a book, ride a bike and wave goodbye. Ultimately, we believe playing with the "Happy To Be Me" doll will help your child grow up to be happier with who she is." The doll debuted back in 1991 by a company called High Self-Esteem Toys Corp. A year after the initial doll's debut, her creator, Cathy Meredig, who had poured $90,000 of her own money into manufacturing the line, started developing dolls of different races and ethnicities as well. I could not find any evidence that it is still in existence today and clearly kids were not interested in playing with a more "realistic" doll (Although I am not sure how "realistic" it is when its thighs still do not touch and its measurements still come out to be 36-27-38). But if you are still interested in buying one for your kid, you can still buy one of these dolls on ebay for about $13.
  17. 7 points
    Congrats, @PollyDarton! C’est bon!
  18. 7 points
    Both of these points, plus the "real detective work only happens on printed paper" attitude, make me think this movie was written by boomers who watch too much Dateline.
  19. 7 points
    I’m 100% on Julia’s side, but it really was goddamned irresponsible of her to lose track of child in a public area because she had to answer a call from an “unknown” number. You don’t *have* to answer every phone call - especially coming from an unknown number or a number you don’t recognize. That call from the people informing you your car’s warranty is about to expire really isn’t worth a child’s life. No matter what else Tessa did, that fuck up was still on Julia.
  20. 7 points
    Being of the fairly left-leaning political persuasion, I can't help but chuckle at the "of course they do" irony of how con's are already established (or are becoming increasingly more involved) in an industry the right-wing has for so long regarded as a bastion of liberal elitism. Trump has his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, Louise Linton is writing and directing movies and her hubby producer Steven Mnuchin has his thumbs is a plethora of Tinseltown pies (some in partnership with #hetoo Brett Ratner, no less!) Next time your drunk uncle or sister-in-law starts whining about how some "...damn Hollyweird libtard should shut their mouth about politics and stick to acting," hip them to the fact that the Secretary of the Treasury of these here divided states is pretty darned cozy with them elitist SJW cucks they claim to have so much disdain for. Not that facts mean anything anymore in this day and age, by hey, it's still a pretty solid snack to feed trolls. Anyhoo... At some point during this stress-inducing movie after she had been gas-lit for as long as she had, I was waiting for Julia to turn to David and just tell him that shit has gotten far too weird for her; that she's packing up her stuff, going back to San Francisco and ghosting his inattentive ass to "...think things over for a while." At one point, Ali, after presenting Julia with a paper trail of Tessa's past criminal transgressions (which, it should be noted, never again come into play, even when Julia is hauled off to the police department), even suggests that Julia goes back with her to San Francisco. I was screaming at my television, "YES! DO THAT! DO EXACTLY THAT!" Then, in the scene where Tessa flails herself down the stairway, David looks up at Julia with this "How could you?" look on his face. This dude doesn't have Julia's back at all. He's already asking Julia to step into this established life with him and his daughter, and when shit gets real, he's seemingly taking the side of the woman he divorced for a myriad of good reasons. Now, this movie is already women vs. woman enough, so we have to settle for the cards it's dealt us. But, it's really not too much to ask that David stand by Julia and at least listen to her side of the story, is it? That scene in the police station where the detective is acting all dead-to-rights is absolutely infuriating. It's 2017 and you can trace "Julia's" Facebook account access back to Tessa's IP address? Fuck you, movie! Lastly, I listened to the podcast before watching the movie and was under the assumption that, from the way Jason and June regarded it, Julia drove this sad little Ford Fiesta down to her new luxurious life L.A. From their reaction to it, I was envisioning some beat-up aqua marine-colored two-door deal from the early 90's, not the modern C Max version we see Julia driving in the film. While it's not the car I'd buy, I could see someone in the tech/online industry driving this fairly sporty, youthful-ish and affordable hatchback (and one that fits into the narrow and rare parking spaces found in San Francisco). It telegraphs her character pretty well. I mean David drives a BMW in this movie, and he is pretty much a douche, so...
  21. 7 points
    Good point. One of the first things I do on Facebook when I get a friend request, even from someone I might know, is look at the number of friends they have. Because guess what an account with one friend means in the world of identity theft and bots? It means LIAR. It would make sense, seeing as being pretty is the ultimate objective in Tessa's mind. By the time they have the margaritas, Tessa has already stolen Julia's phone and started reaching out to Mike, so it seems more like a gratuitous complement for the sake of disarming Julia in order to get that sweet, sweet personal info. "You're so pretty and talented ... and did I say pretty? Want to tell me about your beauty regimen, including all your morning activity and the route of your morning jog?"
  22. 7 points
    The absolute most irresponsible part of this movie is that it perpetuates the dangerous myth that getting gut-stabbed will kill a person instantly. Tessa just falls on the knife and is dead, when in reality, she could've had enough time to lay there and decide she wanted to Inigo Montoya herself up to slay them all. In fact, the movie would've totally redeemed itself if, instead of Lovey at the door at the end, it had been Tessa bursting through the plate glass door with the knife in her hand. Or better yet, dragging them underwater, Jason-style.
  23. 7 points
    My biggest problem with the movie in respect to the podcast was that it lacks the “ridiculous” that we’ve come to know and love from movies like this on HDTGM. Most of the time with a glorified Lifetime movie there will be something just plain absurd... like with the mothers dating the sons in the Naomi Watts movie. I honestly thought while watching it that the absurd was found in the Ivanka Trump doppelgänger performance of Katherine Heigl, but then it went unmentioned.
  24. 6 points
    What I love about these 2 quotes is that it shows how incompetent the cops are in both directions of the investigation. We really should talk about the interrogation scenes. I'm not going to rent it again, but there is line where the cops are like "You expect us to believe... [explains precisely what happens]" and I'm screaming "YES!" ALSO- the cop says "Sorry, I had to show him the file" when Julia asks where her fiance went... Is that standard detective work!?
  25. 6 points
    This would likely only be if Tessa had used Julia's email to set up her Facebook account, which she couldn't have because she would need to have continual access to the email to use the account. Using her actual email would have been risky because Julia could have gotten Facebook notifications on her email destroying Tessa's plan needlessly. Once she no longer had the phone she would no longer have her email, so I'm assuming she set up a doofer gmail account or something. If she had used Julia's email, then yes... she would have immediately popped up in "People you may know" to anyone who was in her contacts. Without that for Facebook to rely on, it would have only had where she was logging in from to use to suggest her as a friend. Since she moved to southern CA from northern CA she would have been out of her friend's region... HOWEVER... she possibly would have popped up in her fiance's suggestions, busting the whole con pretty early on... or anyone else living in their little community. On the other hand, Tessa would have been smart to not tell Facebook where "Julia" was living to avoid this. My father is an attorney and he had a man set up a fake Facebook account with his picture (that he got off of the law office's website) so that he could sell people fake government bonds. The only reason we found out was because someone who had been contacted by "my dad" to be sold the fake bonds actually called my father personally on the phone to find out if it was legit... he looked him up on their website and called directly like a smart person. We had the fake profile shut down that day, but the guy popped up and did it several more times. The moral of the story is: everyone should search for themselves on FB sporadically.
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