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#1 Cameron H.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 01:32 AM

I always suspected that was what was going on inside a football team's locker room, we watched....

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 03:11 AM

I know I said this on letterboxd but I have to say it again. Fuck you Dom DeLuise!

You have this guy who is pretending to be Texan, wears a girdle to hide his gut, stuffs his pants, and wears a wig and none of that comes back in anyway to hurt him. The scene is funny with the parallel of what he's preaching and what he's doing, but I was hoping that Burt Reynolds would use that some how to expose him and discredit him in some way. Nope. He takes off his wig and punches him, yet he goes on to be successful while being a big phony. It just doesn't seem right.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 04:11 AM

Kind of bouncing off of what Cam just brought up, I enjoyed how this movie illustrated how life is often unfair and how it's the fleeting things in life that make it bearable. It's sex, or a song, or a friend, or a smoke, or a drink, or threatening the pompous television watch dog on national television. It's those moments that make the injustices in the world tolerable.

I like how it doesn't necessarily have a happy ending, but they themselves can still live happily ever after.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 04:35 AM

View PostCameron H., on 11 September 2017 - 04:11 AM, said:

Kind of bouncing off of what Cam just brought up, I enjoyed how this movie illustrated how life is often unfair and how it's the fleeting things in life that make it bearable. It's sex, or a song, or a friend, or a smoke, or a drink, or threatening the pompous television watch dog on national television. It's those moments that make the injustices in the world tolerable.

I like how it doesn't necessarily have a happy ending, but they themselves can still live happily ever after.

I agree. The movie surprisingly had a lot of interesting things to say. Like how this hundred year old institution of this small town was never a problem and people never minded until it got attention. Or how the people in the town knew what was going on but were okay with it for the good it was doing the community and it was the outsiders, the Houstonians, that were the ones against it and wanting to shut it down. The accurate depiction of politics in a cynical way of just blowing in the wing and siding with whatever curries them favor. The power of the medium of television and the people on it. There is a lot of little like things like this that the movie just nailed about life as well.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 05:46 AM

View PostCam Bert, on 11 September 2017 - 03:11 AM, said:

I know I said this on letterboxd but I have to say it again. Fuck you Dom DeLuise!

You have this guy who is pretending to be Texan, wears a girdle to hide his gut, stuffs his pants, and wears a wig and none of that comes back in anyway to hurt him. The scene is funny with the parallel of what he's preaching and what he's doing, but I was hoping that Burt Reynolds would use that some how to expose him and discredit him in some way. Nope. He takes off his wig and punches him, yet he goes on to be successful while being a big phony. It just doesn't seem right.


I agree that it would have been more satisfying to see Thorpe get his comeuppance, but maybe the filmmakers decided to stay closer to what happened to the real tv reporter, Marvin Zindler, who helped close down the real Chicken Ranch? From Wikipedia:

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The closing [of the Chicken Ranch] did not go well with the sheriff of Fayette County, Jim T. Flournoy, who later attacked Zindler in a fight that left Zindler with two fractured ribs, along with a snatched toupee. Reportedly, Flournoy waved the hairpiece in the air as if it were a prized enemy scalp and threw it in the street.


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 05:54 AM

View Posttomspanks, on 11 September 2017 - 05:46 AM, said:



I agree that it would have been more satisfying to see Thorpe get his comeuppance, but maybe the filmmakers decided to stay closer to what happened to the real tv reporter, Marvin Zindler, who helped close down the real Chicken Ranch? From Wikipedia:


Wow! I didn't know this was based on a true story.

BTW - Here's my hot take on brothels: two consenting adults can have sex for whatever reason they like. A person can want to have sex with someone because they love them, or because of the way they cut their hair, the way they walk, the cereal they eat, or for an exchange of goods and services. As long as both parties agree on the terms, who gives a fuck? Lord knows that brothels are a healthier and safer alternative for everyone involved.

I'm really glad this movie agrees with me :)
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:12 AM

View Posttomspanks, on 11 September 2017 - 05:46 AM, said:


I agree that it would have been more satisfying to see Thorpe get his comeuppance, but maybe the filmmakers decided to stay closer to what happened to the real tv reporter, Marvin Zindler, who helped close down the real Chicken Ranch? From Wikipedia:

Slime in the ice machine!

