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  1. PollyDarton

    Musical Mondays Week 49 Meet Me in St. Louis

    I know this discussion is pretty much dead, but I found this tonight when I was researching and thought you all may enjoy the info. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/when-halloween-was-all-tricks-no-treats-180966996/
  2. This movie should be exciting! Cool pick!
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    Episode 199 - A Night In Heaven: LIVE!

    Strangely enough- I never realized how similar Kevin Bacon and Bryan Adams looked... has anyone ever seen them in the same room together?
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    Episode 199 - A Night In Heaven: LIVE!

    Yes... I think it was Tawny who kept saying Bryan Adams "Baby you're all that I want"... which just drove me crazy because she called it that a few times. And on that note... somebody help me out. The lyrics are: Baby, you're all that I want When you're lyin' here in my arms I'm findin' it hard to believe We're in heaven Shouldn't it be "I'm findin' it hard to believe we're NOT in heaven"... finding it hard to believe we ARE in heaven doesn't sound like a compliment. Anybody got any thoughts on this?
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    Episode 199 - A Night In Heaven: LIVE!

    A big failure of this movie, that I think the filmmakers thought might be a strength, was that they don't spell out a lot of things and don't tell the whole story in some places. For instance, the weird AF scene with the husband and the woman he runs into and catches up with in the kid's bedroom. I think what happened there is that HUBS used to work with her husband, but he died and they lost touch... here they are reminiscing for no reason and adds nothing to the film except that it shows old Hubsy might not be that far from straying either. They never flat out tell the story of their relationship... as most people don't when they are catching up with people they know. Unfortunately, this vagueness is just strange and uncalled for. And of course the other big vague relationship is Slick and Rick. Slick is Rick's girlfriend and they set it up from the beginning ... I would even say it's the biggest throughline for the entire movie. When we first see Slick on the asinine commercial, the guy watching the commercial says "Tony says that's his best friend's girlfriend"... Tony is the guy dancing with the floor polisher in the hallway and his best friend is Rick. Why they decided to give us this information here is a mystery. When we see her next she is waiting outside Rick's trailer to pick him up... she sees that he's had sex with the blonde girl and is clearly hostile about it, but god love them I think the filmmakers were trying to make their relationship nuanced (and to be fair - FAILED, they were trying to be too smart for this stupid movie.) It's a little like the movie shows them in a rough patch in their relationship and what we see in the end in the shower is them getting back together. The movie NEVER flat out expresses this, but Slick is always hanging around in the background of Rick's scenes... she shows up almost every time. It's like they are trying to show that although she does express some mild jealousy, Rick sleeping around (right or wrong) is a known fact about their relationship. One line of dialogue at the trailer park could have made this clearer. Also - WTF was that commercial for?
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    Episode 199 - A Night In Heaven: LIVE!

    I fully admit that this is anecdotal... and it was also about 2005, but I had a good friend who was a stripper and one night she invited me to go with her to her club to see a Chippendale's type show (generic Chippendales...I can't remember their name.) By the time the dudes showed up , very late, the place was PACKED with ladies who were well on their way to being drunk AF. There were only 4 or 5 guys performing, and yes they wore themed costumes (this seems to be a feature of male dance reviews since it is not as "every day" as women's strip clubs are and by definition are a bit more theatrical... and to be fair lady strippers wear themed costumes too... it's just not the rule.) ANYHOO - the whole point of this post is that - yes - the male dancers have a much different party-line when it comes to touching. In most strip clubs around the US you do NOT touch the female strippers end of story. Male dancers do not seem to have this rule (at least these dancers at this time). I was groped, touched, and my hands were placed on the dancer's bodies by the dancers themselves... many times. If you had dollar bills they let you do all the touching you want. As they went through the crowd it was a veritable free for all. I do not remember a lot of kissing, but I do believe it happened. It was insane... in my memory it was very much similar to the scenes in this movie where the ladies just lost their minds. Also keep in mind that almost every time I have ever seen a male stripper, they do not get to down to the Fully Monty as they say... there's always a tinier banana hammock underneath every layer of clothing...like a filthy russian nesting doll. NOW - it probably goes without saying - this was pre "me too" and I wonder if the Chippendale culture hasn't changed quite a bit. I can only imagine that the dancers touching the female patrons would be verboten these days... maybe the patrons have to sign a consent form? In conclusion - do I believe this this movie is accurate to early 80s male stripper culture? Oh yes I do. PS. I was so happy that Paul mentioned the strip club scene in Mr. Mom, which is one of my favorite movies and I recognized its similarity to Rick's stripping scene instantly. This is the best clip I could find, but it's a hilarious companion to this movie... the stripper in this one is into Michael Keaton.
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    Musical Mondays Week 49 Meet Me in St. Louis

