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HTGM movies and their RT scores

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Fun fact: the only two positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes for Speed 2: Cruise Control are from Siskel and Ebert.

 

Those two have a history of being contrarian with movies on both negative and positive sides. People have this love affair with them because they weren't snooty film critics, for the most part, but they have done some cheap things in the past, like Siskel ruining the ending of the first Friday the 13th because he felt no one should see the movie and he didn't like the director, or Ebert getting into a fight with people over how he gave a classic like Godfather part 2 3 stars while giving the abysmal Godfather part 3, 3 1/2 stars, using an argument that he doesn't care if he's consistent in how he reviews movies. He's also given movies like Anaconda 3 1/2 stars, yes a higher rating than Godfather 2, while giving standing classics like Die Hard, Blue Velvet, and The Usual Suspects all under 2 stars.

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Mannequin 2: On the Move - 13%

The Shadow - 35%

The Phantom - 41%

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Update time since it's over a year!

 

Gods of Egypt - 16%

Stealth - 13%

Vampire Academy - 12%

Dreamcatcher - 30%

Gamer - 28%

Vampire's Kiss - 61%

The Lawnmower Man - 36%

Grease 2 - 32%

Escape from L.A. - 53%

Highlander II: The Quickening - 0%

Airborne - 29%

xXx: Return of Xander Cage - 44%

Surf Ninjas - 12%

Body Parts - 40%

Sleepwalkers - 15%

The Lake House - 35%

The Fate of the Furious - 67%

My Stepmother is an Alien - 19%

The Running Man - 63%

The Wraith - 33%

Ninja Terminator - N/A

Timecop - 43%

Chopping Mall - 57%

Hard Ticket to Hawaii - 20%

The Garbage Pail Kids Movie - 0%

Bratz - 9%

Miami Connection - 71%

The Last Dragon - 33%

Virtuosity - 33%

Jason X - 19%

Ultraviolet - 9%

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Coming up for the show:

 

Superman IV: The Quest for Peace - 12%

Freejack - 14%

Second Sight - 0%

Johnny Mnemonic - 13%

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Howling II: Your Sister is a Werewolf - 27%

Rock Star - 52%

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Those two have a history of being contrarian with movies on both negative and positive sides. People have this love affair with them because they weren't snooty film critics, for the most part, but they have done some cheap things in the past, like Siskel ruining the ending of the first Friday the 13th because he felt no one should see the movie and he didn't like the director, or Ebert getting into a fight with people over how he gave a classic like Godfather part 2 3 stars while giving the abysmal Godfather part 3, 3 1/2 stars, using an argument that he doesn't care if he's consistent in how he reviews movies. He's also given movies like Anaconda 3 1/2 stars, yes a higher rating than Godfather 2, while giving standing classics like Die Hard, Blue Velvet, and The Usual Suspects all under 2 stars.

 

They also made Kingpin seem like the funniest movie of all time (they couldn't stop smiling and giggling while reviewing it), so much so that my family decided we had to go IMMEDIATELY to the theater and see it that morning. It wasn't awful, it wasn't great... it was just fine, which was somehow the most disappointing it could have been.

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Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets - 49%

Ladybugs - 14%

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Adore - 32%

Geostorm - 13%

Beautiful Creatures - 46%

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Spiderman 3 - 63% (actually shocked by this one)

 

TBH, I'm more shocked that it was even considered HDTGM material. The movies that they do are usually either notoriously bad or somewhat obscure and terrible, and this one was way more "just not as good as the previous ones in the series, mostly hated by the kind of people who are still whining online nonstop about the Star Wars prequels ruined their childhoods." It's like they confused "notoriously bad" with "notoriously hated."

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TBH, I'm more shocked that it was even considered HDTGM material. The movies that they do are usually either notoriously bad or somewhat obscure and terrible, and this one was way more "just not as good as the previous ones in the series, mostly hated by the kind of people who are still whining online nonstop about the Star Wars prequels ruined their childhoods." It's like they confused "notoriously bad" with "notoriously hated."

You're right... not crazy enough or notoriously bad at all....

 

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One thing in general that screws up RT scores for HDTGM movies is reviewers giving them scores for being so bad they're good. The Room, for instance, has at least one of these on it's main RT page alone.

 

Oh, it definitely go the other way too, as there were certainly things about the highest-rated films that have nearly perfect scores that critics were against at the time. "Godfather" , for instance was pretty violent for its day and also glorified that culture in a way that hadn't been done before.

 

A thing that RT does that I think is pretty cool is that they'll go back through newspaper archives (presumably only ones posted online), and find contemporary reviews for classic movies, even if they're 70 years old. Often these include almost the only negative ones the site has for the classics.

 

Also, only classic ones tend to really get this treatment, so don't expect to find a lot of contemporary reviews for Hard Ticket to Hawaii or anything.

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One thing in general that screws up RT scores for HDTGM movies is reviewers giving them scores for being so bad they're good. The Room, for instance, has at least one of these on it's main RT page alone.

 

This seems especially true for movies that are ONLY watched for their glorious badness, so there is a self-selected audience more likely to enjoy it for being a bad movie. Miami Connection seems like the most obvious example here.

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You're right... not crazy enough or notoriously bad at all....

 

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I swear, I don’t remember a specific moment from that movie, just that certain things happened. I think Spider-Man 3 was saved from being notoriously bad by being notoriously forgettable. Nothing seemed to work, and it did it in such a perfect balance that it wasn’t bad ENOUGH in any particular direction. It was no Batman & Robin when it came to franchise killers!

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This seems especially true for movies that are ONLY watched for their glorious badness, so there is a self-selected audience more likely to enjoy it for being a bad movie. Miami Connection seems like the most obvious example here.

 

Yeah, another thing that comes to mind is how they couldn't do a "Second Opinions" segment for Gymkata because Paul couldn't find a single five-star Amazon review of it from someone that didn't love it unironically.

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Body Rock - N/A

Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow - 71%

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Rad - 0%

Blues Brothers 2000 - 46%

Striptease - 12%

The Hurricane Heist - 45%

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Yes, Giorgio - N/A

Beastly - 20%

Look Who's Talking Too - 14%

The Cat in the Hat - 10%

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2 hours ago, SlidePocket said:

The Meg - 49%

A Night in Heaven - N/A

Is The Meg the first movie they've announced before it was released?

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24 minutes ago, grudlian. said:

Is The Meg the first movie they've announced before it was released?

Probably, though I think one of the Fast and Furious sequels was also among them.

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