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Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:26 AM

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Second Sight (1989)

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:20 AM

Fun HDTGM and Musical Monday connections in this film. First, one of the class room students was played by Alanna Ubach who we might remember from another high school movie released the same year, Airborne. Second, the Latin teacher was played by Brad Sullivan who was one of the two fathers in The Fantasticks.
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:42 AM

I'm kind of surprised how much I enjoyed this. Maybe even as much as the original. It's kind of silly of you analyze it even a little bit but it's charming enough to bypass all that.

I noticed that James Coburn sounds an awful lot like Edward Herrmann in places.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:54 AM

oh man I can't wait to break this down with you guys. This movie is weird. It's silly. It makes no sense. (like on the fly the totally rearranged their closing number with choreography, rap breaks, new lighting, etc) but it's a lot of fun

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:02 AM

View PostEvRobert, on 02 January 2018 - 06:54 AM, said:

oh man I can't wait to break this down with you guys. This movie is weird. It's silly. It makes no sense. (like on the fly the totally rearranged their closing number with choreography, rap breaks, new lighting, etc) but it's a lot of fun


Was it on the fly? I mean... they were backed by a recorded hip hop version of Ode to Joy.
When they were like “oh no ... this stuffy ass ultra traditional choir is doing our song” I wondered why the hell they were worried... and if they hadn’t planned on a doing an urban/street version in the first place then they were sorely mistaken about their own strength as a choir.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:05 AM

View PostPollyDarton, on 02 January 2018 - 07:02 AM, said:

Was it on the fly? I mean... they were backed by a recorded hip hop version of Ode to Joy.
When they were like “oh no ... this stuffy ass ultra traditional choir is doing our song” I wondered why the hell they were worried... and if they hadn’t planned on a doing an urban/street version in the first place then they were sorely mistaken about their own strength as a choir.


It struck me as being on the fly because a) the stuffy school was doing their song and then Whoopi tells them to get out of their tradtional choral robes (which the community raised money to buy for them. Whatta slap to the face to those that supported them to get there ;) )

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:19 AM

So, I guess you don't need any sort of teaching degree or certification to teach at a Catholic school, is that right?

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:23 AM

View PostEvRobert, on 02 January 2018 - 07:05 AM, said:


It struck me as being on the fly because a) the stuffy school was doing their song and then Whoopi tells them to get out of their tradtional choral robes (which the community raised money to buy for them. Whatta slap to the face to those that supported them to get there ;) )


I think the backflip onto the stage was on the fly, but there were three kids practicing moves when Father Maurice was running through the backstage area. I just think they didn't have any confidence that their 'fun' rendition would be better than the formal one. But I agree about the robes. I always think "what would think performance look like in robes" when I watch the end scene. And laugh that half the guys apparently were carrying their hats with them under their robes.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:26 AM

View Posttomspanks, on 02 January 2018 - 07:19 AM, said:

So, I guess you don't need any sort of teaching degree or certification to teach at a Catholic school, is that right?

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:32 AM

View Posttomspanks, on 02 January 2018 - 07:19 AM, said:

So, I guess you don't need any sort of teaching degree or certification to teach at a Catholic school, is that right?


I don't know about Catholic school, but I have some friends that worked at a private Evangelical Christian school and they don't have to be. It's...weird.

View PostSaraK, on 02 January 2018 - 07:23 AM, said:


I think the backflip onto the stage was on the fly, but there were three kids practicing moves when Father Maurice was running through the backstage area. I just think they didn't have any confidence that their 'fun' rendition would be better than the formal one. But I agree about the robes. I always think "what would think performance look like in robes" when I watch the end scene. And laugh that half the guys apparently were carrying their hats with them under their robes.


hmmm I need to rewatch the last section then, because I don't remember it. I could totally be wrong here, it just has always felt to me like it was done on the fly to show how "hip" the kids are coupled with "take your robes off" line

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:40 AM

My main question is Mr. Crisp's motivation. He figures out that Sister Mary Clarence is a fake, but doesn't want to call to remove the kids from the competition. So I assume he wants to go down to remove HER quietly, but let the kids perform. But once they're down there, he wants to take them out of the competition. What? You could have saved yourself a trip Mr. Crisp! Did he change his mind on the ride down? You risked your life letting Father Thomas drive you down there. (BTW Father Thomas is my favorite of the priests)

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:41 AM

Maybe this is an American thing that I was lost on but at the end when talking about changes to the school Mr. Noodle says that they might even let him teach "the new math." Are there forbidden maths in America?
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:47 AM

View PostSaraK, on 02 January 2018 - 07:40 AM, said:

My main question is Mr. Crisp's motivation. He figures out that Sister Mary Clarence is a fake, but doesn't want to call to remove the kids from the competition. So I assume he wants to go down to remove HER quietly, but let the kids perform. But once they're down there, he wants to take them out of the competition. What? You could have saved yourself a trip Mr. Crisp! Did he change his mind on the ride down? You risked your life letting Father Thomas drive you down there. (BTW Father Thomas is my favorite of the priests)

Not only that but it seems his early retirement is entirely hinged on the school closing. At the end the school is saved so they think he wants to continue working and save more schools when he's been actively asking for early retirement and to close the school down? I think the advisory board just hates him.
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:49 AM

View PostCam Bert, on 02 January 2018 - 07:41 AM, said:

Maybe this is an American thing that I was lost on but at the end when talking about changes to the school Mr. Noodle says that they might even let him teach "the new math." Are there forbidden maths in America?


