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Ok so Demi Moore wasn't a dancer for very long at the start of the movie right? How long was she working before Jerry became obsessed with her? Was he stalking some other poor dancer before her? Is she ok?Did he kill her to clear the way for his new obsession ?How long until he began to stalk Demi and take photos of her ? Is he following her home and taking photos or just when she leaves the club? Is that how he knows she has a daughter ? Did she tell him she lost custody ( If so why then fuck are you telling your patrons that you lost your child? That's just not smart. This woman worked for the FBI she should know basic safety procedures.) I need to know if his other victims are ok.

I have to reread Candy Girl it's so good. I have a copy around here somewhere in the many piles of books. I guess the one Regular Demi had was her stalker but he clearly was not wealthy. From what I read it's like your friend said Regulars are your lifeblood especially in smaller clubs. I'm starting to think the Eager Beaver is really more of a bar that has Exotic Dancers instead of a Stripclub . From what I know of burlesque it's more abut putting on a show and it's kind of an act. Like there's showmanship. This is just... there are moves but it's nothing but weird stage dances. So it's almost like extreme Hooters. Come for the booze stay for the naked ladies. Even my beloved Showgirls has a (horrific head banging on a dick) VIP room lap dance scene. I've never been to any kind of establishment nor would I want to (I personally find it very awkward because I know the women there are doing their job and I would feel weird ogling them and also I would just be like Burt Reynolds but with hand sanitizer because I feel like there must be germs everywhere)

THANK YOU! They really were the best people in this whole dumpster fire of a film. This woman was working with them for what 8 weeks? I wouldn't watch someone's fish much less THEIR CHILD if I knew them from work for 8 weeks. But no they were taking care of that little girl like they had known her her whole life. They were playing stupid games with her making sure she was getting to sleep and had a place to rest, she had snacks she wasn't alone. These women are giving up chances AT MAKING THEIR LIVING FOR DEMI. By staying in the backstage area with her daughter they are forfeiting their time on the floor where they could be earning money. To help this woman who has been with them for a mere 2 months. A woman who thinks she is better than them because she's a pure delicate flower while they are trash for earning a living and not being ashamed. They put themselves in potential danger by associating with her. They know her ex is a criminal and she clearly fears him and yet they are still there for her. They knew about the deranged congressman and the dead stalker. STILL they stuck by her. Because as you mentioned they know what it's like to be persecuted because of their choice of career. They know that the only people who have their backs are each other. They were so fucking accepting and welcoming of her and I guarantee she thought she was not only better than them throughout this but she would never ever give them a moments thought after this. I'd rather my child know I was a stripper than feel disgust and shame about women who went above and beyond because they are simply doing a job.

I personally think it's because it's about men and not women. Male strippers aren't seen in the same light as female strippers plain and simple. Women are more looked down on and shamed for being in the industry than men so I feel like unless the projects are run by women (particularly women who have been in the industry) you get movies like Showgirls and Striptease where the women are degraded and looked down on. I haven't seen Magic Mike but I don't get the sense that Mike or the boys are gonna be slut shamed, raped, or physically threatened because of their work so the movie seems a lot less depressing? I also think it helps in Magic Mike's case that Channing Tatum WAS a stripper. The movie is based partly on some of his time (right?) working as an exotic dancer. Or that's where the story started or something. So maybe that's why because it's less booo you're less of a person for working in this industry vibe?

I was honestly shocked that they let a known drug addict keep a child in his care than an unemployed mother. I feel like his lawyer HAD to have bribed the judge. Maybe he's also a drug DEALER as well as a user? Unless the judge needed a deal on a sweet sweet used wheelchair. Or a wolf dog? Also outside of using her for cons and spite wouldn't having to care for a kid cramp this kind of losers style?

THIS THIS THIS A THOUSAND TIMES THIS. These women are just people doing a job giving people a service. I would have loved to have actually gotten to actually get to know the women she worked with like in Miss Congeniality. I love that movie because not only does Sandy's character learn that not every pageant girl is a stereotype we get to actually meet these great interesting fun women through her. Like we get these small moments where they are all very human and real and I personally start to fall in love with these women and like one of my all time favorite moments is when they are all eating pizza and drinking (without the eating disorder joke) I would have loved to see that done for women in a much more hated and looked down upon profession. I honestly don't think Demi's character will ever think of or speak to those women again in her character's life even though they clearly cared for her and her child. Because she wasn't really a "dancer" she was only doing it because of this awful thing and that means that those other girls who are doing it because ( they want to/ it pays well/ it works with their schedule/ they also have some tragic life thing and sadly had to turn to a form of sex work which is a whole other rant) are therefore inferior. Like that's what this movie is saying. I wish we could have had a different version where instead of being above it and maintaining her perfect purity the movie could have focused more on how this is really just a job like any other and these women are no different than Demi.

