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EPISODE 113 — Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze: LIVE!

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Hey guys, this is my first post, but seeing as this is legitimately one of my favorite movies of all time I feel the need to comment after another awesome episode

 

How did NO ONE notice at TGRI that not only was a cannister of the ooze missing, but so was Professor Perry? The man was literally on the evening news talking about a clean up and all of a sudden he goes missing for....days I'm assuming, even when the turtles rescue him, they don't let him go back to his office or anything.

 

Also gone unsaid, and sadly ignored is that Super Shredder himself was played by Magic Mike star and professional Wrestler Kevin Nash, so we actually had a Clash vs. Nash Battle of the Kevins.

 

Also, and I don't think he planned this, but in the minisode to this movie, Paul talked about a possible Pixar movie about the food in the fridge when the lights go out, and I'm pretty sure TMNT 2 gave it a title unknowingly "Combat Coldcuts" make it happen Pixar

 

And I know it is usually up to Paul to decide if the Almighty Cage would be better in this film, but I'd like to throw in that Mr. Cage would not be best served as Keno, Shredder, or Tokka...but rather as Freddie, the one member of the Foot Clan who worked for April and told the turtles about Tokka and Rahzar wanting a fight

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When I heard they were doing this I was afraid they might shit all over David Warner, who in '91, to my 19-year-old self, was the best thing in the movie ("Affirmative. Yes. Yo. Right on... my man."). So I'm glad they didn't do that but not to mention him at all boggles my mind. He's David Warner, man! The one actor who's literally good in anything, even the worst movies (like Tim Burton's Apes). Show some respect!

 

Also Re the etymology of Cowabunga:

 

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This lovely young adult film actress was such a TMNT fan that she chose the stage name "April O'Neil," and then showed up to comic con one year dressed like this.

 

I'm assuming some nerds spontaneously combusted.

 

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Amen, brother! My distaste for all things Donatello can extend beyond fictional reptilian characters. For instance, compare Donatello's "I-don't-know-what-this-is" David...

 

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With the far superior, and significantly more badass, David sculpture by Bernini...

 

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No fucking comparison. Bernini's David just gave the internet an orgasm, whilst Donatello's David just meekly apologized, assured us that this never happens, and called his mom for a ride home.

 

Let's all just agree right now that a man named Donato di Niccolò di Betto Bardi never existed, thus erasing all future homages to him from the time stream, and we will have the Ninja Turtle Group we deserve: Leonardo, Raphael, Michelangelo, and Bernini.

The How Did This Get Made forums: Where a comparative analysis of Michelangelo's David and Donatello's David can occur just a few posts away from a post that lets us lecherously ogle April O'Neal's tits. The best forum?

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The How Did This Get Made forums: Where a comparative analysis of Michelangelo's David and Donatello's David can occur just a few posts away from a post that lets us lecherously ogle April O'Neal's tits. The best forum?

 

The best forum, indeed.

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The How Did This Get Made forums: Where a comparative analysis of Michelangelo's David and Donatello's David can occur just a few posts away from a post that lets us lecherously ogle April O'Neal's tits. The best forum?

We could have a protracted discussion about how Donatello is actually an important Renaissance artist because he was one of the first pioneers of the contrapposto revival.

 

But I'd need a picture of Paige Turco's cameltoe first.

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We could have a protracted discussion about how Donatello is actually an important Renaissance artist because he was one of the first pioneers of the contrapposto revival.

 

But I'd need a picture of Paige Turco's cameltoe first.

I can't tell you how funny it was to read that post and imagine it was Dr. Krieger saying it.

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But I'd need a picture of Paige Turco's cameltoe first.

Added her on Snapchat, looking forward to some cameltoe being sent my way.

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Amen, brother! My distaste for all things Donatello can extend beyond fictional reptilian characters. For instance, compare Donatello's "I-don't-know-what-this-is" David...

 

front.jpg

 

With the far superior, and significantly more badass, David sculpture by Bernini...

 

bernini_david4.jpg

 

No fucking comparison. Bernini's David just gave the internet an orgasm, whilst Donatello's David just meekly apologized, assured us that this never happens, and called his mom for a ride home.

 

Let's all just agree right now that a man named Donato di Niccolò di Betto Bardi never existed, thus erasing all future homages to him from the time stream, and we will have the Ninja Turtle Group we deserve: Leonardo, Raphael, Michelangelo, and Bernini.

 

I remember sitting in my Art History courses going through Donatello and kept thinking this is the asshole they named a Ninja Turtle after??? I mean we could have named him Bernini or Caravaggio or Titian or literally any of the shit tons of old artist dudes.

 

Also even though I do think Donatello's David is kind of boring I do have to say it is probably the most accurate age wise of all the Davids made during the time. Seriously why did so many artists make Davids?

 

and this piece is rather spectacular

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This lovely young adult film actress was such a TMNT fan that she chose the stage name "April O'Neil," and then showed up to comic con one year dressed like this.

 

I'm assuming some nerds spontaneously combusted.

 

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How there hasn't been a TMNT porn parody yet...

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Because y'all released an art history nerd monster let's also point out how despite Michelangelo's brilliance in sculpture and painting he had no idea what a woman's body looked like

 

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If I were friends with Ninja Turtle Mikey I probably would call him Apple Boobs instead.

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All i am going to say is Yoshi is a dinosaur not a dragon.

 

The large collectable coins in Super Mario World are Dragon Coins, they feature Yoshi on them. Evidence of Yoshi being a dragon.

