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  1. Someone in the episode mentioned that Olyphant's drunken speech to the dead woman seemed like it was a reshoot, done for the benefit of the audience who were probably lost by this point. This almost had to have been the case if Dudits wasn't supposed to have been an alien until the second version of the movie ending was shot. Paul even mentioned that in neither the book ending nor the original movie ending was Dudits supposed to have been an alien. I would bet that after the movie was assembled, someone said "Look, we have to add SOMEthing to help the audience understand what's supposed to be happening. And Dudits turning into an alien is going to seem a little too left-field unless we try to set it up in some way."

     

     

    He does go directly from, "Maybe he's not from this planet," to "I CAN'T BELIEVE HE'S AN ALIEN"

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  2. I'm glad they mentioned the toothpick bathroom scene, but come on, where's the peanut butter??

     

    QUESTION: I get that Jonesy walks with a limp because of the car accident, but why does he also limp when he's within his memory warehouse??

     

    To your last point, YES. I wondered the same thing! That's insane. Corporeal injuries shouldn't apply in mental spaces.

     

    To your first, it occurs to me that maybe they put that in to set up that Beaver doesn't give a FUCK about germs, and that's why the bathroom floor-tile (without the assblood) isn't a deterrent to the Beav.

     

    It's a stretch, but not as high-stakes as the one from that toilet seat to that tile.

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    An isolated cabin like this probably only has well water and a septic tank, basically a closed system, not connected to a public water or sewage infrastructure. The well might be part of a public aquifer, but that may not be enough to accomplish the mission.

     

    Also this is a movie based on a work of fiction... :)

     

    I'll go you one further -- Homeland actually TELLS Beaver that the shitweasel now had "nowhere to go but the septic tank." So, definitely a closed system.


  4. Also, to the comments that Duddits should have defended himself as a boy: Duddits wasn't an alien in the book or the original screenplay as I understand it, so the alien reveal is tacked on, but they didn't think to change anything else about the movie.

     

    I had a flashback to when this came out in theaters. I remember going to see it because the ending to the book had kind of lost me, thinking, "Well, maybe the movie will make sense of it and then I'll go back and read it again." Realizing in the theater that they had dumped the original ending made me feel a lot better for hating/not understanding it, but also, it is truly striking how much of the book made it into the movie. Beat for beat, the book swings from plot to plot in exactly the "wait, what?" fashion that the movie does. I just sat there saying, "Yup. Yup" to the person who came with me who couldn't believe this was all the same book.

     

    What I picture now is someone pitching the story Menahem Golan style, where they're just talking through what happens in the movie, but constantly reading the room and jumping off whenever they think they're losing somebody. "And these four psychically bonded friends... (losing them, pivot) go into the WOODS and are marooned in their cabin (losing them, pivot) no, TRAPPED in their cabin, by the army (losing them, pivot) ... who are hunting down ALIENS (a ten-year-old walks in) THAT COME OUT OF YOUR BUTT." Not that that's how this came about, but it's fun to think about.

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  5. Can we talk about the Blue Unit Chatecism (AKA "The BUC for all BUCcos") for a second? Morgan Freeman asks his soldier if he knows it, then runs him through it:

     

    Q: Is Blue Unit regular Army?

    A: No, boss, better, boss.

    Q: How does Blue Unit operate?

    A: Under the radar. We do not salute. We do not display rank. We do not say "sir." We are a force unto ourselves.

    Q: Regular Army, compared to Blue Unit...?

    A: Pussies, boss.

    Q: Under what rules does Blue Unit operate?

    A: Rules of combat.

     

    Is Blue Unit Training Camp just learning a shitweasel-ton of pat routines? How often do they have to say that shit? Clearly, it's just a fuckerow for the sake of exposition, but this isn't the only kind of Q-and-A routine Freeman enacts in this movie, which makes it seem like a defining characteristic of Blue Unit is being off-book for this kind of stuff.

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  6. Really? More so than him taking a tooth pick off the bloody shit covered bathroom floor of a forest cabin and putting it in his fucking mouth?

