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Episode 136 - Hell Comes to Frogtown: LIVE!


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Posted 12 May 2016 - 11:17 PM

HDTGM All-Stars Natasha Leggero and Moshe Kasher join Paul and Jason to discuss the 1988 cult film Hell Comes to Frogtown starring professional wrestler "Rowdy" Roddy Piper. Recorded LIVE from the world famous Largo at the Coronet in Los Angeles, they'll discuss the similarities to Mad Max: Fury Road, the camouflaged bikini scene, frog strippers, and the Dance of the Three Snakes. Plus, a real veterinarian from the audience answers the question of the night: "Do frogs have 3 dicks?" Don’t forget to check out Blake Harris' Oral History of Hell Comes to Frogtown over at www.slashfilm.com!

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 02:03 AM

They Live? F those people. They Live is GREAT.

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 03:30 AM

And for the reboot, Rob " The Gronk " Gronkowsky as Sam Hell ( Rob Hell? ), and Judith Light ( in character as Angela ) as Spangle. Or Angela. Or Spangela.

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 03:58 AM

I know I have posted this picture on Earwolf before, but since we are discussing Hell Comes to Frogtown and this might be the only image of me that doesn't make me cringe, I thought it was worth re-posting. Also, because I <3 Rowdy Roddy Piper forever. They Live is on AFI's list of 100 Greatest Movies, right? Between Casablanca and Gone With the Wind?
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Posted 13 May 2016 - 04:09 AM

View PostQuasar Sniffer, on 13 May 2016 - 03:58 AM, said:

I know I have posted this picture on Earwolf before, but since we are discussing Hell Comes to Frogtown and this might be the only image of me that doesn't make me cringe, I thought it was worth re-posting. Also, because I &lt;3 Rowdy Roddy Piper forever. They Live is on AFI's list of 100 Greatest Movies, right? Between Casablanca and Gone With the Wind?
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Which one are you? <snigger>

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 04:37 AM

Ok, I just watched the movie a second time (which wasn't fun at all), but this time I listened to the audio commentary by director Donald G. Jackson and script writer Randall Frakes. And they shared some nice information about the movie. And I want to share some of it with you guys.

The idea for frogtown came to Donald G. Jackson during the shooting of the last scene of his movie "Rollerblade". Wile on the set he "turned around and somebody [...] had spray-painted on a brick wall the name "Frogtown". And I turned to the actors I was working with and said: 'You know what? That's a sign. That's our next movie: Frogtown.'"

The script was written in under a week due to a bet. The director told the scriptwriter (Randall Frakes), that he'll get 500 extra Dollars if he can write the script in under a week. He finished it in 6 days which explains a lot.

The director always thought of Hell Comes to Frogtown as a franchise. He wanted comic books, toys, a tv-series "all the things that 'Turtles' later get". Imagine a franchise based on a rapist. Sounds promising.

Some raunchiness of the script had to go, because over time too many producers where involved, and they all wanted to change parts of the script. So a lot of nudity was cut from the script and even the dance for the three snakes was shortened. Bergman improvised the dance (which is kinda obvious) and even got a bit more further and be more erotic but was cut due to executives.

Jackson and Frakes wanted Pam Grier to play Centinella (and she was interested in the part) but the executives producers thought "an interracial love scene might hurt businesses".

In the early "vision" it was more like a martial arts movie with fight scenes with wires, swords and samurai-inspired costumes but the executives just didn't like it.

"I really wanted it to be a samurai spaghetti western"
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The strange sexist vibe of the movie, might be the fault (or the intention) of writer Randall Frakes, who wanted it to be a pro-feminist and simultaneously a pro-chauvinist movie.

Jackson and Frakes share another interesting fact, how their vision of the movie got pushed back. The main villain Toady should have had not only three dicks but also four arms. And even though the costumes where already designed, one executive said, it would be to expensive to pay the extra puppeteers. The writer got extremely angry about this, because the executives already changed too much. The same executive asked one day: "Could we do the movie without any frogs?" Anyway, after writer Frakes wrote a letter to all executives he officially was no longer part of the project and director Jackson was threatened that he would be next.

ECR meant "electronic control ring" but was originally written as "electronic cock ring".

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:01 AM

When the apparently feral woman was totally normal after a night with Rowdy Roddy I could only think of the song "I Heal With My Steel" from Earwolf family member and HDTGM alum Howard Kremer.




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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:24 AM

I'm glad Ronda Rousey was brought up when they were discussing Roddy Piper's "Rowdy" nickname, because Ronda Rousey actually asked Piper's permission to use it, as they were both trained by "Judo" Gene LeBell.