Could also be said that in the Mario universe, dragons are a subset of dinosaurs, so he could be both in the same way birds are also Dinosaurs and humans are also apes.

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I'm back with something I've been thinking about for a while. I have some dolores umbrage to take with our gracious hosts this time. They call out the casablanca joke when they are saying bye to april at the manhole cover as being dated and not something kids would know about. But I feel like that's a very common trope in kids' entertainment. There is always some influence from things that is either for adults to understand, or that the creators just love so they toss it in. There's also a certain amount of cultural references that kids just kind of go along with, even if they don't fully understand it. I know there were plenty of classic movies that I referenced as a kid without ever having seen them, just picked up from life. I always think of Animaniacs as something that had a lot of that in it, though I can't think of any specific examples right now. Anyone else know what I mean?

 

On a side note, I was at this show, and totally saw Jason later at a not-to-be-named-here party, and personally let him know how amazing it was. I hope I wasn't out of bounds by doing that? People seem have differing opinions on going up to celebrities you see out and about. I wasn't crazy gushing or anything, I tried to play it cool, but I'm not sure how Jason feels about that kind of thing. JASON IF YOU SEE THIS AND REMEMBER THAT HAPPENING AND THOUGHT I WAS AN ASSHOLE I'M SORRY!

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If I were friends with Ninja Turtle Mikey I probably would call him Apple Boobs instead.

This has basically become my all-time favorite thread.

 

The large collectable coins in Super Mario World are Dragon Coins, they feature Yoshi on them. Evidence of Yoshi being a dragon.

Could also be said that in the Mario universe, dragons are a subset of dinosaurs, so he could be both in the same way birds are also Dinosaurs and humans are also apes.

Nintendo has actually referred to him both as a dinosaur and as a dragon throughout Yoshi's history. In SMW, they refer to him as a dinosaur, but in the original Japanese version, the sign outside his house says "Super Dragon Yoshi." That led to him collecting Dragon Coins (and his Final Smash in Super Smash Bros being called the Super Dragon).

 

So, short answer: I think both are correct.

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This has basically become my all-time favorite thread.

 

 

Nintendo has actually referred to him both as a dinosaur and as a dragon throughout Yoshi's history. In SMW, they refer to him as a dinosaur, but in the original Japanese version, the sign outside his house says "Super Dragon Yoshi." That led to him collecting Dragon Coins (and his Final Smash in Super Smash Bros being called the Super Dragon).

 

So, short answer: I think both are correct.

 

is there also some word play when translating from Japanese? I'm not an expert on the Japanese language, so I wouldn't know about the words for dinosaurs or dragons

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Because y'all released an art history nerd monster let's also point out how despite Michelangelo's brilliance in sculpture and painting he had no idea what a woman's body looked like

 

michelangelo-night.jpg

 

If I were friends with Ninja Turtle Mikey I probably would call him Apple Boobs instead.

 

I encourage your's or anyone else's insight on the topic as I'm not sure how we can effectively discuss this movie if we don't at least consider how it pertains to fine art

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When I was a kid, I used to love this movie. I thought Keno was awesome (get well soon, Ernie Reyes Jr!), and it was the perfect segue into Surf Ninjas and Three Ninjas (TMNT 2 being 91, 3 Ninjas being 92, and Surf Ninjas being 93...not to mention Sidekicks with Chuck Norris, also out in 92. ALL 4 of those movies are HDTGM worthy). Looking back at it now, yes it is awful.... but it STILL doesn't hold a candle to the abomination that is TMNT 3.

 

Seriously, fuck that movie.

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I encourage yours any any insight anyone can provide on the topic as I'm not sure how we can effectively discuss this movie if we don't at least consider how it pertains to fine art

 

Let's really think about it. Mikey is supposed to be the real horn dog with women, right? Or at least that's the way the kind of portray him in this movie. He flirts with April a lot and it's clear he wants to get up all on that. Michelangelo the artist, however, was definitely the opposite. There are still rumors (and let's be honest it's probably all true) that Michelangelo was gay which explains why his knowledge of the female body was sub par at best. But within those rumors are Michelangelo being rather sexual. So maybe Mikey is still supposed to embody the artist but of course they wouldn't want to have him show attraction towards men. But what if they thought that Mikey was supposed to be the antithesis of Michelangelo? What if all the turtles are supposed to act in ways their counterparts don't?

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Let's really think about it. Mikey is supposed to be the real horn dog with women, right? Or at least that's the way the kind of portray him in this movie. He flirts with April a lot and it's clear he wants to get up all on that. Michelangelo the artist, however, was definitely the opposite. There are still rumors (and let's be honest it's probably all true) that Michelangelo was gay which explains why his knowledge of the female body was sub par at best. But within those rumors are Michelangelo being rather sexual. So maybe Mikey is still supposed to embody the artist but of course they wouldn't want to have him show attraction towards men. But what if they thought that Mikey was supposed to be the antithesis of Michelangelo? What if all the turtles are supposed to act in ways their counterparts don't?

Like Raphael being so ridiculously Brooklyn? That's kind of like an inverse of an Italian painter right?

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Like Raphael being so ridiculously Brooklyn? That's kind of like an inverse of an Italian painter right?

I completely have an image of Raphael walking through Italy just flipping people off and yelling, "YO I'M WALKIN' HERE!"

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is there also some word play when translating from Japanese? I'm not an expert on the Japanese language, so I wouldn't know about the words for dinosaurs or dragons

There is. The Japanese word for dragon is 竜 (ryuu), and the word for dinosaur is made up of the word for fear and dragon--恐竜 (kyou ryuu).

 

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