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5 hours ago, subject117 said:A few thoughts…
To be fair, in the club bathroom, Ginger is the one who shoves Stan against the wall and starts kissing him to shut him up. But then they're both super into it.
Talking about all of the “hacker stuff”, it’s like somebody watched the movie Hackers and said, “Hey, it’s six years later. Let’s just do all of this, but not try at all.”
How is the woman outside the bank when she explodes? I thought the building was the perimeter? And why does that goon take her out of the bank in the first place? It's never established that there's a hostage exchange or anything.
Also, “This will all be over before you can say Cat in the Hat”?!The hostage was taken out to basically allow the news crews and onlookers to see that the mercs were serious and the danger that people were in. It's basically playing up to what Travolta was talking about in his opening monologue, which was in a way disingenuous as you hear Tom Cruise's cousin basically telling her not to worry and it's going to be okay, as he had no intention of hurting her and this was all for the cameras. As for the bank being the perimeter, I have to assume that there was a grace area outside the bank for them to be able to do this walkout, so maybe it went up to the property line next to the sidewalk outside the bank, but by forcing her halfway into the intersection was way past the line and then ... KABOOM.
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This movie needs to be done if only to discuss the zombie Chinese deli scene that makes the zombie fish scene in Death Spa look tame and reserved.
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On 8/12/2020 at 3:00 PM, Cameron H. said:Episodes that they've recorded but haven't released are: 2:22, Abraxas, Holy Matrimony, The Visitor, and Governor Gabbi. Like Paul said in the Mini, they like to store them up in case they're unavailable due to filming. Back in the day, I want to say around Secret of the Ooze, there were times when they would go a month and a half without an episode. I like how they bottle episodes now.
Regarding Swordfish, I've heard from three separate people in three separate places that it was due to working with Don Cheadle on Black Monday. They all said that during the Q&A at a live show that they wouldn't release it while he was still on the show. That being said, Paul sort of dismissed that idea on last week's mini so who knows? I'm inclined to think it was somewhere in the middle. It wasn't exactly forbidden by Cheadle, but more of a professional courtesy from Paul and maybe people read that as more dramatic than it actually was. If you follow them on Twitter, they seem to have a good rapport, and Cheadle definitely has a sense of humor.
Besides, as I am currently watching Swordfish, Cheadle is far from the problem in that movie. I sincerely doubt any of their jokes were directed his way.Â
Yeah given that Cheadle is really on-screen maybe 15-20 minutes of the movie and is actually good in it, I think it went more towards courtesy than say The Smurfs was done and Jayma Mays got made fun of quite a bit in the episode, only for her to show up on The League for a couple seasons to play Paul's love interest.
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10 hours ago, Smigg. said:Regarding Travolta's little bikini wax goatee. They were hip in the early 2000s, plenty of dudes had them, I called it the Nu-Metal goatee.
Or as I heard Tom Segura called it in order to describe Doc Antle from Tiger King, a "flavor saver," which is how I will always refer to it as from now on.
8 hours ago, DrGuts1003 said:What exactly would Travolta's plan have been if Jackman doesn't use the rocket launcher to blow up the helicopter? It seems like he is gambling a lot on the fact that this hacker will not only get the idea to use a rocket launcher, but will have good enough aim to hit the helicopter.
Furthermore, what exactly does Travolta gain by faking his death? If he has the wealth to be such a Master of Disguise (btw, does Travolta use Energico?) then it doesn't seem like it would matter if he was alive or dead because no one would recognize him. And the fact that Jackman is still alive and now against Travolta means that Don Cheadle and the FBI would likely either ask or force Jackman to hack back in and get the money back that Travolta stole.
I think that's why they had Vinnie Jones make such a spectacle of loading the launchers onto the plane and his whole suppository speech to one of the hostages in front of Jackman, so as to very crapily incept the idea into his head for later. As for removing the funds after the fact, that was one of the three alternate endings to the movie, where when Halle Berry goes to confirm the money in the account, only to find it all gone, having been sent off to various charities by Jackman, in what I'm sure was another inspiration for Money Plane.
Slight correction regarding Holly's teacher, when she asks about the mom Holly makes mention that she is stuck in traffic and will be there shortly and the teacher believes it but tells her she'll be inside if Holly needs anything.