I am obsessed with the celebrity status of local news people. I would love to see a documentary about this. Basically the idea that a person can be famous and respected then drive 20 minutes away and nobody knows or cares who they are is insane to me. Anyway, I use to work with a guy from Houston. We were talking about this one day and he told me about this guy. Apparently his catch phrase was "slime in the ice machine" and had a jingle and everything. I had no idea that he was the inspiration for this story and that's based on a real incident. Wow! I think I like this movie more now.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:22 AM

@Cams, have fun going down the Wiki black hole for the Chicken Ranch. So much of the story is true. I read that there was a tradition of A&M freshmen visiting the Chicken Ranch as an "initiation," so the whole football team story isn't so farfetched.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:23 AM

View PostCam Bert, on 11 September 2017 - 06:12 AM, said:

Slime in the ice machine!

I am obsessed with the celebrity status of local news people. I would love to see a documentary about this. Basically the idea that a person can be famous and respected then drive 20 minutes away and nobody knows or cares who they are is insane to me. Anyway, I use to work with a guy from Houston. We were talking about this one day and he told me about this guy. Apparently his catch phrase was "slime in the ice machine" and had a jingle and everything. I had no idea that he was the inspiration for this story and that's based on a real incident. Wow! I think I like this movie more now.


Lorelei: "Pardon please, is this the boat to Europe, France?"
Steward: "To where?"
Dorothy: "Not Europe, France, honey. France is in Europe."
Lorelei: "Well who said it wasn't?"
Dorothy: "Well, you wouldn't say 'Is this the way to North America, Mexico', would you?"
Lorelei: "If that's where I wanted to go I would."
Dorothy: "The dealer passes."
-- Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:28 AM

View Posttomspanks, on 11 September 2017 - 06:22 AM, said:

@Cams, have fun going down the Wiki black hole for the Chicken Ranch. So much of the story is true. I read that there was a tradition of A&M freshmen visiting the Chicken Ranch as an "initiation," so the whole football team story isn't so farfetched.

You know I will. Speaking of A&M, what is an Aggie?
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:33 AM

View PostCam Bert, on 11 September 2017 - 06:28 AM, said:

You know I will. Speaking of A&M, what is an Aggie?

A&M is an agricultural school. From wiki: "The nickname "Aggie" was once common at land-grant or "Ag" (agriculture) schools in many states." (A&M was started as The Agricultural and Mechanical School of Texas.)

However, Texas A&M needs to work on their hurricane preparation. This was from 2005 (I believe).
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Lorelei: "Pardon please, is this the boat to Europe, France?"
Steward: "To where?"
Dorothy: "Not Europe, France, honey. France is in Europe."
Lorelei: "Well who said it wasn't?"
Dorothy: "Well, you wouldn't say 'Is this the way to North America, Mexico', would you?"
Lorelei: "If that's where I wanted to go I would."
Dorothy: "The dealer passes."
-- Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:35 AM

I'm not sure I want to know what "Gig'Em" means, though.
Lorelei: "Pardon please, is this the boat to Europe, France?"
Steward: "To where?"
Dorothy: "Not Europe, France, honey. France is in Europe."
Lorelei: "Well who said it wasn't?"
Dorothy: "Well, you wouldn't say 'Is this the way to North America, Mexico', would you?"
Lorelei: "If that's where I wanted to go I would."
Dorothy: "The dealer passes."
-- Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:41 AM

View PostCameron H., on 11 September 2017 - 05:54 AM, said:

BTW - Here's my hot take on brothels: two consenting adults can have sex for whatever reason they like. A person can want to have sex with someone because they love them, or because of the way they cut their hair, the way they walk, the cereal they eat, or for an exchange of goods and services. As long as both parties agree on the terms, who gives a fuck? Lord knows that brothels are a healthier and safer alternative for everyone involved.


Is it a hot take though? I also agree with the above. Some go as far to say that brothels provide a safer environment for voluntary sex workers, as they don't have to resort to solicitation on the streets or have to rely on pimps.

I was a bit nervous about this movie pick at first. I didn't know much about it going in (except for the Simpsons reference) and I was afraid it might be sexist or mean. But I liked it more than I expected to, mostly due to Dolly Parton. She was so charming even when she was just standing around or writing checks with her pink feather pen. I couldn't take my eyes off her whenever she was on screen. And God bless for HD, for without it I wouldn't have been able to make out the glitter on Dolly's cleavage.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:55 AM

View Posttomspanks, on 11 September 2017 - 06:41 AM, said:


Is it a hot take though? I also agree with the above. Some go as far to say that brothels provide a safer environment for voluntary sex workers, as they don't have to resort to solicitation on the streets or have to rely on pimps.

