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EPISODE 123 - Lifeforce


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#1 July Diaz

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 02:04 PM

Hello people of space! Beware of space vampires that will french kiss the blood out of you. Lennon Parham of Playing House and WOMP IT UP! joins Paul and Jason this week to talk all about sexy vampires in the 1985 film Lifeforce. They cover everything from Patrick Stewart being hypnotized, the news reporter of an "evil star," and the best & worst boobs in HDTGM history.

Check out Blake Harris’ Oral History of Lifeforce over at www.slashfilm.com!

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 02:58 PM

The etymology of disaster is based on ill-starred. It's not exactly what they said in the movie, but described as a calamity derived from an unfavorable position of a star or planet.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 03:39 PM

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got the force sucked right out of me waiting for this one.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 03:52 PM

That thing with killing vampires with metal shafts appears to be a British thing, because the same idea appears in an episode of the old doctor who called State of Decay, part of the E-space trilogy.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 05:36 PM

How dare you make fun on the british space agency paul..

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 06:05 PM

Not to be confused by the Canadian space agency.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 06:34 PM

Lennon! Hoping to hear some Listler style music drops in this ep.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 06:35 PM

First, the artificial gravity they mentioned is a real thing. Using acceleration, you can simulate gravity.

Second, per Lennon's question about nudity, I found this. Probably one of those movies that you can't find anywhere though.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 06:53 PM

View Postjarrycanada, on 14 November 2015 - 06:05 PM, said:

Not to be confused by the Canadian space agency.

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Or the Canadian Agency for Space Exploration:
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Posted 14 November 2015 - 07:53 PM

Time for my semi-regular contribution to the comments with

How Did This Get Named?

This one is pretty straight forward actually and a bit more catchier if you ask me. In Japan Lifeforce is called スペースバンパイア(Supesubanpaia) which if you sound it out is "Space Vampire" which if you read the oral history was the original title anyway.

Additionally there is one more interesting thing I think about the Japanese version. There was some discussion in the episode over future Mrs. Mantzoukas's credit as "space girl" but I think her Japanese credit is a bit more telling. In Japanese she's credited as 女形バンパイア(onnagata banpaia) which can be read to mean "Female form vampire". The interesting part is that the term 女形 was used in kabuki to denote a male actor in a female role as women are not allowed to perform kabuki. So in a sense they acknowledge that the vampire is not really female but rather some creature possibly male or otherwise posing as female.
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Posted 14 November 2015 - 08:44 PM

I'll have more to add later, but as I sit here closing up at my movie theater job, I just wanted to throw in a quick "Fandango can go fuck itself". Great episode so far though!
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Posted 14 November 2015 - 09:51 PM

Can someone please Photoshop a picture of a cereal box with the name of it being "Shriveled Raisin Tits"? Jason mentioned it at about 9:13 and I cannot get the image out of my head.
Neither can I not hear that being said to the tune of the old school 80's "Kellogg's Honey Smacks" jingle:


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Posted 14 November 2015 - 09:54 PM

I am very glad the guys brought up the reactions. My thought while watching the movie was that (conservatively) 15% of the movie's running time was made up of non-verbal reaction shots.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 10:06 PM

The word is definitely glamour! And the idea of a glamour isn't specific to vampires; it's pretty prevalent in fairy folklore and literature. The Craft also displays some glamouring which ends up being kind of plot relevant. I was a little surprised at the confusion over glamouring in this episode, especially when Lennon says that's just a Twilight thing. She later referenced something that happens several seasons deep into True Blood - a vampire series that consistently portrays glamouring, starting from episode one.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 10:07 PM

View PostSevenDollarsWorthofHoobastank, on 14 November 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

Can someone please Photoshop a picture of a cereal box with the name of it being "Shriveled Raisin Tits"? Jason mentioned it at about 9:13 and I cannot get the image out of my head.
Neither can I not hear that being said to the tune of the old school 80's "Kellogg's Honey Smacks" jingle:


Remember when we were kids they would have a commercial like this would come on and it would have at the end, it's a part of this nutritional breakfast! And they would show all this other stuff with along the cereal like oranges and apple juice and milk, toast. like you're going to eat all of that stuff along with the friggin cereal.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 10:09 PM

Uhhhhh....has an ep ever ben released on a Saturday?

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 10:09 PM

I'd say my biggest problem with this movie which they didn't talk about is that because the plot is so incomprehensible there is A LOT of exposition. That maybe wouldn't be so bad if most of it wasn't coming out of the mouth of the movie's worst actor. I thought Carlsen was worse than Caine. Although I won't fight anyone over that.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 10:16 PM

And now to turn the criticism to Paul himself for a second. June couldn't make the episode because she was filming. Check. But that is also why the episode dropped late? This is Lifeforce level reasoning.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 10:20 PM

View Postjarrycanada, on 14 November 2015 - 10:07 PM, said:

Remember when we were kids they would have a commercial like this on and it would have at the end, it's a part of this nutritional breakfast! And they would show all this other stuff with along the cereal like oranges and apple juice and milk, toast. like you're going to eat all of that stuff along with the friggin cereal.


Good point! I could hardly ever finish a single bowl of cereal. And why would you also want an EXTRA glass of milk, to go along with apple or orange juice? I think that would give you serious bubble guts.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 11:40 PM

View PostChunkStyle, on 14 November 2015 - 10:09 PM, said:

I'd say my biggest problem with this movie which they didn't talk about is that because the plot is so incomprehensible there is A LOT of exposition. That maybe wouldn't be so bad if most of it wasn't coming out of the mouth of the movie's worst actor. I thought Carlsen was worse than Caine. Although I won't fight anyone over that.

The biggest problem I had was Carlsen never giving all the information at once though. There was so much exposition and Carlsen kept playing the pronoun game, inciting Caine to continue asking questions. The scene in the helicopter was by far the worst example of it. I agree there was a lot of exposition but it was also broken up into separate chunks throughout the movie.

For the sake of argument, let's say that Carlsen was only getting bits and pieces as the bond between him and Space Elvira grew stronger. He was still keeping it to himself up until he was explicitly asked by Caine if he had any clues.

I think that Space Elvira was using Carlsen similar to Dracula using Lucy. She was giving him information telepathically so that they were always 2 steps behind her, because she needed him at the end of the movie. It fits in with the idea that they showed up to Earth already and that is how we incorporated vampires into our mythology. Dracula also used glamours and shapeshifted so it all fits. That's my theory anyways.

On a separate note: the revelation that Space Elvira's pubic hair received studio notes is probably the most upsetting thing they've talked about recently.