    Yeah... but have y’all had Memphis style BBQ? That shit is Deeeee-licious.
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    Musical Mondays Week 49 Meet Me in St. Louis

    I hear the stage version of St. Louis is terrible. I have never seen it.
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    Musical Mondays Week 49 Meet Me in St. Louis

    Not sure if anyone will find this interesting but me... but one of my favorite things about period movies is that we as creators and viewers are unable to accurately see our current fashion properly. Because of this, period movies often are way more influenced by current fashion than the period in which they are trying to portray. Meet Me in St. Louis is no exception. A lot of the fashion in the movie does make a great effort to be accurate... the mom is the best example, but costume designer Irene Shariff was seemingly not going to put her star in the dowdy, matronly fashions of the time. The early 1900s is best known for women trying to achieve a "pigeon chest" that pulls their bosom way down almost to their waist. I put a little picture together here that shows what the more ideal look for the period would be, next to stills from the film, and then images of 1944.
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    Musical Mondays Week 49 Meet Me in St. Louis

    YAAAAAASSS - MOAR MMISL FAN FICTION!
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    Musical Mondays Week 49 Meet Me in St. Louis

    YAAAS - I hope many of you agree, but this movie is so freaking beautiful to look at.
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    Musical Mondays Week 49 Meet Me in St. Louis

    Yeah - something like that. If you notice a strip club is called a "gentleman's club" that's what that means... they don't want regular ladies to distract from the ladies making money. I had a friend who was a stripper and generally disliked women customers because - as she described it - they were usually there with their man as some act of foreplay and never really spent any money. Go figure.
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    Musical Mondays Week 49 Meet Me in St. Louis

    He's into pain - clearly.
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    Musical Mondays Week 49 Meet Me in St. Louis

    So guys - Rabbiting this last night with some of you was so much fun. I have seen this movie countless times since I was a kid since it was one of my mom's favorites. It still is and we still find time to watch it every Christmas. As strange as this is going to sound, it never occurred to me just how peculiar Tootie is until I was seeing it through your eyes. I always thought it was one of the reasons this movie aged well because it had a little goth kid in it that felt kind of current... know what I mean? Tootie is Wednesday Addams, Lydia Deets, or even Louise Belcher? I don't think I realized that pretty much everything that comes out of her mouth is about death and shit... but I just cracked-up everytime she was on screen because I knew what she was going to say next but wasn't sure how you guys would react. You all did not disappoint! Which leads me to a suggestion - if we ever get sick of "Musical Mondays" just having "Favorite Movie Mondays" might be a great substitution. The person who's turn it is picks a favorite movie that they don't think the group has seen and leads everyone through it. Experiencing one of my favs through you was endlessly enjoyable for me. Thank you guys - SO MUCH!
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    Musical Mondays Week 49 Meet Me in St. Louis

    It might also be worth pointing out that the St. Louis world's fair is the back drop to Devil in the White City - about a serial killer killing people at this time in St. Louis. I wonder why they didn't mention this in this film? EDIT: Nope - wrong - not about St. Louis... sorry.
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