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Episode 192 - Striptease: LIVE!

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Live from Onion Fest in Chicago, Paul, June, and Jason discuss the 1996 Demi Moore film Striptease. They cover everything including vaseline on Burt Reynold’s body, Ving Rhame’s yogurt scheme, the thought process behind the name “Flesh Farm,” and more. Plus, stay tuned at the end for all the extra amazing 2nd Opinions theme songs!

 

 

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The amount of time dedicated to just talking about how amazing the big, fake breasts makes me think that hearing these three talk about someone/something like DEADLY WEAPONS starring Chesty Morgan would be pretty hilarious/traumatizing.

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"This performance by Burt Reynolds is the closest we'll ever get to seeing a real-life personification of the KFC mascot, Colonel Sanders"

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You know, besides the real-life man, Colonel Sanders

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I think part of the reason Burt Reynolds did this movie for scale is because his career was at a real low point. He went from being one of the biggest movie stars in the country to mostly failed sitcoms (except Evening Shade which is great) and cameos. His last kind of successful movie was Cop & 1/2. I could see him lobbying to get into what was probably billed as a sexy crime thriller starring probably the biggest actress of the day.

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Regarding the big fake boobs discussion. I actually talked to a porn actress I was internet friends with about her's, so if this is wrong, I'm just going by what she said to me, as it could vary from person to person.

 

Women with the comically large breast implants don't go comically large straight away. So, they'd start with a 34D for example, allowing the skin to stretch and heal to that new size, and then they'd move up to an E or F cup, and then gradually grow bigger and bigger, to prevent the skin from tearing. It's sort of like those gauges that stretch ears, but with big ass titties.

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I have a theory as to why Ving Rhames treated Demi Moore much better than the other women. He had a crush on her, and he thought he'd never get woman like her if he was just a "dumb bouncer".

 

It explains why he would pretend to read the Wall Street Journal then tell somebody "do I look like I follow politics", and how he boasted that his lawyer thought his roach plan was "genius". But, the problem is, because he is just a dumb bouncer, he can't keep the act up.

 

Also, I think the monkey isn't really his, I think he's monkey-sitting for another stripper, who I have decided is called "June Gail Fever", because it sounds like "Jungle Fever".

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When paul was discussing the hdtgm 96 ranked movies he said dragonheart beat striptease . Sorry paul bad memory you didnt do dragonheart you changed your mind a did boy next door instead

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Fun Fact about breast implants. There's a kind of breast implant known as "The Chyna 2000", named after the late former WWE wrestler, and only female WWE Intercontinental Champion, Chyna.

 

They were custom made breast implants for larger framed women like female bodybuilders and Pro Wrestlers. More importantly, they were more durable than regular implants, because of the various hits they'll take. Chyna had to get them made because she burst one of her implants during a match.

 

So, there you go, a "How Did This Get Made?" about how a breast augmentation was made.

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Moving this over because I know a lot of commenters don't read the mini-threads...

 

Here's a request because suddenly I feel like it needs to be said... For C&Os can we not go into detail about which strip clubs people have been to? I understand that this is probably not an accurate representation of a real club, but I honestly don't need details nor images in my brain of anyone on here ogling topless women.

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The bigger the cups, the bigger the bucks!

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I think part of the reason Burt Reynolds did this movie for scale is because his career was at a real low point. He went from being one of the biggest movie stars in the country to mostly failed sitcoms (except Evening Shade which is great) and cameos. His last kind of successful movie was Cop & 1/2. I could see him lobbying to get into what was probably billed as a sexy crime thriller starring probably the biggest actress of the day.

Unfortunately Boogie Nights came out the next year. I think that would have done more for his career if it had come first.

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At the video store where Stuart Pankin slaps his nephew in the back of the neck in which it was already injured, you can see posters of "Honeymoon in Vegas" and "It Could Happen to You" in the background. These films were also directed by Andrew Bergman, who made "Striptease".

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I have loved these Chicago eps where it's just been the three of them. All glory to the awesome guests and regulars like St. Clair and Esposito and Adam Scott, but the three of them together is pretty magic.

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I have loved these Chicago eps where it's just been the three of them. All glory to the awesome guests and regulars like St. Clair and Esposito and Adam Scott, but the three of them together is pretty magic.

 

Dare you to say that on Reddit :D

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A couple of quick omissions:

 

- When Det. Garcia shows up at Erin's house while she dancing around, she tells him that she was rehearsing, but she was actually getting dressed at the time he showed up. That routine would not be very ... um, lucrative.

 

- When Erin sneaks into her ex's trailer to snatch her daughter, she comes out from behind an old rusted pickup truck, which she hides behind as her ex and his sister walk away. But when she comes out of the trailer, there's a gray Mercedes parked right outside, exactly where the ex would have been walking.

 

- That amount of sugar falling on the henchmen from above would crush them dead, not bury them up to their necks like goddamn Wile E Coyote.

 

- What do you imagine a bog-standard non-motorized wheelchair would go for on the black market?