It's amazing that Hugh Jackman had a career after 2001 as after X-Men came out he did three films (Someone Like You, this, and Kate & Leopold) that all were critical misfires while the last two films barely broke even at the box office, which is a bit of the reason he was hired for this one as the reason Cusack and Kilmer weren't selected for the role was the creators of the movie felt that they "brought too much baggage" from their previous films and because Jackman really only had one big movie before this and it was a huge hit, he was a better option. His career was only saved by X-2 coming out in 2003, though he followed that up with Van Helsing and X-Men: Last Stand, so again it's amazing his career has been going strong for as long as it has.
In regards to the bomb vests being worn and the damage done by one of them, Travolta is right in saying that they are the world's biggest Claymore mines as it follows the basic build of ball bearings packed around C4, but the damage was so underdone based on the description given. A standard Claymore has around a pound and a half of C4 packed into it and the steel balls are more in line with what is used in a BB gun, around 700 are put in to the mine, which are used as the force of the explosion causes them to deform into a shape akin to a .22 bullet as the steel the balls are made of are soft. Given the description used by Travolta of each vest containing 20 pounds of C4 and 15 pounds of stainless steel ball bearings, that four way intersection should really be a crater and those ball bearings should be tearing people to shreds five blocks over as the energy output has been multiplied 10 times over.
The other thing about the vest is that when that first one goes off, how in the every loving fuck did at least not one more not get set off by accident inside the bank?! Having handled electric dog collars before, I know they have a hair trigger in order to be set off, and actually lost feeling in my arm for about 15 minutes after grabbing it off the ground by the battery, so the shockwave from that blast should have started a chain reaction. Hell even Jackman admits that the explosion did something to the bank's internet network which caused his trick to drain the bank accounts to happen an hour before he hoped it would, so those bombs should have popped one after another and leveled the city.
As for why they went into the bank rather than just over the phone lines, I have to assume it was part of Travolta's over-complicated misdirection plan with hte actual Gabriel's body, because there is no other reason for them to put themselves in direct conflict with authorities when they really don't have to. Finally I get Berry's reasoning for going topless in order to get over her fear of on-screen nudity, as her next film was Monster's Ball where she had a fairly long and graphic sex scene with Billy Bob Thornton.
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9 hours ago, GrahamS. said:I would agree that Wood’s character is WAY too weird and desperate in the first half, but also think it’s a really good performance. It gives the film some surprising emotional weight.
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It's definitely good but it also re-affirms my disdain for e-boys/influencers, it was also really well done in how his discussion about a choice he made regarding his well being was the impetus to push McHattie towards outright hatred given what is revealed about his past later on in the movie. It's a puzzle piece that makes it click so much better.
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Rewatching the movie and forgot how eurotrash the fashion and music was in this movie. I also have a lot to say about the bomb vests the hostages were wearing as they were way more than equivalent to a Claymore mine.
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This one really stands out like a sore thumb in this series as if you were to ask which below mid-level actor should play the fourth version of The Crow, I would think a doughy Edward Furlong would be at the very bottom of that list. It doesn't help that with the makeup on he looks like a goth kid who is doing Crow cosplay while yelling at his mom that "this isn't a phase!" or that his name is Johnny Cuervo. Then you add on the fact that they have to kind of alter the story of what the Crow was in order to fit within the setting of an Indian reservation and that Furlong is resurrected almost immediately after being killed to fight people named after the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, only to show they work for Dennis Hopper who I can only assume took the role to pay off alimony to any number of his ex-wives.
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I was pleasantly surprised by this as the trailer was a rare case today of not giving away the whole movie in two minutes. Wood is so very punchable in the first half of the movie and McHattie is great as the dad he's looking to reconnect to who for some reason has done a 180 on wanting Wood anywhere near him. Definitely some wince inducing moments in this but overall a great movie.
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23 hours ago, Cameron H. said:I don't know that the intention is ever to make a bad movie, as I honestly think that would be a waste of everybody's time. However, I think there is maybe an idea of not caring all that much if it's any good -- if such a distinction can be made. For me, I'm on Andrew Lawrence's side here. I think he was trying to make the best movie he could given the resources afforded him. Ultimately, he made a movie and you can't beat that experience. Even if the finished product wasn't particularly good, he can still spin that in his favor. ("Yeah, but I can do it. Plus, I made it quickly with a nothing budget. Think of what I could do with more.")
I was doing some catch up on the Last Drive-In with Joe Bob Briggs and the movie he was covering that episode was One Cut of the Dead, which is a fantastic subversion of zombie movies, and he gave this speech about the term "aspiring film maker" and why that or film school should not exclude anyone from wanting to make a movie or their passion project. It was a fantastic speech that really should be watched by anyone who ever thought of making a film.
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FUCKING FINALLY!!!!!
