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Some suggestions: - Russian Roulette Beer Pong. Same rules as Beer Pong, however, one of the cups is poisoned, first one to die loses. - The Crushed Glass Muay Thai fights from Kickboxer. - The Landmine Sprint. Competitors line up at the start, you bet on who will A.) Not Die, and B). Finish the race first. . Road Rash. Sort of like the old video game. A bunch of people on motorbikes, with the melee weapon of their choosing. But, instead of a race, they just keep going until there's one left standing - Bullfighting. I don't mean like the they do in Spain, I mean actual fist fighting with the bull.

I think this question and answer point to the fundamental flaw of this movie. Is it about a casino plane or is it about rich people betting on anything? Those two things don't really go together. The notion of making people do things and betting on or watching the outcome is well worn thriller/horror movie fodder. I can give you five movies off the top of my head where this is the entire premise of the movie. What common thread do these movies have in common, they all take place either online or in a private residence. As pointed out in the episode the actual thing they are betting on is more illegal than the betting itself, so what's the point of being in international airspace if those things are happening on the ground. Streaming it online would not only get more bets and money, but is just as legal as the money plane itself. The only reason they would need to get into international airspace is if the things you are doing were illegal like Russian roulette. That begs the question, who would want to play a game like this? If they were super rich, why would they bother throwing their life and riches away to play this kind of game? If they were killers, criminals and rapists why would they want to play as well, wouldn't their enjoyment come from killing the other person or watching somebody suffer and not themselves? If I am the most successful arms dealer, why would I play a game in which I could die when killing somebody in a legal grey zone like "international airspace" is more my speed? Having them bet on people doing it makes sense but that's not a casino. Casino doesn't mean betting, it means gambling which bets can be a part of. In fact some casinos do let you bet on anything as long as they can make odds on it. Want to bet on the identity of the masked singer? Sure. Want to bet on which states will go what way in the upcoming election? You got it. Granted the things you are betting on are not illegal of course. Casinos also have no limit backroom games that you can bet a million dollars on poker if you want so why would the super rich need the money plane to bet like that? If you were super rich, why would you want to be sign or possibly have records of you hobnobbing it up with human traffickers and serial killers? All of this begs the question what does the money plane provide that most casinos or online things cannot? Simply it can't and has no reason to exist. What I would do to have it make sense is each rich person recruits or brings another person on board. That person is their "player" who is forced into playing games like Russian roulette, arm choppy offy, or other torturous things. They all bet on the outcomes and various sidebets and wagers that come out of this. The "player" that wins not only gets a jackpot for themselves but the rich person that brought them gets rewarded as well. Heck, I'll even go simpler and just stick to the casino. Regular gambling things like poker but the things they bet are illegal like wagering people, drugs, guns, ownership of companies, etc.

To answer my own question, I’d definitely would have like to see something far more deviant. Like, why not bet on whether they could get a Sportscaster or a News Anchor to take a shit on their desk on live television, or whether they can convince a nun and priest to fuck each other during a church service. How about, if given the proper “incentive,” could they get a person to cut off their own fingers and toes? Can they cut off more than their opponent? How about faster? Quieter? Could you get them to eat their own severed digits? I’m just saying, if you are going to present the viewer with an “anything goes” gambling scenario run by unscrupulous psychopaths, dealing out some Texas Hold-Em is pretty fucking ho hum.

Man v. Man gladiator fights Man v. Apex predator (tiger, shark, bear, etc.) Going back to my original comment in this thread about Andy Lawrence basically cribbed a bunch of ideas from other movies, the one he kind of failed at stealing from the most was the direct-to-DVD third film in the Hostel series. That movie is set outside of Las Vegas and in this version people aren't really paying for the ability to torture someone, they are betting on how they will either die or how long it will take. One guy the bet is how many arrows it will take to kill him and another I think was how many pounds of live bugs would he have to ingest before dying. It wasn't bad given that the movie was a rush job for the straight to video market, but the games offered in that movie were a hundred times better than what was in this one.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE CRIME IN INTERNATIONAL AIRSPACE! In researching "international air" and "committing crimes," you find that the same laws apply to international waters. One article, again more specific to crimes committed in International Waters, notes that "the simple fact is, no one lives in international waters forever. Once you reach the port, you may have to show responsibility for the crimes that you’ve committed. That is, if no one catches you before. So no, international waters are not technically no one’s land where you can do whatever you want." And as Jason brought up... what crimes were actually being committed on the plane? I mean the only illegal activity outside of gambling without a license, is The Concierge shooting a guy for cheating. Yes, we see people betting on how long someone will survive a snake bite or a pool of piranhas, but the act of those specific events are happening on the ground where laws will surely punish those perpetrating it! Also Paul, based on your past experience... what were your feelings on the acting of the guy being devoured by Piranhas?

