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  2. Posted

    15 hours ago, GrahamS. said:

    I actually suggested this as an HDTGM film, not because I think it’s bad (I’d give it a C+, for reasons I’ll get into) but because it’s insanely 80s (which I’m sure June would enjoy) and also intensely problematic.

    Here’s what I said:

    Thisï»żï»żÂ willÂ ï»żï»żbe a controversial choice. I just watched this. Here are the things that are good about this movie.

    ï»żÂ 1. Prince’s opï»żening and closing performances.

    2. Morris Daï»ży (who’s also fucking awesome). Acting-wise, he’s the best thing in this film. Pretty much every scene he’s in is funny. And his music numbers are entertaining.ï»ż

    otherwise, holy shitï»ż,Prince is a fucking asshole in this film. And I’m a Prince fan. I’m legitimately surprised that he allowed hiï»żmself to look THIS bad. Perhaps he thought he was giving off a tortured artist vibe—and the film is semi-autobï»żiographical—but he treats Appolonia (and pretty much all the women around him) like shit. Why her character is romantically drawn to him is a totally underdeveloped mystery, since he abuses her fairly roï»żutiï»żnely.

    Also: I will go out on aÂ ï»żlimb and say Computer Blue is a terrible song. So is Appolonia’s song.

    Dont get me wrong, the soundtrack to this movie largely kicks ass andï»żÂ some of the musical sequences are great (and besides Morris Day, they’re the main reason to watch the film). But man, there’s some dark stuff here that’s givenÂ ï»ża superficial 80s music-video style treatment, andï»żÂ it’s pretty fucking jarring.

    i know people—especially Jason—would object, but I would be interested inï»żÂ hearing Jason, June and Paul take an honest look at this film. I knoï»żw thisï»żÂ filï»żï»żï»żm hï»żas an iconic reputation, buï»żï»żï»żt goï»żï»żdï»żï»żdaï»żï»żmn is iï»żt proï»żblemï»żatiï»żï»żc

    Thank you!! I was ready to write a scathing rant on his incredible bitch baby antics! Just because you're talented doesn't mean you can treat people like shit. 

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  4. Posted

    5 hours ago, Cameron H. said:

    That and the “Tune/Toon Squad” call were points brought up on the boards (which Grudlian already corrected, and in all fairness, could easily be a case of parallel thinking). The only reason I’m not more annoyed by this is because both points were made by new posters. That’s not to say it isn’t less wrong or annoying, just that I don’t know them and maybe the people who wrote the posts also called in to double their chance of getting on the mini? I’m not saying that’s what definitely happened, but I don’t know them at all, whereas if it were someone like you or Taylor Anne or another regular, I’d know for a fact you wouldn’t do that.

    Still, in cases where the same point is brought up, I do wish they would give the edge to the boards—or at the very least, to the person with the most panache. I mean, it took the Tune Squad caller 30 seconds to ask what the person on the boards asked in 14 words and an image, yet he didn’t actually add anything that made his stand out. I mean, I totally get we can all (including and definitely myself) get verbose on here, and I love hearing/reading everyone’s point. And if you’ve got a good insight, joke, or hook at the end of it all, I’m all in. But if it’s a pretty basic observation without any flair in the writing/telling, and it’s not relevant to the point you’re making, I really don’t need your name, rank, and serial number. “Why “Tune” not “Toon?” (Four words 😜) is totally sufficient. 

    Again, while I don’t exactly hate the phoned in C&O’s, I definitely prefer the written ones. In my opinion, they just tend to come across as more well-thought out and encourage a community that exists outside of just the show. It becomes a discussion rather than regurgitation.

    In my opinion, as long as we’re allowing phone calls, my preference would be to only use the calls that are truly original. This would eliminate any suspicions (rightly or not) of “that was ripped off the boards!” It also gives the call more of a reason for being outside of just being, “It’s the exact same point, but it makes the episode more dynamic.” 

    I worry about sort of the opposite thing. I worry that as new people on the boards they may feel discouraged by their "work" so to speak, being overlooked in favor of calls that essentially day the same thing. Especially when, as you mentioned, often the people who are on the boards tend to write the questions/ observations on a more engaging and interesting way than how the callers phrase things. I think part of that is due to the general awkward nature of leaving a voice mail message but also partly because I think on the boards we take out time and can really go at a subject. I don't know I just feel like sometimes on the boards we are more passionate and interested in the subject.  I don't mind the calls I just think that we have some really good content on here and I love it .