I think we just found this weeks WINNER!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok so I've done some googling to see how much an Exotic Dancer can make. I'm determined to try to figure out (or at least give the far smarter people on these boards the info to do so) why Demi was unable to get the money she so desperately needed when what little I know about exotic dancing says that if you work hard and hustle it can be a great way of making money. I know the job can be very feast or famine though so that could account for some of the issues and there was the competing Flesh Farm *shudder*. So I found a bunch of articles but the one I'm using the most comes from a website geared towards exotic dancers. It's called https://www.exoticdanceguide.com/articles/exotic-dancers-make-a-night/ I'm reading several articles because I'm oddly fascinated by this and have nothing but time on my hands today. Ok so the first thing to keep in mind is how much a dancer has to tip out and how much house fees are. According to this article "Depending on the fee schedule a stripper could spend 50-100$ per night on fees and tipout, so in order to get past the red, the goal should be at a bare minimum, 300$ per night." if your working at a smaller club. So Demi would have to try to make at least $300 a night so that her time wasn't wasted. the article also makes the distinction of a Bikini Club vs a Nude Strip Club because you will make less at the former. I think that the Eager Beaver is a Nude Club ( because nude implies taking your to completely off right?) but if anyone knows the difference please correct me. BUT it says a lot of Nude clubs don't serve booze. So ? If she's working at a Nude club though they say that " The potential income for a nude strip dancer could reach into the thousands nightly" "Nude clubs often host feature dancers, and features not only get paid for dances but they also get paid for merchandise, and for their performance on stage. Features often spend a portion of their money for tipout for security and the DJ who helps them to coordinate their stage shows. The average income for a feature stripper could easily be in the thousands, as well just for a few hours at the club." The Eager Beaver isn't a corporate club which is where you apparently make the most money. A lot of money can be made on private dances and champagne rooms but I don't think we ever see Demi doing either of those.. which might be why she was having such a hard time coming up with the money. From this article from a Vegas stripper who makes about $300,000 a year (her chosen title) on Thrillist (https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/how-i-make-300k-stripping-in-vegas) she says she makes 80% of her money most nights in the VIP room. she says you can do about 30 lap dances on the floor and end up with less and she likes to know she's getting that $700 up front. One of the main things I keep seeing in these articles though is that you have to work the customers hard and we don't really see Demi doing that. They talk about how you can;t spend time backstage or talking. You need to consistently be working. Also you want to get as many VIP/ Champagne rooms sold as you can. It's very clear Demi doesn't want to be there and I think that's affecting her earnings. According to Payscale.com a 33 year old female dancer ( Demi's age when the movie came out) with zero years experience in the field in Miami Fl could make around $16k- 149k a year and her current market worth (whatever that means) is $31,243. and this Reddit thread is pretty interesting: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2icstq/strippers_of_reddit_seriously_how_much_money_do/

I just want to say I have never loved you more. I almost want to unlike this just so I can like it again. Ok so I asked why she got fired in the mini episode and someone said that at the prison they work at you have to disclose all prior criminal connections. So maybe she somehow manged to get hired and it went under the radar until her divorce and it came out that he was a criminal and they had to fire her? I don't understand why they would fire her though. At most I would think maybe they would ... I don't now put a demerit on her record ? (Though why she should be punished I don't really understand. I guess you could say she lied about her contacts or falsified parts of her background check?) She's a secretary though I don't think she's working with much classified stuff but I'm sure since it's technically a government job she would have had some kind of background check. I know on a lot of government forms ( I'm disabled on social security) I fill out they have that box you have to check if you yourself were convicted of a crime but I've never seen one for if you consort with criminals. Maybe there was one of those on her application and she falsified it? She mentions how impossible it seems to get $15,000 for an appeal in 6 weeks, but she also says this is already 8 weeks in to working at the Eager Beaver. Has she not already made some money? Is that the additional money she needs now that she is already so much in? THIS!!! If your a decent dancer you can make FUCKING BANK. I think I've already talked a bit about this in the The Hurricane Heist thread. it's a very lucrative career. On a good night I've read you can make about a grand.