As a bald/balding man who smokes a pipe on occasion and is severely disgusted by feet, this episode really spoke to me.

You mean a guy who paid homeless dudes a pittance to beat the piss outta each other might have been a shrewd thief? Say it ain't so?!

Send a dang Mongol bum to go and bang a bongo drum, a little bit too hard like the taste of wilted rhubarb. I rustle my feathers in this brussel sprout weather. I guess it comes down to just muscle and leather.

Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining, unless of course it IS raining, and in that case, piss away.

I'm kind of shocked that this movie was not already recommended. It's got: Jeremy Piven as a college senior, looking at least 35 already Young Jon Favreau in dreadlocks Jessica Walter as the politically correct head of the university David Spade as the preppie villain and head of the evil frat Balls & Shaft George Clinton and Parliament at a dorm party Jake Busey as a stoner who plays in an ultimate frisbee league Cowritten by Zak Penn (Last Action Hero, X2 and X3, Ready Player One) Directed by Torontonian actor Hart Bochner, and filmed at U of T It's basically a 90s update of Animal House with warring factions of politically correct students, all of whom hate "The Pit", a bunch of stoners and general misfits whose fraternity is going to be closed if they don't raise enough funds blah blah. It's not aging well, and it wasn't exactly aging well even in 1994, but Piven's manic cokehead energy and the supporting cast and some truly random moments give it a soft spot in my head. I mean heart. Anyway, here is the trailer.

I think it’s safe to say we were all a little disappointed in the games offered on the Money Plane. Out of curiosity, what kind of depraved attractions were you hoping would be featured on board?

Or put nutella on it like god intended!

Or even like the audience at a game of Russian Roulette

If it's a .22 you may as well not even bother for both spray from the victim and the hole left in the canvas, if there even is one. You want something like a .45 at most, especially if it's a larger canvas, that way you have a hole to tell a story about and a good portion of the canvas is "painted." You use something like a .50, especially from something like a Barrett, then you're just going to destroy the canvas and your lackey will look like the crowd who went to one of the first Gallagher shows and didn't know what the Sledge-O-Matic was.

If it were "Harry the Dirty Dog" he would've said, "It would be better to steal the candy and bury it in the backyard." Or if it were "The Hungry Caterpillar" it would've been "yeah, fuck, eat the whole lot -- you'll be a butterfly by tomorrow anyway." Does he go through movements with his art? Does he have a hollow-point collection, and a series done with shotguns?

Oh my god...IMDB has this listed as a sequel to Money Train! Let's hear how these movies are connected

For me, this movie really highlighted the importance of good editing. Not in a grammatical sense or ensuring that superfluous scenes end up on the cutting room floor, but in how the order of a scene is so important in making them feel necessary. For example, there's a scene where Katrina Norman is attacked. Afterwards, she reveals that the safe she's supposed to crack, but realizes that the specs for the safe are different than what they prepared for. Man-Bun asks her if she can do it. She says, yes, but it will take time -- which he says they don't have. It cuts back to her, she takes the goon's finger, places it on the keypad, and bing! it immediately opens. Not only is that all super boring, but it makes the previous line about the safe being nigh impenetrable absolutely pointless. It would have made far more engaging for her to uncover the uncrackable safe first, call Man-Bun and say, "Hey, bro, we have a problem. The safe is going to take more time than we thought. Plus, it requires thumb print identification." He could then say that they don't have that kind of time, and maybe even give her a ticking clock. (i.e. "If we don't open that safe in the next three minutes we're toast!") THEN, while focused on cracking the safe, she gets caught off guard. So now we have her in a situation where if she doesn't win this fight, she's going to be exposed or killed. At the same time, the fight is also costing precious seconds that they don't have, threatening to blow the entire operation. She could then defeat the guard, maybe give a comedic nod to the fact that there's no way some random guard would have the thumbprint required that will open it, tries it anyway, and boom, it works! My version includes all the elements that made it into the final film, but in reordering them, it increases the the stakes considerably. There's absolutely no point in introducing a problem just for your character to resolve it immediately. Good drama means continually ratcheting the tension by constantly stacking the decks against the heroes.