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  5. Posted

    On 2/15/2020 at 2:11 PM, Cameron H. said:

    I find it a bit disconcerting just how unquestioningly eager Jordan’s kids were to aid and abet Bugs and Daffy in stank basketball shorts larceny. I know they’re fans of the toons and all, but that’s really not an excuse. I mean, I’m a huge Beatles fan, but if Paul McCartney were to a break into my house at two in the morning to steal my father’s shoes and underwear, I’m going to call the motherfucking cops. Hell, Bugs and Daffy don’t even tell the kids *why* they’re stealing Michael Jordan memorabilia until they’re halfway out the door. 

    Honestly, how much of a fuck up of a father do you have to be that your kids will gleefully give up your most prized possessions at the drop of a hat?

    At the*very* least I would have some more questions and need to get said parents before being ok with sentient cartoons stealing from my family. 

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  6. Posted

    On 2/14/2020 at 8:11 AM, Smigg. said:

    So, let's carry on the discussion.  What sports did you do?  

    I did:
    - Rugby, I played prop forward as well as an all encompassing "as soon as he gets the ball, fucking twat him"
    - Football, (actual football, not the armoured rugby football), I was a goalkeeper
    - Cricket, where I was labelled by one trainer "The most aggressive batsman I have ever witnessed in my 20 years coaching this sport"
    - Various throwing sports
    - MMA, I didn't ever get to fight because of injuries, but I know some stuff
    - Muay Thai, see above

    Does Quizbowl count as a "sport" ? Technically there were Jr and Varsity teams!

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  7. Posted

    On the topic of Pinocchio asking his dad to make him a girlfriend ( would that also make her his sister?) I think he kind of has to go with Geppeto's Real Doll service because can you imagine having to ask a human woman , honestly any partner, to (as June would say "take on" all Pinocchio's shit? That's just cruel. Better to have him meet someone else who understands some of his shared traumas. Or I don't know, crazy idea, maybe now that your human spend time with your family before you go off to fuck an American Girl Doll store, you hornt up freak of sorcery. 

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  8. Posted

    So who exactly is Gepetto making all these puppets for? Is there a booming puppet/ marionette economy? Like besides that one evil puppet rival who is he selling to?. I feel like he's  either hoarding those puppets in his shop and if anyone tried to buy one he would have an emotional breakdown or something OR he's a crazed old man who keeps making puppets to fill his sad emptiness  and frankly  because there's no fucking SSRI 's in this world and I'm not even sure Lexapro could save this fucker. Like even of he didn't seem to be deeply depressed or ... Something, no sane well adjusted person had that many puppets and he honestly has them for no reason which is even wose. Like he's not a puppeteer. He just.. Makes them and that is a truly terrifying hobby even without *vague gesture at everything going on with this mess of a man* 

    Honestly is Gepetto alone terrifying? Like we all agree he has to notify people when he.moved into their neighborhood right?

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  9. Posted

    All this talk of pinball leads me to the only fact on pinball I know which is apparently it was illegal for a while because people thought it was gambling? 

    From Wikipedia "Pinball was banned beginning in the early 1940s until 1976 in New York City.[41] New York mayor Fiorello La Guardia was responsible for the ban, believing that it robbed school children of their hard earned nickels and dimes.[41][42] La Guardia spearheaded major raids throughout the city, collecting thousands of machines. The mayor participated with police in destroying machines with sledgehammers before dumping the remnants into the city's rivers"

    There's also a pretty interesting Slate article about it. Apparently it was banned in Oakland until 2014?!

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/atlas_obscura/2015/05/29/pinball_was_banned_in_new_york_until_a_single_miraculous_shot_convinced.htm

     

    this and I was always very confused by the rock opera Tommy I sometimes listened to with my grandfather as a kid.  I'm still not sure what exactly was going on there, I was very busy eating my Friday McDonald's ( we traditionally got McDonald's every Friday)

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  10. Posted

    Who exactly was this movie for? Like what age group were they hoping to get? Because it's pretty horrifying so I don't think young kids would be able to handle it. Much like the evil owner of Pleasure Island they lured them in with the promise of a fun time with harmless J.T. T but then did a switcheroo and boom it's the story of a terrifying puppet and actors only your parents know. You cannot tell me other children were raised on Absolutely Fabulous vhs tapes (God bless you grandma and your insistence we watch what you wanted. Though maybe it isn't good that  7 year old me wanted to be Patsy ..)  And knew Dawn French on sight. I'm willing to buy they  maybe clocked Rob Schneider because he was on SNL but I would assume the target audience is too young for that?  