I was a bit nervous about this movie pick at first. I didn't know much about it going in (except for the Simpsons reference) and I was afraid it might be sexist or mean. But I liked it more than I expected to, mostly due to Dolly Parton. She was so charming even when she was just standing around or writing checks with her pink feather pen. I couldn't take my eyes off her whenever she was on screen. And God bless for HD, for without it I wouldn't have been able to make out the glitter on Dolly's cleavage.


Maybe it's not a "hot take" exactly. I'm just saying, regulate it and make it safe, that's all. I'm sick of people sticking their "morality" in other people's business. ;) If you don't like it, don't go.

I thought the movie was pretty good. Of the two movies about prostitution we've done this round, this is definitely the superior movie. I was amazed that I already owned two of the songs ("Hard Candy Christmas" and "I Will Always Love You") so that was cool. I also thought Burt was really good. I think I've only see him *star* in a couple of movies - this and Smokey and the Bandit - and I have to say, I get it. Had Harrison Ford turned down Han Solo, I think I would have liked to see Reynolds in that part. He's got the right swagger - although that high pitched, tittering laugh he sometimes does would have to go.
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 07:05 AM

View PostCameron H., on 11 September 2017 - 06:55 AM, said:

He's got the right swagger - although that high pitched, tittering laugh he sometimes does would have to go.


Lorelei: "Pardon please, is this the boat to Europe, France?"
Steward: "To where?"
Dorothy: "Not Europe, France, honey. France is in Europe."
Lorelei: "Well who said it wasn't?"
Dorothy: "Well, you wouldn't say 'Is this the way to North America, Mexico', would you?"
Lorelei: "If that's where I wanted to go I would."
Dorothy: "The dealer passes."
-- Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 07:14 AM

View Posttomspanks, on 11 September 2017 - 06:41 AM, said:


Is it a hot take though? I also agree with the above. Some go as far to say that brothels provide a safer environment for voluntary sex workers, as they don't have to resort to solicitation on the streets or have to rely on pimps.

I was a bit nervous about this movie pick at first. I didn't know much about it going in (except for the Simpsons reference) and I was afraid it might be sexist or mean. But I liked it more than I expected to, mostly due to Dolly Parton. She was so charming even when she was just standing around or writing checks with her pink feather pen. I couldn't take my eyes off her whenever she was on screen. And God bless for HD, for without it I wouldn't have been able to make out the glitter on Dolly's cleavage.

I definitely agree that Dolly made the movie. She took any potentially dark element and made it charming. I wound up watching this in two parts and maybe that hurt things but this wasn't one of my favorites. I'm sure with repeat viewings it would soften my opinion and I'd grow to really like it but first time out was "meh". I kind of saw it as "look how daring we can be! Look how shocking!" I certainly don't remember Jim Nabors ever swearing in any other TV or movie role. I guess maybe a better description would be a paint-by-numbers deal. I will try and read up on the stage musical and what changes were made for the movie. This ran for several years on Broadway so I'm sure I'm in the minority on not caring much for it.

Cameron H. mentioned Smokey and the Bandit and this seems to me like the Bandit transplanted. In Bandit 2 he and Frog have definite relationship troubles caused by his ego and wanting to hold on to glory. I see the sheriff in Whorehouse as Bandit 1 & 2 combined. I didn't believe his turn at the end. I thought he was going to reopen the Chicken Ranch when he said he didn't care what people thought. The ending promoted itself as everyone got what they wanted but the girls certainly didn't and neither did Jewel. (I honestly thought the actress playing Jewel was Esther Rolle from Good Times.)
Lorelei: "Pardon please, is this the boat to Europe, France?"
Steward: "To where?"
Dorothy: "Not Europe, France, honey. France is in Europe."
Lorelei: "Well who said it wasn't?"
Dorothy: "Well, you wouldn't say 'Is this the way to North America, Mexico', would you?"
Lorelei: "If that's where I wanted to go I would."
Dorothy: "The dealer passes."
-- Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 07:17 AM

Oh, yeah! I felt terrible for all the women! How horrible!
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 07:43 AM

View PostCinco DeNio, on 11 September 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:

I honestly thought the actress playing Jewel was Esther Rolle from Good Times.)

I recognized her from Billy Madison, lol



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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:23 AM

I think this was my favorite song in the movie:


Tom: Mark, I loved those licks you were doing.
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Miss Mona: You know, it's always a business doing pleasure with you, Charlie!
The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas (1982)

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:43 AM

View PostCameron H., on 11 September 2017 - 09:23 AM, said:

I think this was my favorite song in the movie:




Think that is my favorite as well.
But my favorite lyric in all the songs is probably "stop that copulation, loveless copulation" in "Texas has a Whorehouse in it" haha