Cameron H., on 22 March 2017 - 07:39 AM, said:
I think you may be the one taking them too seriously. I dont think, "Wow, this Thor movie is teaching me so much about fraternal love." Like F&F, I just watch it for the spectacle--just like I would for a Star Wars, Indiana Jones, or Jurassic Park movie. I could easily make the same argument and say, "Ugh! These F&F movies are all about family. I get it! Lighten up and drive a car off a mountain." It's all just melodrama.
So again, if you'd rather not watch them, that's fine. I get it. But they're essentially the same thing.
ETA: since you edited in another argument...the characters in F&F movies have been established for nearly 20 years. I'm sure there was an "origin story" in Tokyo Drift when they introduced new characters. It's not like the Winter Soldier or "Civil War" are "origin stories. They are a heightening of the same character. Which is exactly what you said you like about the F&F movies. Again. No different.
No. But they are still making stuff like Doctor Strange, which is the same, boring origin story we've seen over and over. And while I liked Winter Soldier
, Civil War
and Age of Ultron
were self-important nonsense. Fast and Furious is a silly franchise and one that delights in its own silliness.
tomspanks, on 22 March 2017 - 07:45 AM, said:
It's interesting you call out Marvel specifically, when it's DC that I feel take themselves way too seriously. To me, Marvel movies are all fun and fights (and punching things).
I call out Marvel specifically because every time a new Marvel property comes out, everyone here goes on and on about it (e.g., the ongoing six-page tangent about Iron Fist
). But I do think the Marvel movies take themselves too seriously in terms of building their universe and things like that. They want to pretend like they're doing something different, when they're really just making the same stuff over and over. It's basically the peak tv model applied to cinema.
Again, I'm not arguing these as High Art, but I don't understand how people can fall all over Marvel in one thread and then rush each other to brag about how few F&F movies they've seen in another, when I consider those to basically be the linchpin of this podcast.