    So who is this for?  Nostalgic parents who yearn for the terror of the cartoon? ( You cannot tell me that shit wasn't scary) 

    Kids old enough to handle it but not so old they find it boring? 

    What is that age?!

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  11. Posted

    1 hour ago, Cameron H. said:

    While it all looked like fun and games, even if those boys on Pleasure Island weren't polymorphed into a bunch of donkeys, Recreational Water Illnesses (RWIs) are a real thing and if after drinking a pint of unfiltered amusement park water the worst thing they experience is diarrhea, they can count themselves lucky. Even when properly chlorinated--which I'm guessing 19th-Century tween boy Bacchanalian nightmares probably are not--public water parks are notoriously unsanitary. You can catch anything from Legionnaire's Disease to the norovirus all due to the fact (as the CDC points out) that even with proper wiping, the average person is walking around with about 0.14 grams of fecal matter tightly lodged within their sphincter. So when you enter the water, get splashed, or are otherwise soaked to the bone on one of those wonderful flume rides we all love so much, all that fecal matter diffuses into the water. And while chlorine certainly does help, it can't always take care of *all* of it. So, no, I don't recommend drinking any of the strange water spouting from amusement park fountains.      

    As an adult I shudder to think about the amount of water park water I have ingested in my lifetime.I assume that is how you get modern day cholera. Forget poisoned wells that are also sewers, wave pools are the new breeding ground for monstrous disease.

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  12. Posted

    1 hour ago, Cameron H. said:

    While it all looked like fun and games, even if those boys on Pleasure Island weren't polymorphed into a bunch of donkeys, Recreational Water Illnesses (RWIs) are a real thing and if after drinking a pint of unfiltered amusement park water the worst thing they experience is diarrhea, they can count themselves lucky. Even when properly chlorinated--which I'm guessing 19th-Century tween boy Bacchanalian nightmares probably are not--public water parks are notoriously unsanitary. You can catch anything from Legionnaire's Disease to the norovirus all due to the fact (as the CDC points out) that even with proper wiping, the average person is walking around with about 0.14 grams of fecal matter tightly lodged within their sphincter. So when you enter the water, get splashed, or are otherwise soaked to the bone on one of those wonderful flume rides we all love so much, all that fecal matter diffuses into the water. And while chlorine certainly does help, it can't always take care of *all* of it. So, no, I don't recommend drinking any of the strange water spouting from amusement park fountains.      

    As an adult I shudder to think about the amount of water park water I have ingested in my lifetime.I assume that is how you get modern day cholera. Forget poisoned wells that are also sewers, wave pools are the new breeding ground for monstrous disease.

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  13. Posted

    1 hour ago, DrGuts1003 said:

    Gigi, clearly you are just way too sensitive.  The people of Tuscany not only see nothing wrong with the story, but absolutely adore it.  So much so, that they even created Pinocchio Park.  According to a Tuscan tourist site "The legacy of  Pinocchio’s teachings is kept alive by the Fondazione Nazionale Carlo Collodi, 'promoting, since 1962, culture of children and for children, starting from the world famous literary masterpiece for children, The Adventures of Pinocchio.'

    If you’re staying at one of our villas in Tuscany with pool, kids (or adults) with a deeper interest should visit Collodi. This small town whose name the author adopted is close to several of our villas near Lucca.

    Collodi’s Pinocchio Park celebrates and retells the story with monuments, mosaics, a maze and water features."

    Here is the website to see all the attractions and things to do at Pinocchio Park.

     

    (And jk about being too sensitive; this story is nightmarish)

    I had a mini anxiety attack about the fact I called in to fix a mistake and I made a mistake and I'm currently working on if I should call again to fix it. We can all clearly see I'm too sensitive!

  14. Posted

    1 hour ago, DrGuts1003 said:

    The studio must have really thought this movie was going to be a bigger deal than it was.  I was reading an article about it written back in 1996 where the director, Steve Barron (who also directed the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie) says that it took two years just to get the songs rights.  Stevie Wonder wrote and performed two songs for the movie.

    I also discovered that this film actually had trading cards.