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9 minutes ago, Smigg. said:Â
Especially when you have Paige, who had to retire from a similar issue aged 25, and they insist that she's never gonna come back, and Edge came back aged 46, every bump he takes makes me wince a little.
Then again, every time someone jumps off the ropes and lands on their feet, I still cringe because of the Sid Vicious injury.Yeah that's in my top five and it still amazes me that Jim Cornette wasn't even more injured when he fell directly onto his feet from the raised scaffold during the Road Warriors/Midnight Express Scaffold Match. But in all fairness a guy as big as Sid has no business getting anywhere near the turnbuckle to do a jumping maneuver.
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5 minutes ago, Smigg. said:Â
Edge basically went to WWE and said "I want to come back, and if you don't want me, then I'm going to AEW, either way, I'm getting back in the ring".
Which is fine he feels that way, but when your neck is basically held together by bolts and a prayer, you really need to consider your well being and what your family will live with if the worst happens in the ring. I mean Edge is a student of the business and has seen what happens to the guys who stick around past their expiration date in the ring. I mean I've met veterans who could barely move after sticking around or had such horrible Parkinson's that their signature was basically a squiggly line, so it was odd to see him make that same choice after basically making as clean an exit as you could in wrestling. I get the WWE wasn't going to give their newest competitor a huge bullet to fire back at them and I like how they've done their best to protect Edge in all of this, but even then wrestling being unpredictable like it is , can always have dangerous outcomes, as shown by Edge's most recent injury.
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1 hour ago, E.Lerner said:This question is probably exclusively to Smigg: Would Dean Ambrose/Jon Moxley been a better lead for this? I've not seen any of his film performances, but he struck me as the only choice for Nada if they were going to make They Live with a current wrestler.Â
And it speaks to the movie's tonal confusion that Edge didn't get to do much wrestling or comedy despite being the main character. It was honestly sad seeing him floundering up there as the straight-man; if the movie had actually leaned into being a Fast & Furious spoof, he might have had a chance to flex some of his natural charisma. Â
If anything Moxley has shown he's horrible with any script given to him, and works better when speaking with a looser leash. His acting performances were all pretty wooden and probably would have been worse than Edge outside of doing more in the fight scenes as he's still in relatively good health. He could have worked as Nada as that rol is really made by the physicality of the character and being able to fire out one-liners which he'd be great for.
21 minutes ago, Smigg. said:Â
I think the problem with Edge was that he was too close to a comeback, and probably didn't want to risk aggrevating his injuries, which is why you didn't see too much action from him, and probably shot around him. But, you're right, he'd have been more suited to a comedic role.
In terms of them casting a wrestler in the role, maybe someone like the former Wade Barrett. He's believeable as a tough-guy fighter, but also has that "cool" look about him to fit into the heist genre. That being said, if June thought Edge was too big, the even bigger Wade Barrett would be even worse for her.
I'm honestly surprised that they were able to get the two matches that they did out of Edge in this most recent run, considering Edge's neck is in such more precarious condition than someone like Daniel Bryan who came back after years of physical therapy and improved brain scans. Though it's understandable considering the matches Edge had were filmed over the course of hours and edited down before broadcast, so they could work at a more even pace than if they were in front of a live crowd.
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2 minutes ago, Smigg. said:If it turns out he's sitting on Mortal Kombat: Annihilation...
Recently re-watched it with friends who have never seen it, but I couldn't find my double movie DVD of it and the first film, so we went to Youtube where someone made a playlist of the movie that was over 30 clips long. It cut out the bullcrap exposition parts of the film like talking about the gerbil balls in the crust of the Earth and Raiden pleading for mercy from the Elder Gods, and is mostly just the fight scenes. Some of the scenes are dubbed over in Russian as well, and it was still a much better viewing experience than watching the original cut.
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Another game I would have loved to seen played out was from an old Tales From the Crypt episode where two rivals play cards and whoever loses the hand loses a finger and then toe before moving on to other limbs. Was a pretty good episode and had a good amount of tension in the game because the risk was clear and understandable to the viewer.
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3 hours ago, Smigg. said:I watched a "Where are they now" thing about them. The original two guys who started were arrested in Thailand (I think), for stealing body parts, and then trying to mail them back to the US.
Just makes you wonder what goes wrong in these people's lives to turn out like that.Nothing you said in that second sentence sounded off brand for those guys. As far as what goes wrong, couldn't tell you for the last six years I've been working with guys who made worse choices and more than half the time they have no clue why they've done some of the dumb shit that got them behind bars.