Worst heist crew ever. Manbun is as inept at being a father as he is a criminal. He keeps his loaded gun in an unlocked bedside drawer that is about 16 inches from the floor. Perfect height for, I don't know, a 10 year old girl to stumble across. Did not see any trigger lock on that bad boy either. Regarding the criminal ineptitude of the team in general, Grouch and Manbun agree that "Taking down the house" on the Money Plane is a near impossible task that will require perfect planning and execution. Then Manbun meets with his team to discuss the heist plan for the better part of 3 minutes! During the heist, the guy who bitches and moans about being ground support shows up with what looks like a bunch of old junk he hasn't used in years and a rat's nest of tangled cords. And their final plan to "Manually distribute" the cash to people who need it is to throw it all out of the plane, including one wrapped block of bills that must weigh 30 pounds, all of which will either land in the ocean or likely kill someone on the ground. Speaking of...In spite of their general goofiness, they are pretty quick to violently murder people in the way as part of their MO. Makes me wonder about their other capers, robbing museums and such. Do they brutally kill the poor security guards who are just doing their jobs. Maybe they deserve a seat at the table on the MONEY PLANE!!! (Sequel Idea) Also have to call out the $14 dollar lava lamp on the bar of the most exclusive high-rollers room in the entire world.

Because we did not see The Rumble actually get killed at the end of this film, I believe it is because they have plans for a sequel. The film will be called Money Crane and it will involve Grouch blackmailing a new crew of criminals to steal a rare, expensive bottle of Chavignon Blanc that he and his brother Niles can enjoy at their next wine tasting event.

So when the plane returns to the terminal, do you think there is ever an issue where someone accidentally leaves with your weapon. Along the lines of taking the wrong umbrella at a restaurant? Where is the filing system?! Oh and why did the main hostess assume her staff are carrying firearms? I mean that feels like a HUGE safety issue if I were a passenger and could be killed by the flight attendant for asking for more warmed nuts.

Also we see the plane is departing from a HUGE airport where they would surely have to register it with the TSA.

Another major issue I had with the movie construct, is that we are supposed to think this group of criminals are elite enough to take down the Money Plane, when in fact the only thing we are shown, is them failing miserably at a simple B&E. Case in point, the first scene is man-bun's ID not working. How did that happen?! Why is he walking into the security office without a functioning ID. That is what you are leaving to the last minute? And another thing, the van is easily bugged so their video equipment shows them a feed where the painting is still there. These are a bunch of bumbling idiots and now they must take down a sophisticated money plane filled with the worst criminals.

"Man Bun is so big, he's too big" - June Diane Raphael. This goes to show you how insane the WWE was a few years ago. Adam "Edge" Copeland is 6'5" and around 240lbs. That was considered "average sized" in WWE.

It’s only like 82 minutes, so it’s a quick watch. It’s not awful, but it’s disappointing that it doesn’t do more with its absurd premise.

I was listening to an older episode of HDTGM, and Paul mentioned someone who made a cartoon version of moments in a few episodes. That got me watching this one about Reindeer Games: Watching this made me realize -- did Paul actually already realize the Rudy/Rudolph connection when he revealed it to the rest of the crew? Or was this a spontaneous realization in the moment. I had always assumed the latter but watching it in this format made me realize it might have just been impeccable comedic timing of a reveal. Absolutely side-splitting either way.