Maybe the monkey is into auto-erotic asphyxiation. Or it's like a little loopy swing thing I've seen for birds and this was a cage originally meant for a bird

This kind of has to do with this but I read an article about a stripper who got her implants as a tax write off. She had to go to court to do it but the judge did rule that her implants were like... too large to be seen as anything but for work and not for personal preference. I find this idea that a breast implant size could be seen as only for work as fascinating. I'm honestly not sure I could ever be that dedicated to my job.

i would have to disagree with you . Personally I wished we had less time with Sam this season and more time with some of the other girls. I still loved it though. I LOST it when the brakedancing sequence happened and all i could think was June fuming about how just because something is difficult doesn't make it good! Truly this podcast has helped my me enjoy other things in my life so much more. I saw idiot teens trying to do the little jump hump move in the park the other day and instead of feeling old and"get off my lawn" I felt happy and wanted to scream RAD ( I did not because no one wants to be " that" weird adult. Besides we already have a very nice man who dresses like a full on fucking wizard in my town. I would never be that adult even if I tried)

This is fascinating. But i would assume as it's her Ex husband and she's trying to get sole custody of her child she could tell her job she's trying to cut him out of her life entirely. If she admitted to knowing him she might get maybe a demerit for not disclosing it before but I guess I'm surprised she could be fired for it.

I honestly wonder if he was the one who thought "Oh yes I'll lube up my ENTIRE body INCLUDING FEET" Like maybe the script just meant the chest and stuff we see?

It's not exactly Ass Sliding but in order to get into the secret tunnel that leads into the Shrieking Shack it's a bit of a tumble?

She was an assistant at the FBI who is fired because her ex husband is a criminal (because that's a thing?!) but yeah it was one of the BEST June moments of all time. Along with the moment coming up for the episode after this but that's more along the line of a "What's It's Mission"

Ok can we talk about how the opening song Break the Ice is clearly the 80's guy version of Let if Go from Frozen?

EXACTLY! I didn't take the SAT's but I did take the ACT's and since I had missed the og test date at my school because I was on homebound schooling( I was constantly sick). I just ended up going to a make up date like 3 months later at a nearby school and taking it . When I was there there were several people retaking the test because you can pay to retake the SAT's and ACT's. So even if Cru took the test and flunked it he could technically take it again. In fact it would probably behoove him to take it later because now he has something to write about for his essay portion (depending on the questions available) .

I honestly thought they found them floating in the river

The really small town near my grandparents has a 4th of July parade every year that's pretty much this exact parade but with more John Deere tractors and firetrucks . In fact this parade is probably fancier than our town's parade is. I might actually be working at this year's parade for my local library since it's a part of our library system and we're trying to get people to vote on a millage next month. If only we could get someone to do some sweet sweet bike dancing we would get that vote passed for sure.

Well it looks like we need to build ourselves a satellite to make a hurricane then.

I was just about to grab my copy I bought from one of the library book sales I worked to do even more research while i recover from getting the nerves in my back semi burned (the joys of herniated disc / pressed nerve fun)! Sidenote I'm a volunteer of my library's Friend's Association and my god has it enabled my book buying addiction. Four or five sales a year with books at a dollar and 50 cents a pop and half off on Fridays/ a dollar a bag on Saturdays... it's like giving a druggie access to the warehouse that they stash the drugs seized by the cops. PLUS we just started a deal with a local resale shop to sell our nicest books there for a higher price (red a dollar for paper backs and $2 for hard cover up to a whopping $5 for the really nice sometimes super pricey art coffee books we get in) It's a miracle I have room to move in my house. If you want to buy books cheap and help your local library see if they have any sales throughout the year.) What i'm saying is I will soon be found dead hordes style with cats nibbling my exposed limbs after a tragic book avalanche and I'm ok with that.

No the real hard part was having to smuggle their damn cigarettes to their fucking raft.

I mean you don't have to RUN it. I just think it would be a great way to clean money and make a profit. Open up a bunch all over the country maybe go international and live off yacht cruising from one luxury marina to the next or whatever floats your boat (I had to.. the pun was just THERE). I would give you a reason to have a lot of money coming in and would keep even more money coming in.