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5 hours ago, Smigg. said:Â
Funny thing about that guy in the Dr. Phil interview is, he wasn't one of the creators. He basically screwed the guys who started it, and took it for himself.
You mean a guy who paid homeless dudes a pittance to beat the piss outta each other might have been a shrewd thief? Say it ain't so?!
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2 hours ago, dmitryb said:I don't know why Jason, June, Paul could not recognize Thomas Jane. He's been playing a very odd-looking character in The Expanse - complete with a fedora, a comb-over hair, and some distinct body language.
https://www.google.com/search?q=thomas+jane+the+expanse
It's a pretty compelling role, and a memorable character in the show (and a memorable look). I'm not surprised Thomas Jane keeps visually changing himself for other roles. He's been at this for a while.
Him and Aaron Eckhart have been doing this a lot recently, and usually in their direct-to-video/streaming movies, I'm thinking to try and hide that they are actually in the movie in the first place, to the point it makes me wonder if they just aren't the same guy trying to see which version will be a hit actor, failing at both, and now stuck doing twice as many shitty movies. Jane has always had that kind of slurred talking out of the side of his mouth speech pattern which makes him come off as either a stroke victim or incredibly drunk, but man this one really took the cake with how far he pushed it.
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15 minutes ago, Smigg. said:All of this talk of people betting on things that are morally wrong just reminded me of something.
Anyone else remember Bum Fights?You mean the series made by guys involved with Dr. Phil completely jumping the shark as a legitimate therapist?
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Got a big order in from Amazon today and was reminded of a fantastic series that finally came out of hiatus from Image, Manifest Destiny. It's about the real reason for the Lewis & Clarke expedition after the Louisiana Purchase, which is focused on cataloging the strange creatures of the land such as killer plants, centaurs, and plants that take over a person and turns them into zombies, among other things. The writing is great and the character building of the crew, which is made up of expendables in both soldiers in trouble with the army as well as prisoners looking for a quick shot at freedom, and the art is fantastic. It took a bit over 18 months for the most recent volume to come out from the last, but that can tend to happen with owner created stuff, especially with Image where the writers and artists tend to get signed to exclusive deals from the big two which causes them to put their great self-owned series on hold for an ungodly amount of time.
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6 minutes ago, Cameron H. said:I think it’s safe to say we were all a little disappointed in the games offered on the Money Plane. Out of curiosity, what kind of depraved attractions were you hoping would be featured on board?
Man v. Man gladiator fights
Man v. Apex predator (tiger, shark, bear, etc.)
Going back to my original comment in this thread about Andy Lawrence basically cribbed a bunch of ideas from other movies, the one he kind of failed at stealing from the most was the direct-to-DVD third film in the Hostel series. That movie is set outside of Las Vegas and in this version people aren't really paying for the ability to torture someone, they are betting on how they will either die or how long it will take. One guy the bet is how many arrows it will take to kill him and another I think was how many pounds of live bugs would he have to ingest before dying. It wasn't bad given that the movie was a rush job for the straight to video market, but the games offered in that movie were a hundred times better than what was in this one.
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1 minute ago, The_Triple_Lindy said:I think they are wearing ponchos, though ... you can see them when they enter screen from behind McGillicuddy ... they just needed face shields, too, I guess.
That's what I meant to say, as I was thinking of the one my guide gave me on the VIP tour for Universal Studios, basically saved my phone from being destroyed on the Jurassic World ride as the biggest wave of water I've ever seen on a ride is dumped on the car you're in about midway into the ride, while everyone else in my group was beyond soaked.
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3 minutes ago, The_Triple_Lindy said:Or even like the audience at a game of Russian Roulette
Even there they were ill prepared as evidence of the woman's face covered in the middle Lawrence's blood when he shot himself under the chin, you really need a plastic poncho like they sell before some water rides in order to get the best protection.
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2 minutes ago, Cam Bert said:Too small and it becomes like where's waldo trying to find it and too high and it's gauche.
If it's a .22 you may as well not even bother for both spray from the victim and the hole left in the canvas, if there even is one. You want something like a .45 at most, especially if it's a larger canvas, that way you have a hole to tell a story about and a good portion of the canvas is "painted." You use something like a .50, especially from something like a Barrett, then you're just going to destroy the canvas and your lackey will look like the crowd who went to one of the first Gallagher shows and didn't know what the Sledge-O-Matic was.
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Trailer Talk
in How Did This Get Made?
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Hey not for nothing, but this movie has a higher Rotten Tomatoes score than both of the first two films combined at 67%. Granted the first film was 60% and the second film is sitting at a luxurious 0%, but it's still higher.