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    Not surprisingly, the majority of the cards seem to feature Jonathan Taylor Thomas despite him being in the film for less than five minutes.  And for those of you who are thinking this is the only way to get an Udo Kier trading card, you would be wrong.  He is also featured in trading cards for Barb Wire, another HDTGM classic.

     

     

    Hmmm no card of The Photo I see...

  15. Posted

    I cannot stress how much this fucked up monstrosity  WAS WRITTEN EXPLICITLY FOR CHILDREN. Normally most original fairy tales were stories originally told for adults. Not Pinocchio! It was published in one of Italy's first weekly children's magazines Giornale per i bambini .  ( Google translate tells me this means Newspaper for children) This was for Kids!!! Lynching, cricket murder, burning off Pinocchio's feet, being turned into a fucking donkey and abused and overworked to death by a farmer.... This is just your average late 19th century addition of Highlights y'all!  This movie had no chance but to be a monstrous horror show ok?! PINOCCHIO IS THE DEVIL'S CHILDREN'S BOOK DO YOU HEAR ME

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  18. Posted

    5 hours ago, CaptainGeech said:

      Something I don't  think ever got explicitly address is that, I believe the Cricket  was suppose to be dead and we were seeing his ghost!
    This is not a reach for a  Jacob's Ladder scenario, however one element of the source material that never got mentioned was that (in the source material)  when Pinocchio meets the talking cricket who warns him about being disobedient, Pinocchio throws a hammer at him and kills him. 

    In the movie, when Pinocchio comes across the cricket there is a line to the affect of: "Ow, watch your step" (or something) that is said just off camera. Then we see the cricket with this weird ethereal glow around him that's never explained.  I believe it was a subtle nod to the original story without having to definitively say, in a kids movie, that the cricket died.

    I was at the live show. A great time as always!

     

     

    In the original book Pinocchio kills him with a hammer as you mentioned and his ghost does pop up 

    "Poor Pinocchio! I really pity you!"

    "Why do you pity me?"

    "Because you are a puppet and, what is worse, because you have a wooden head."

    At these last words Pinocchio jumped up in a rage and, snatching a wooden hammer from the bench, he threw it at the Talking-Cricket.

    Perhaps he never meant to hit him, but unfortunately it struck him exactly on the head, so that the poor Cricket had scarcely breath to cry "Cri-cri-cri!" and then he remained dried up and flattened against the wall. "

    The fairy has her servants fetch Pinocchio from the tree after he is hung and calls three doctors, A Crow, an Owl, and what I can only assume is the Talking Cricket's ghost?

    "And you—have you nothing to say?" asked the Fairy of the Talking-Cricket.

    "In my opinion, the wisest thing a prudent doctor can do, when he does not know what he is talking about, is to be silent. For the rest, that puppet there has a face that is not new to me. I have known him for some time!"

    Pinocchio, who up to that moment had lain immovable, like a real piece of wood, was seized with a fit of convulsive trembling that shook the whole bed.

    "That puppet there," continued the Talking-Cricket, "is a confirmed rogue."

    Pinocchio opened his eyes, but shut them again immediately.

    "He is a ragamuffin, a do-nothing, a vagabond."

    Pinocchio hid his face beneath the clothes.

    "That puppet there is a disobedient son who will make his poor father die of a broken heart!"

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  19. Posted

    So I actually spoke at the lie show AND I WAS WRONG. I felt so bad I called the Paul help line to correct myself. I told everyone that they were turned into donkeys for their skin. But I  thought I had mis-remembered.  Only boys who don't study get "donkey fever" . And only Pinocchio was going to be turned into a drum because he ended up breaking his leg ( as a donkey) in a circus and being sold to a guy who wanted him for his skin for a drum.  So I go to double check and now I'm more confused than ever.  Because it looks like I found a short story called Donkey Fever . 

     

    I usually listen to the episodes and look things up that I want to talk about and somehow found this.  So then I went back and ended up reading the chapters in the original book. It turns out that I was sort of right and sort of wrong?

    So the Coachman basically lures children to ToyLand where they get Donkey Fever from not studying and being good. This is apparently his business model. He then sells the former little boys. ( When he meets Pinocchio and his friend Candlewick he fucking bites a donkey's eat off but pretends he's giving it a kiss? HOW DO YOU FAKE A KISS FOR BITING A GIDDAMN EAR OFF!!?) Pinocchio is then sold to a circus where he breaks a leg or something to that effect ( the book says he goes lame) while performing. He's THEN sold to the man who wants to turn him into a drum and that man throws him into the sea.

