Episode 16 — Yikes Ahoy!
Posted 24 October 2012 - 11:01 PM
Posted 25 October 2012 - 12:07 PM
Just by the by, I have a friend who is full blooded (skipping word here you'll see why) and I asked him what exactly he would like to be referred to as. Here is EXACTLY how that conversation went.
"No...I mean yeah I get that. Sorry, I just I meant...I'm white..."
"Right, no, I'm white and..."
"I'm very happy for you."
"Stop it! What is your race."
"I mean, I'm not like taking a census, I just want to know what to refer to you as."
"You mean other than Frank? Why do you need to refer to me as anything, other than Frank?"
"Well you know...in conversation...in case..."
"You want to say you have an Indian friend, don't you?"
"Thank you. Yeah well, if you don't know the tribe name and don't want to ask because you're too lazy or are worried you won't say it right, which you won't, just don't call us Indians or Native Americans. It wasn't America until you got here. If you don't know the tribe, refer to us as Indigenous People."
"You're going to keep saying I'm your Indian friend, aren't you?"
"Probably going to say Native American because that sounds less racist."
"I hate you."
Posted 25 October 2012 - 06:51 PM
This made my morning more than I could possibly, impotently express here.
Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:52 AM
Also, did you know that the phrase "tongue in cheek" comes from the propensity of Cher impersonators to say things in a jokey or sarcastic tone? This is not actually true, but the alternate universe in which it is true is probably a little more interesting than this one.
Posted 27 October 2012 - 11:31 AM
Hmmm...Yeah, it's not "Nigerian-American" or "Ghanaian-American", is it? So if the first part just refers to a continent, I suppose the second part should as well. I do think some Canadians are a little sensitive about being mis-identified as Americans or by Americans just treating Canada as an extension of the US (Yo, is this racist?), so I can see why they'd resist that formulation.
Anyway, came in to chime in with what everyone else has apparently already said. I actually really liked the daily format, both as a change of pace and as a nice quick show that I could listen to during lunch or something, but there were enough through-lines here to show why the longer format is superior. And of course, PFT is the best.
Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:50 PM
Because white people aren't in danger of dwindling down to nothing? A lot of the native American tribes are so few in numbers that identity is extremely important to them. Also there is the fact that many of them have been granted quasi-independent status within the US, so it seems logical that you would have an ID card if you were from there, just like any country has its own ID card(s).
The one thing that gets me, is Markos' post about wanting to be called "indigenous." This is the first time I've ever heard of someone claiming that the term is somehow preferable to "Native American." Now given, I am white, but in things I have read and people I have talked to, it usually seems split about 50/50 between wanting to be called "Native American" and wanting to be called "American Indian."
The point about how you should call them by their tribal name, however, is totally spot on. I have made it a point to do that, and in general you should avoid using the general terms when you are referring to an individual person whenever possible.