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Episode 159 - Sleepwalkers


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Posted 30 March 2017 - 11:08 PM

Lauren Lapkus (With Special Guest Lauren Lapkus, Wild Horses, Crashing) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 1992 Stephen King horror film Sleepwalkers. They’ll talk about whether Charles Brady and Mary are really mother and son or just creatures, adult people acting terrified of tiny cats, Stephen King’s cameo, and much more.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 01:34 AM

A non-live show AND an amazing guest??? Its an end of March miracle, you guys! :D

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 03:26 AM

i too would have paid €1404.17* to watch this with June






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Posted 31 March 2017 - 03:28 AM

Six and a half minutes in and June, my favorite host, is quoting Bianca Del Rio from my favorite tv show: RuPaul's Drag Race

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BEST EPISODE EVER!!

Also, June's mental gymnastics to deny the incestuous nature of the mother/son relationship? And Jason's commitment to proving her wrong?

DOUBLE BEST EPISODE EVER!!

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 03:31 AM

i loved that second opinions theme. great work hannah


also, there's a cinefamily reunion for this on youtube:



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Posted 31 March 2017 - 04:21 AM

First off, the new opening and second opinions themes? Terrific!

Second, I am super-pleased that Lauren finally is on this show. I'd love to know why it took this long!

And this is totally this year's Monkey Shines for June.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 05:46 AM

I think part of what makes the world building in this movie so poor is that King seems to want the sleepwalkers to embody both the vampire myth and also just be their own weird species. There definitely seems to be a sire type relationship between the mom and the son like she created him the way vampires do. Because they seem to be locked into an emotional age that matches their human form. But I think we're also supposed to assume that sleepwalkers are "naturally occurring" and we're supposed to feel some sympathy for them up until Charlie takes his villain turn.

My biggest question is how have they made it this long (presumably hundreds or thousands of years) when they are this stupid? Charlie presents transcripts that are clever fakes to get into high school. Except he makes them from a town that doesn't exist? And when Charlie is having his joy ride run from Andy and Clovis he attempts to run down children getting off a school bus as a cherry on top. The sleepwalkers are all gone now because Darwin was right.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:10 AM

View PostA Gentle Soul, on 31 March 2017 - 03:28 AM, said:

Six and a half minutes in and June, my favorite host, is quoting Bianca Del Rio from my favorite tv show: RuPaul's Drag Race

I'd like to personally welcome you to the boards because if you love otters and Bianca Del Rio then you are exactly the kind of person we need here!!! Welcome!!!

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:14 AM

LAUREEEEENNNNN!!

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She's another one I had to double-check to be sure she wasn't on a previous episode because it seems CRAZY that it's taken this long for her to be on.
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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:19 AM

View Posttaylor anne photo, on 31 March 2017 - 06:10 AM, said:


I'd like to personally welcome you to the boards because if you love otters and Bianca Del Rio then you are exactly the kind of person we need here!!! Welcome!!!


But unfortunately, by Forum Law, that does mean someone has to go.

CakeBug, we'd like to have a word with you...

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:19 AM

there was alot of familiar faces in this. i missed ferris bueller's parents but it made me happy when paul said it.

and it took me way too long to realize alice krige was the borg queen


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:30 AM

View PostCameron H., on 31 March 2017 - 06:19 AM, said:

CakeBug, we'd like to have a word with you...


Oh. But... Oh. Okay.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:31 AM

As a devout lover of horror movies I can easily say that I have never seen a final girl do so much to act against her own safety and the safety of others. After the sheriff has broken into the house and shot the mom, the female lead is literally dragging her feet and grabbing onto everything her hand touches in order for her and the sheriff to be caught more easily. The only thing that she didn't do was grab his sidearm and shoot herself in the leg.

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I apologize if this is covered in the episodes but I usually do my first comment on an episode before I hear it while I have thoughts on the film fresh in my head. Was the creative writing teacher intimating that he wanted to fuck the son in order to remain silent that he had falsified his transcripts? It seemed like that was what he was about to say after the kid said he had no money, but then his hand was ripped off.

Also did you guys realize that the Fugees sampled part of the end credit song by Enya for their version of "Ready or Not?" I thought I was losing my mind when I heard that humming as the cats ran around a burning corpse but when I looked it up there it was. So at least one good thing came from this horrible movie and we have an amazing song with a fantastic backing track.
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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:34 AM

I totally thought Charles Grady was going to be a sympathetic character in this. He kind of seems like he's a kid who really just wants to settle down, make friends, have a girlfriend; basically just the normal teenage experience. Then he basically goes Freddie Krueger on her in the cemetery and starts cracking jokes, "Cop Kabob!" Weird movie. The dance scene at the end was actually really terrifying though. I vaguely remember seeing it on TV as a child and was pretty traumatized.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:35 AM

@ Ryan Sz, I do the same thing. I should probably listen but I totally got the same impression that the teacher wanted to blackmail the kid for sex. And I also kept waiting for Lauren Hill's vocals to kick in.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:39 AM

My favorite movie character of all time Clovis the cat. Great ep!

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:43 AM

View PostRyan Sz, on 31 March 2017 - 06:31 AM, said:

Also did you guys realize that the Fugees sampled part of the end credit song by Enya for their version of "Ready or Not?" I thought I was losing my mind when I heard that humming as the cats ran around a burning corpse but when I looked it up there it was. So at least one good thing came from this horrible movie and we have an amazing song with a fantastic backing track.


That's enya's "boadicea". Pretty sure it's from the 80's. It was used throughout the movie. I started to think they were trying to get the same effect from it as Mike Oldfield's "Tubular Bells" in the exorcist. It was also used in a very memorable opening to an episode of criminal minds ... also involving fire

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:47 AM

This movie was totally a love letter to cats I feel like. They're the undisputed heroes of this film. They really get a bad wrap in life and I, as a cat owner, am kind of tired of hearing it form Dog people. This movie posits that it's basically the mission of all cats to protect virgin women from shape-shifting werepeople. That's right, while they spend most of their days shitting in a box, eating, and lounging on the floor within that one sunbeam that penetrates your kitchen window, they are always on the job, protecting us from Sleepwalkers.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:53 AM

View Postdickhoff3, on 31 March 2017 - 06:34 AM, said:

Then he basically goes Freddie Krueger on her in the cemetery and starts cracking jokes, "Cop Kabob!" Weird movie. The dance scene at the end was actually really terrifying though. I vaguely remember seeing it on TV as a child and was pretty traumatized.


Anyone else get a "The Evil Dead" vibe about the cemetery scene? ... the over the top acting, the cheesy one liners, the make up and the editing .. this was a weird movie and I really had fun watching it ... except the mother/son sex stuff.

June's reaction to it is amazing. She must be the only person who watched this and came up with a logical way of getting around the creepiness of that relationship. And June's theory does make sense but I don't think coked up Stephen King went that deep. He just went for the creep

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:54 AM

It's weird that the definition for Sleepwalker at the top of the movie says that they are "Nomadic" when (according to Charles Brady's short story anyway) the reason they move around so much is because they are chased out of town. Wouldn't that be like saying, "My wife discovered the torrid affair I was having with the pool boy so I immigrated to the La Quinta Inn?"
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