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Dare you to say that on Reddit :D

Mmm, hard pass.

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I'm glad Burt Reynolds' wig was brought up, because it reminded me of a story about it.

 

Burt made an appearance at WrestleMania X, as the special guest ring announcer for the main event. Pat Patterson, a former wrestler who was one of the guys in WWE who thought up of various storylines, gave some advice to Burt, telling him "When you walk to the ring, make sure you stay in the middle of the aisle, because those fans are going to try to grab you, so if you don't want anything getting grabbed, stay in the middle where they can't reach you", and motioned toward Burt's hair.

 

Burt heeded Pat's advice, and his wig remained firmly attatched to his head for the duration of the evening.

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Fun Fact about breast implants. There's a kind of breast implant known as "The Chyna 2000", named after the late former WWE wrestler, and only female WWE Intercontinental Champion, Chyna.

 

They were custom made breast implants for larger framed women like female bodybuilders and Pro Wrestlers. More importantly, they were more durable than regular implants, because of the various hits they'll take. Chyna had to get them made because she burst one of her implants during a match.

 

So, there you go, a "How Did This Get Made?" about how a breast augmentation was made.

 

I enjoyed your facts! The only thing I got is my friends dad used to sell implants and he would just have them lying around his home. Great ep!

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I don't watch the movies so when they mentioned the sugar factory I thought it was the name of the strip club. Surely a classier title than The Meat Farm?

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God, June fuckin NAILED it on her criticisms and did an excellent "This Week in Feminism."

 

This "movie" is fucking disgusting in every single aspect. From the judges ability to scoff at a single mother who doesn't currently have a job, to the way she scoffs at dancing as a profession, to the way every man turns into a gd Tex Avery cartoon the minute she walks on stage, to Jerry being written off as "harmless" when he full on stalked her (and later we discover built a shrine to her), to Ving blaming Demi being on edge on her fuckin period, to Burt Reynolds referring to her as a creature, to literally every scene in this movie. I can't even go through everything that made me cringe because I'll basically be posting the whole script and highlighting the parts where the other dancers have each other's backs because that's literally the only good thing this movie shows, but then June is right in that not even Demi sticks up for the girls because she is seen as "above" them. I'm so fucking sick of these fucking types of movies that posit themselves as liberating women when they do nothing but shit on them for 2 hours. Yeah I feel super duper liberated now...

 

So with all of that said I have a few questions:

  • What did Terminator 2 even do to get her fired? Why is it her entire career as a secretary hinges on what this asshole's criminal record is like? Did he do something through her job? Like did he steal something that he wouldn't have gotten hold of if he hadn't been married to the FBI's secretary?
  • She mentions how impossible it seems to get $15,000 for an appeal in 6 weeks, but she also says this is already 8 weeks in to working at the Eager Beaver. Has she not already made some money? Is that the additional money she needs now that she is already so much in?
  • If she truly did not want to be an erotic dancer, then why is she? I understand the hopelessness women can feel and understand that many women do not feel they have a choice when it comes to becoming a dancer or a sex worker, but we don't actually see that kind of hopelessness here. She goes from court to 8 weeks later without the audience being clued in to the fact that she tried to get any other jobs. I know they want us to accept that she felt this was her only option (and I believe she says to the detective that this is the job that will pay her enough in such short of time), but this all just goes back to how fucking awful this movie is to women and to erotic dancers.

 

Fuck this fucking movie.

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[*]What did Terminator 2 even do to get her fired? Why is it her entire career as a secretary hinges on what this asshole's criminal record is like? Did he do something through her job? Like did he steal something that he wouldn't have gotten hold of if he hadn't been married to the FBI's secretary?

Someone said in the mini thread that working for law enforcement could require a background check on criminals you may know. This was for working in a prison and if you knew people in that specific prison. That's a far shot away from an FBI secretary being married to a police informant. So, I guess it's plausible but still unusual.

 

EDIT: It just occurred to me a friend from college is in the FBI. I might ask him of he knows the policy for being married to criminals.

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Someone said in the mini thread that working for law enforcement could require a background check on criminals you may know. This was for working in a prison and if you knew people in that specific prison. That's a far shot away from an FBI secretary being married to a police informant. So, I guess it's plausible but still unusual.

 

EDIT: It just occurred to me a friend from college is in the FBI. I might ask him of he knows the policy for being married to criminals.

Then she should have never been hired if she wouldn't pass a background check. Those things don't usually come up after you've been settled in the job.

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Maybe it's a poorly executed swipe at the "Good Old Boy" network. One of the things being used in his defence was "He was one of the finest tailbacks in High School football history!" like that is a legitimate thing to say in a guy's defence.

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Then she should have never been hired if she wouldn't pass a background check. Those things don't usually come up after you've been settled in the job.

I had a thing written out based on a former coworker who lost his job but then I realized we're taking about her ex husband. How do you lose your job because your ex is a scumbag. Being married is one thing but you can't control what your ex does?

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