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Callin' Doctor Unk

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  1. Feel like Millennial should apply to people born from the mid 80s up to 9/11 and the kids born after 9/11 are whatever the next generation is.

    Yeah, I agree. That was definitely a cultural turning point between "generations." Strauss and Howe codified their definition of "Millennial" before 9/11, so that event didn't figure into their theory. I'd think that the deliniation would be between people who came of age after 9/11, though, and not when they were born. So maybe bumping the vague generational cutoff age of birth forward from the "Millennial" threshold of 1982 to something more like 1985 would be a better yardstick of a seperate 'generation.' In general, though, the whole Strauss–Howe generational theory and their grouping of "Millennials" seems over-generalized to me. On the other hand, I'm totally on board with the term "Trans-Millennial."

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  2. Just in point of fact, Strauss and Howe, who coined the term "Millennial," specifically defined it as people born between 1982 and 2004. Obviously there's no rigid definition of a 'generation,' but considering that the oldest Millennials are at this point 33 years old, they would hardly be in the same broad generation as a person born today.


  3. Nobody uses those other terms anymore. When millennial won the name battle, it pretty much lost any hard and fast dates.

    I wouldn't say that there was a "name battle"; they're all different terms with different meanings. 'Butter' and 'margarine' aren't involved in a name battle, either. But regardless, any categorization of a "generation" into a specific timeframe of birth dates, strictly or leniently, is silly. I think that was what Howard was joking about in the first place.


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    There is no commonly agreed upon start date for Millennials. Some academics use 1980, some use 1982 and others go as far as 1985.

    Well, according to Strauss and Howe, who introduced the term as it's currently used, 1982 is pretty specific; hence the word "milennial" itself. Other writers and analysts have applied a more nebulous definition of the generation, but usually apply a different terminology as well ("Generation Y," "Echo Boomers," etc). But "milennial" itself is a specific term with a specific meaning.

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