     

    Um, helLO, he went for the ones on the CLEAN tile. If he had been willing to have a bloody one, he'd still be alive (because he wouldn't have had to move his butt off the toilet seat.) /5starreviewlanguage

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  7. (I will still defend Demolition Man in any conversation, about or not about Demolition Man, about or not about movies.)

     

    It should go without saying that I am over-the-damn-moon that this is finally happen. I've been on about this movie for a while. Last night, I watched it for the first time since seeing it in the theaters, and I think it will at least become an annual tradition. I can't think of another movie that takes so many 90-degree turns, almost all of them supplied by the source material. Other than the ending, this movie was lifted almost right from the page. You know how Jason always talks about having to rewind a few minutes? That's what reading Dreamcatcher was like for me. I kept going five pages back, wondering what the hell I'd missed. Also, like everyone here, I kept marveling at how many things about the movie I'd forgotten, including the batshit ending.

     

    Jason Lee with his finger in the peanut butter jar reminded me of Puck. 'Member Puck?

     

    I had totally forgotten that Damien Lewis was in this movie. His beard makes his mouth look so proportional that my wife wouldn't believe me that it was him. I loved him in this, though! He went full-tilt, and I love it.

     

    Stephen King can describe what a buttweasel fart smells like incredibly well.

     

    Those of you who bought the DVD -- is there a commentary track? I would happily buy the DVD if it meant I could listen to Lawrence Kasdan explain himself.

     

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  8. I've had so much stuff going on that I just now finally started watching this movie...and I've realized something...

     

    MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE!

     

     

    This was the movie I saw asa kid, and was told, not just by my mom, but by the tv info, that it was the original Mannequin movie...not the sequel. I was lied to!

     

    Please excuse me while I go curl up in bed with a pint of chunky monkey and sob for twelve hours.

     

    The best therapy for you, I think, is to watch the One True Mannequin, which is so much better.

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  9. Oh! Two last things I keep forgetting to bring up:

     

    Garbage trucks aren't just garbage pails on wheels. That truck is a compactor truck, and the garbage people scoop them right into the part of the compartment furthest away from the dumping part. Even if they do have an override that prevents the compactor from squashing the Arnolds, getting them back out is a real problem.

     

    Letting Jessi use Jason's employee charge card is a fireable offense. She's not listed as an authorized user, she doesn't have ID that proves she's Jason -- that employee blatantly ignored the rules for a commission (that probably isn't that great, given the discount on the merchandise) and should be FIRED.

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  10. I actually enjoyed some of the 1990's comedy moments in this movie.

     

    But one concern I had was the "morning after the amazing first night" cooking scene.....it just upset me on so many levels. I don't know if it was for comedic effect or what, but it just made me nauseous and angry.

    Him putting the sausages in the toaster, putting the O.J. in the microwave, vacuuming the seeds off of the cantaloupe, and the death knell for me was crunching the eggs in the sifter.

    So goddamn gross.

    Then he DROPS IT ALL AFTER SEEING SHE TURNED INTO A MANNEQUIN!

    I also got frustrated at him for not realizing at that moment that maybe it was the necklace that did it.....I think I got a bit too invested into the movie.

     

    I second the annoying "wackiness" of this scene, which fits into the whole maybe-he's-supposed-to-be-Parker-Lewis-or-something thing someone mentioned before (look how wacky with that rustbucket car, brushing while driving and washing his mouth out with Sprite!). Eggs through a collander might work but there's nothing efficient about it, sausage would burst into flames in a toaster like that, a Dustbuster would possibly short out vacuuming up the wet seeds, the cantaloupe would be left with no seeds but probably residue from around the spout of the Dustbuster, and spooning frozen orange juice concentrate into cups then microwaving them would get you a microwave covered in gross orangey mess, not two perfect glasses of orange juice.

     

    To cap it all off, his mother walks into the bedroom and the first thing she says isn't "LOOK AT THE FUCKING MESS YOU'VE MADE IN MY HOUSE THAT YOU LIVE IN RENT-FREE YOU MANNEQUIN-SEXING MONSTER."

