Episode 43.5 — Bonus Cut: Little Work Arounds
Posted 10 September 2012 - 11:01 PM
Posted 11 September 2012 - 04:57 PM
First off, Wire wasn't punk? What about this jam:
http://youtu.be/6nE8DFaxd94 -- Ex-lion tamer
http://youtu.be/fwJCUn0ndwA -- Mr. Suit
Wire was a huge influence on bands like the Minutemen, whose first albums are undisputeably punk.
As for describing bands like Talking Heads and Television as new wave, there are two things to remember:
1. Bands like the Talking Heads and Television were considered "punk" not just because they were playing CBGB's, but because they were also among the first bands to be featured in the uber-influential Punk Magazine, started by "Please Kill Me" author Legs McNeil.
2. New Wave was a term invented by Sire mogul Seymour Stein in order to re-package these punk bands since the word punk had such bad connotations (Stein himself has said that he found the term "derogative" -- http://en.wikipedia....i/Seymour_Stein) So just because there was a concerned campaign to ensure bands like the Talking Heads, Television and Devo were listed as "New Wave," they could also be described as punk too.
Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:49 PM
Rabbi Huskey: Not Jews, Oh no no no no. I mean—
Rabbi Besser: Germans.
Rabbi Huskey: Yeah.
Rabbi Besser: A little payback.
Rabbi Huskey: I mean, a little bit of payback. Eh, I mean, y'know, Let bygones be guybuns.
Let bygones be guybuns. Burgermeister.
Also, "That's why I won't have milk" was a perfect call back/scene-capper.
Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:54 AM
Posted 12 September 2012 - 11:42 AM
YES. And don't forget the Wailers!
(Being a Washingtonian who lives in California, I have some serious pride in my state's musical roots)
The Troggs definitely deserve some credit for being proto-punk as well.
It should also be noted that Crime's "Hotwire my heart" single came out around the same time as the first Ramones LP did and the only way it can be described is as "punk as fuck."
As for Sound Opinions, I think these shows where DeRogatis and Kot talk about old albums/important musical movements are just their way of taking advantage of the show and talking about their favorite tracks at length, instead of just dedicating a moment or two in their "Desert Island Jukebox" segment. Sadly, the tracks they chose are always the most played out jams possible and never as exciting as "Hotwire" or the Pagans' "Six and Change"