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Episode 157 - Grease vs. Hairspray (w/ Adam Egypt Mortimer)


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Poll: Episode 157 - Grease vs. Hairspray (w/ Adam Egypt Mortimer) (36 member(s) have cast votes)

Which film should enter The Canon?

  1. Grease (15 votes [41.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.67%

  2. Hairspray (21 votes [58.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.33%

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#21 robtucker63

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 09:55 PM

Maybe a Bergman vs. episode? Persona vs. The Seventh Seal? Wild Strawberries vs. Persona?

#22 bleary

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:30 AM

View Postrobtucker63, on 05 June 2018 - 09:55 PM, said:

Maybe a Bergman vs. episode? Persona vs. The Seventh Seal? Wild Strawberries vs. Persona?


Those matchups would be so cruel, particularly the latter. Wild Strawberries and Persona are both probably among my top 30 favorite films ever.

#23 robtucker63

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 03:16 PM

View Postbleary, on 06 June 2018 - 08:30 AM, said:


Those matchups would be so cruel, particularly the latter. Wild Strawberries and Persona are both probably among my top 30 favorite films ever.



Without a doubt. I love all three - each one is Canon-worthy.

#24 docxen

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 12:33 PM

This is such a hard choice. I enjoyed hairspray. I was overweight as a kid and it was cool to see someone being empowered and overweight. However, as a guy there were more overweight famous male role models than women had maybe. Grease though was my gateway to the world of musicals. Being a red neck southern boy finding myself drawn to musicals was an awkward experience. I mean sexy gals and great singing what's not to love. Even today though when i talk to real life people in my area about musicals i get smug looks. Why i love the net was so amazing to know online friends who are straight guys who also love musicals. So grease is wha wha what i want..(sorry)..

#25 daustin

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:46 AM

Slight edge to Hairspray, despite (not because of) Amy's nonsensical argument that Hairspray is not camp. Don't know where that argument came from, but this was definitely an amusing throwback to the wacky Amy/Devin arguments where one of them (usually Devin, to be fair) would take some bonkers position to bolster their pick.
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#26 Cronopio

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 10:28 PM

Even though my 9-year-old self loved Grease when it came out, and it marked the first time I went to the movies with a member of the opposite sex on what we thought was a date, I can't even muster up enough nostalgia to find it watchable, while Hairspray makes me wanna dance, even though I'd normally rather have my eyes poked out than dance.

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 03:42 PM

Sometimes things feel right because they are familiar and we expect they are the way they are for some good reason. This has been my life with Grease. It turns out that the film was always broken and I just didn't bother to notice if it was. This was also the experience of our heroine in Hairspray with respect to society, a reckoning and the acknowledgement of a change of values.

I paused Hairspray halfway through and was surprised to find I had only watched 20 minutes. Thankfully, things picked up and in the end I found that I had really enjoyed it. I like that Divine does double duty, and I loved the awe-shucksiness of Ricki Lake. I found the music and dance unbearable. Side note, I also watched Swing Time on the same day and it was too much with the stopping to dance, and the racism was taxing.

I'd like to say a big thanks to Susan* for the perspective and context. I have not seen SNF, but I have experienced transformative media and it's subsequent derivative and meaningless yet fun progeny and now I see Grease in a way which can never really be the same. Yet, I still enjoy it.

For the Canon, my vote goes to Hairspray.