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  11. On my second listen, I noticed that one of my earlier observations was actually in the show (edited it out), but also that June's thing about those weird dancers was never fully addressed. I had the exact same thought as she had, that at first it was some kind of weird funky hip-hop thing, but that it was so weird that they carried it over to the slow dance, in such a posture that each of those dudes were just bent at a right angle, resting their heads on the boob of their partners -- UNSETTLING!

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  12. Did anyone else have to freeze frame the ending to see who exactly was in the backseat of the getaway car? Gail and Andy were in the front seat, which is all fine, sure. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Mr. James and Jason's mom were sitting in the back. In the end scene, Jason gives Jessie a non-cursed necklace (hooray!) in the store with Meshach there, then they exit the store to get in the car. The 2 sycophants are outside to bid them adieu, but Mr. James is not with them, because he was already in the car apparently. I wonder if he was supposed to get together with Jason's mom? Because now that I think about it, what was even the point of Mr. James going to the match making service? Was it supposed to be a meet cute? We're gonna need a director's cut to get to the bottom of this.

     

    Also, the actor who played Mr. James was also the voice of the dad in the tv show Dinosaurs!

     

     

    The two sycophants, by the way, have the most awkward interaction off in that corner while the credits start rolling. Watch it happen -- they cannot figure out whether they're supposed to hug, hold hands, be people, anything. I couldn't take my eyes off that corner, it was so weird.

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  13. Correction and Omissions:

    Very simple and it applies to both Mannequin films. How are these wooden mannequins still existing after a thousand years? Like someone dug up a relic of from the middle ages, realized it was a wooden lady, and just thought, "oh I'll donate this to a mannequin supplier"? Seriously, who was passing down these mannequins over the years???

     

    The first one was manufactured in 1987 by Andrew MacCarthy, in the mannequin factory. It was sold to Prince & Co. She doesn't become a mannequin in Egypt, she dissolves into the ether, leaving a pile of rags behind. One reasons that the gods she begged to decided to transport her soul to an era where women had more of a say in their own lives (although there's not much by way of explanation as to why they'd then make her a mannequin whose attention could only belong to one dude, that's basically just another arranged marriage.)

     

    The second one became a legendary treasure of the kingdom, and was on display since the curse was put on her. Many nations have treasures that they've put effort into preserving, and not all of them are objectively valuable.

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  14. I missed this post originally but I might have an answer for this moment as well. Gayle liked Jason pretty immediately and he told her he wouldn't even go on a date with her because that was basically moving too fast. Jessie comes up and naively tells her she slept in his bed and Gayle makes this assumption so she's like, "THIS FUCKIN GUY WHAT AN ASSHOLE," and then just out of curiosity asks how the sex was. Cause gosh that could have been her dammit! She even says, "If you don't mind my asking," which is a pretty respectable way of starting that kind of conversation lol.

     

    Weeeeellll he technically demures by saying he's looking for "true love," not that he moves slowly once he finds Kristy Swanson true love.

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    It had to be the little sister, right? Otherwise they were just playing with our emotions introducing that character and I know these filmmakers wouldn't treat their audience that way.

     

    Edit: Just to be clear I mean after the sister reached legal age in H-K. Which I think is 25.

     

    I thought of that, but didn't say it, because I didn't think about the idea that he might be diabolical enough to wait that long before seeking a new mate. Also, if that is true, then eww, because that would mean that Jessie and Jason were related.

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  16. This violates the 24 second rule that made this movie possible but I am curious about the power of curses by the Hauptmann-Koening royal family. The queen drops the really convoluted "1000 years OR until she meets a true love from another land" off the top of her dome and bam that is how things are. Then Prince William says "you've cursed this land for 1000 years" or something like that. He didn't deliver the line like he was the one laying down the curse, just like he was passing along information. But if not from him where did that curse come from?

     

    I'll also add that we do NOT, unless I'm mistaken, get to see the rain curse lift itself. Why would we see the modern queen of H-K without seeing H-K's resolution? I think we need a director's cut....

     

    Maybe this is the land of Nanny Nanny Boo Boo-style curses, where it's open play on curses. Like, if someone says "I'm rubber and you're glue," that person becomes rubber, and you become glue. Blake Shelton, confirm/deny, please!

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