LeBell trained Roddy in Judo and Pro Wrestling. He later bestowed the "Rowdy" name onto him when Piper wrestled for his NWA Hollywood Wrestling promotion as the top heel character, where Andy Kaufman was a frequent attendee for the shows, and would use Piper's promos as inspiration. One such example was when Piper was feuding with the Guerrero family, and as a way of apology to them and the Mexican people, he would play the Mexican national anthem on the bagpipes... and then performed a rendition of "La Cucaracha", inciting a riot in the arena. Kaufman would use some of Piper's comments and bits on stage, and during his own wrestling career in Memphis.

Later, LeBell trained Ronda Rousey (a longtime Pro-Wrestling fan), and she asked Roddy for permission to carry the "Rowdy" nickname as a tribute to him after LeBell introduced the two. Rousey then paid tribute to Piper in her fight with Beth Correira which came shortly after Piper passed away

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:24 AM

Great episode!

While I have no desire to actually re-watch this movie to catch when and which character said it, did anyone else catch that in the universe of this movie there also appears to be a town called either "Eagleton" or "Eagletown?" Does that mean that there is another place in this movie filled with anthropomorphic eagles? It seems to me that the logical sequel in the "Hell comes to..." franchise should have taken place there. If nothing else, it would have given Sam the Eagle an opportunity to finally get out from Kermit the Frog's shadow and lead a movie where "Rowdy" Roddy Piper attempts to steal-fuck a number of concubines from his formidable Aerial Fortress.

Where's my Hell Comes to Frogtown/ Muppets crossover, motherfuckers?!?

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And, not for nothing, but eagles--like frogs--also have cloacae, so it would at least fit with the total disregard for animal anatomy exhibited in this movie.
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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:34 AM

Sandahl "Do You Want To Live Forever" Bergman deserved better than this movie. Hopefully the coffee on set was good.

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:40 AM

Roddy was a national treasure. RIP Maniac

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:41 AM

When Paul's ad for The Movement started for a second I thought he was advertising the Nathan For You version.

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:43 AM

Way to go female audience members! Especially the infinity scarf knitter--you go girl!

I'm not certain as I'm not an LA person, but was the final fight with Tody shot at Vasquez Rocks or "Kirk's Rocks," i.e. the famous rock formation where Kirk fought the green monster dude in the original Star Trek? I think it was, but it's not on Wikipedia. If not, it looked very similar and I think it was an intentional reference, with our hero fighting a green monster and all.

This location has been used in dozens of movies and TV shows: Blazing Saddles, Dante's Peak, Murder She Wrote and MacGyver...and I think most cleverly, we can all agree, in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey.

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:44 AM

View PostTimbosteron, on 13 May 2016 - 04:37 AM, said:

ECU meant "electronic control ring" but was originally written as "electronic cock ring". Don't ask why it isn't called ECR.


That's weird, because in the end credits, it's listed as the ECR.

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:50 AM

As for the longest career in Pro-Wrestling, while there isn't really an official record for it, as there are independent shows all over the world, there are wrestlers who have had over 50 year careers, like Lou Thesz (who wrestled for 58 years), Terry Funk (50 years), and Abdullah the Butcher and Johnny Saint both made their debut in 1958, and are still wrestling today

But many believe that Gypsy Joe has had the longest Pro-Wrestling career, which started in 1951 and retired in 2011, a full 60 years. What made Gypsy Joe's career all the more remarkable was that, much like Abdullah the Butcher, most of his career was contested in "Hardcore" matches, which involved him getting hit with weapons, wrestling in barbed wire, thumbtacks and broken glass, and generally getting the shit kicked out of him.

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:53 AM

View PostChunkStyle, on 13 May 2016 - 05:34 AM, said:

Sandahl "Do You Want To Live Forever" Bergman deserved better than this movie. Hopefully the coffee on set was good.


Sandahl Bergman is the instructor from this 1989 work out video, The Firm, Vol. 3:

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=sYUthbTiA1M

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:55 AM

Cec Verrell was in Runaway?!

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:57 AM

View PostJillybean, on 13 May 2016 - 05:53 AM, said:

Sandahl Bergman is the instructor from this 1989 work out video, The Firm, Vol. 3:

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=sYUthbTiA1M


Audition tape for Perfect 2. I am assuming the producers couldn't get Travolta and Curtis back for the sequel.

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 06:10 AM

As we are told, each side of this war is "desperate to rebuild and rearm" and that is why they need Sam Hell to impregnate as many women as possible. But even if he pulls it off, when is the govt expecting these offspring to start fighting? Is the unmade sequel some type of Frogtown/Super Babies crossover film? And if the legal age limit didn't change for 18... that means the govt is expecting this war to last close to two decades before these kids can start helping out.

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 06:12 AM

I think this movie could make a great example entry in the slang dictionary for "Has No Chill". The Provisional Govt wants to repopulate their country for the express reason of continuing to fight a war that has already essentially destroyed the planet. No Chill.