    And Candlewick you ask? Well I have the 1916 version which isn't as hard core but apparently he FUCKING DIES FROM BEING OVERWORKED AND ABUSED . 

    I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH HOW THIS WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN FOR CHILDREN IN A CHILDREN'S MAGAZINE

     

    Should I call again and apologize for calling in very late and tried and messing  yet again? Should you guys just start a shame bell walk for my lack of clarity! I'm normally so precise on research!

    ( Tbf at the show I had a really awful time with the theater management and if you saw two women having panic attacks on the lobby that was me and my friend hi!)

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  20. Posted

    I know that it's late but because of the Spirit of Christmas (or as I call it Horny Ghost Inn) I wanted to recommend one of my favorite books that takes place at an inn during Christmas and has slight mystic tones .  I should mention first off It's not written for adults though It's a lovely book. It's in that weird category where it's not exactly young adult fiction but it's definitely not small children fiction and saying junior fiction sounds oddly dismissive. The book is called Greenglass House. Here's how Goodreads describes it:

     "It’s wintertime at Greenglass House. The creaky smuggler’s inn is always quiet during this season, and twelve-year-old Milo, the innkeepers’ adopted son, plans to spend his holidays relaxing. But on the first icy night of vacation, out of nowhere, the guest bell rings. Then rings again. And again. Soon Milo’s home is bursting with odd, secretive guests, each one bearing a strange story that is somehow connected to the rambling old house. As objects go missing and tempers flare, Milo and Meddy, the cook’s daughter, must decipher clues and untangle the web of deepening mysteries to discover the truth about Greenglass House—and themselves"

    It's a fun little read and I recommend it if you just want a cozy story for a few hours. 

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  23. Posted

    13 hours ago, Johnnyunusual said:

    Am I the only one distracted by the three theme songs of the film?  In order, they are (according to wikipedia): "M.A.S.T.E.R. pt 2" by Play, "Master of Disguise" by Vitamin C, and "M.A.S.T.E.R. Pt. 1" by Hardhedz.  Strangely, I thought it had more because it felt like there were quite a few montages (including the end credits, which seemed to be a deleted scenes dumping ground) in the film where at least one is played.  They all pretty much feel really similar in sound and in aggrandizing our hero so it took me a bit to realize there were different ones throughout.  Anyone else have any thoughts on the "theme" songs for the film?

    Also worth noting: according to imdb, Dana Carvey made this because it was g-rated and he wanted to make something he could show his kids.  I wonder if he ever did?

    Yes!!! I was confused why with all the Master of Disguise songs they went with the Fun for the opening song. The music seemed very odd and off putting. It was all over the place and didn't match the tone of the scenes a lot of times. They also replayed several songs with different people singing them. It was very disjointed.

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  24. Posted

    21 hours ago, Cam Bert said:

    So this is a minor thing but I think the Bo Derek costume was a bad idea. The opening scene reads "Palermo 1979" and you have Bo Derek dressed as her character in 10. Prior to 10 Bo Derek was in one movie, Orca, so she was a virtual unknown at the time. 10 did break her big into the public consciousness but 10 came out in October of 1979. Based on my research while I couldn't find an exact date for Italy most European countries didn't even get the movie 10 until February of the following year. Running around as Bo Derek from the movie would have been the same as running around as a generic beautiful blond. There is no way anybody in Italian would have know who she was or cared about Bo Derek from the movie 10 in 1979. The fact that Brent Spiner's character knows that it's Bo Derek means this movie either starts in November or December of 1979 or he was a big fan of the movie Orca and was looking forward to her next role.

    This is another example of why they are clearly not real Italians. They would know that the latest American movies would get to Italy later in the year #FakeItalians 

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  25. Posted

    3 hours ago, theworstbuddhist said:

    Over the years it's been dumb stuff I can quote and laugh at like Megaforce (still waiting for that episode to air!), Baseketball, and Hot Rod. Lately it's been the Netflix film of To All the Boys I've Loved Before.

    If you like To All The Boys I've Loved there's a WILD rabbit hole you need to fall down based on the actor who plays the love interest! His dad reportedly bought his way into Hollywood and may have used money stolen from investors from awful movies to do so. The first video on the movie in question is insane in and of itself and worth a watch too.

     

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