Ben Westhoff (LA Weekly Music Editor) and rapper Marcel Carrion join MC Nocando & Jeff Weiss to celebrate the dub anniversary of the classic West-Coast album The Chronic. The guys discuss what the album means to them, the cultural impact it had on fashion, and the never ending quotable lines such as that “Deeez Nuuuts.” They also talk about the iconic ”Nuthin’ but a ‘G’ Thang” video, how the album captured the reality of L.A. after the riots, and why some people still don’t like it.
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Episode 7 — The Dub Anniversary of The Chronic
Started by Earwolf Admin, Dec 06 2012 12:01 AM
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:58 PM
The bad Jamaican accent at the start of "Let Me Ride" says:
Wha'ppen now, baby? Yuh look good inna yuh car, eeh? Long time mi a watch yuh an mi wan' chat to ya and ya gwan like yuh nah wan' chat to me. So wha'ppen, Dre? Tell me what the fuck a gwan now?
If you don't know, now you know...
Wha'ppen now, baby? Yuh look good inna yuh car, eeh? Long time mi a watch yuh an mi wan' chat to ya and ya gwan like yuh nah wan' chat to me. So wha'ppen, Dre? Tell me what the fuck a gwan now?
If you don't know, now you know...
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:51 AM
It was funny listening to you guys incoherently argue with a 20 year old Robert Christgau review. "its spiritual source the blaxploitation soundtrack"--how is that off the mark when talking about an album full of samples from Rudy Ray Moore and Isaac Hayes?
It's a good album, but I can see how anyone who was over 15 when they first heard it could hear the nihilism and hatred of women and gays. You guys even admit that it led to more gangbanging.
It's a good album, but I can see how anyone who was over 15 when they first heard it could hear the nihilism and hatred of women and gays. You guys even admit that it led to more gangbanging.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:19 PM
Shots Fired is one of my favorite podcasts, but y'all are way off when it comes to misogyny on The Chronic, and in rap music in general.
The comparison to slasher flicks rings hollow: people don't imitate slasher flicks the way kids in the '90s (self included) repeated misogynistic and homophobic lines from The Chronic and other hip-hop albums. You played a chant from the album, "B****es ain't s***..." That doesn't bother you?
I love hip-hop, and I always have, but as I've grown up it's become harder to overlook the hateful lyrics that are in so much of it. I imagine many share this sentiment. I'd love to hear you guys really wrestle with that subject rather than defending it or dismissing it.
The comparison to slasher flicks rings hollow: people don't imitate slasher flicks the way kids in the '90s (self included) repeated misogynistic and homophobic lines from The Chronic and other hip-hop albums. You played a chant from the album, "B****es ain't s***..." That doesn't bother you?
I love hip-hop, and I always have, but as I've grown up it's become harder to overlook the hateful lyrics that are in so much of it. I imagine many share this sentiment. I'd love to hear you guys really wrestle with that subject rather than defending it or dismissing it.
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:32 PM
ZombieThreepwood, on 09 December 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:
Bitches Aint Shit is one of the greatest rap hooks of all time, and does not bother me.
Help me out, though. Why are you comfortable with it? Do you agree with the sentiment of the song? Would you be okay with a song that used a racial slur in the same way, as long as it was catchy?
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:50 PM
I'm comfortable with it because I don't need to be morally aligned with everything I watch, read or listen to. Andre Young may think that Bitches Ain't Shit (as is his right), but I certainly do not. This doesn't change the fact that the song is fucking fantastic.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:57 PM
ZombieThreepwood, on 10 December 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:
I'm comfortable with it because I don't need to be morally aligned with everything I watch, read or listen to. Andre Young may think that Bitches Ain't Shit (as is his right), but I certainly do not. This doesn't change the fact that the song is fucking fantastic.
It would be unreasonable to demand perfect moral agreement, but there's a line somewhere, right? If it were a white artist chanting, "N*****s ain't shit," would you be endorsing it enthusiastically as one of the all time great hooks? I don't need to be morally aligned with my music. I'd just rather not be disgusted by it.