Mr. Noodle :lol:
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 08:08 AM

View PostCam Bert, on 02 January 2018 - 07:41 AM, said:

Maybe this is an American thing that I was lost on but at the end when talking about changes to the school Mr. Noodle says that they might even let him teach "the new math." Are there forbidden maths in America?

New math, and I'm not 100% on this, was a new method for teaching math. I don't know what was different about it just a supposedly radical departure from how math was taught up to that point. This was also back in the 1950s or 60s because it's something I've heard my parents talk about. So, I've never been sure if "new math" is what has been taught since then or what. Based on what my friends with kids and social media say, math is taught differently than when I was a kid. So, I'm not sure. I've heard "new math" or "they must be using new math" to describe confusing numbers but even that's pretty outdated.

I think that's the joke in the movie though. The school is so outdated that they are finality able to do 30 year old teaching methods.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 08:43 AM

View PostPollyDarton, on 02 January 2018 - 07:02 AM, said:

Was it on the fly? I mean... they were backed by a recorded hip hop version of Ode to Joy.
When they were like “oh no ... this stuffy ass ultra traditional choir is doing our song” I wondered why the hell they were worried... and if they hadn’t planned on a doing an urban/street version in the first place then they were sorely mistaken about their own strength as a choir.

View PostEvRobert, on 02 January 2018 - 07:05 AM, said:

It struck me as being on the fly because a) the stuffy school was doing their song and then Whoopi tells them to get out of their tradtional choral robes (which the community raised money to buy for them. Whatta slap to the face to those that supported them to get there ;) )

That's just the magic of musicals ... anybody or any group can burst into the perfect musical arrangement necessary to humiliate any opponent, "Top That" style. It's like the musical hadouken.

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View Posttomspanks, on 02 January 2018 - 07:19 AM, said:

So, I guess you don't need any sort of teaching degree or certification to teach at a Catholic school, is that right?

View PostEvRobert, on 02 January 2018 - 07:32 AM, said:

I don't know about Catholic school, but I have some friends that worked at a private Evangelical Christian school and they don't have to be. It's...weird.

Private schools can set whatever qualifications they want for their teachers. Most private schools want to set pretty high bars for their teachers because they're all about prestige and reputation, but some private schools exist just to control the curriculum and tailor it for a specific crowd. Religious schools are like that a lot.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 08:45 AM

View Postgrudlian., on 02 January 2018 - 08:08 AM, said:

New math, and I'm not 100% on this, was a new method for teaching math. I don't know what was different about it just a supposedly radical departure from how math was taught up to that point. This was also back in the 1950s or 60s because it's something I've heard my parents talk about. So, I've never been sure if "new math" is what has been taught since then or what. Based on what my friends with kids and social media say, math is taught differently than when I was a kid. So, I'm not sure. I've heard "new math" or "they must be using new math" to describe confusing numbers but even that's pretty outdated.

I think that's the joke in the movie though. The school is so outdated that they are finality able to do 30 year old teaching methods.

Yeah, New Math was a thing in the 60s that tried to emphasize a lot of mathematical concepts that weren't included in the core curriculum of public schools. It fell out of fashion pretty quickly, so now the phrase "New Math" is generally used as a description of any sort of educational fad that doesn't last very long (or isn't expected to last very long).
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 08:50 AM

Fun fact - Did you guys know that the actor that played Ahmal (the boy that got most of the solos) is apparently a well known song writer and was in City High that had this earworm hit:


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:08 AM

View PostSaraK, on 02 January 2018 - 08:50 AM, said:

Fun fact - Did you guys know that the actor that played Ahmal (the boy that got most of the solos) is apparently a well known song writer and was in City High that had this earworm hit:


I did know that! But only because I looked at the buzzfeed "where are they now" for the kids from SA2.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:17 AM

View Posttomspanks, on 02 January 2018 - 09:08 AM, said:


I did know that! But only because I looked at the buzzfeed "where are they now" for the kids from SA2.


Ah I knew I recognized Maria from somewhere but couldn't place her. I must have missed the Legally Blonde credit when I was reading through her IMDB page.