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But I own the wand in which the patronus comes from so whatever don't give me that Liz Lemon eye roll

Which is why I said except for the rape because it's horrid that that is how dolphins attack humans and that does warrant some anti-dolphin conversations.

As a proud owner of a dolphin patronus I will not stand for all of this anti-dolphin talk (except for the dolphin rape that is bonkers and horrible). Who even started making us choose??? Can't we be team all sea creatures cause the ocean is amazing???

Ohhh yes! I saw this based on a recommendation from a friend! I wanted soooo badly to like it but alas it just didn't get there for me, but now I'm excited to talk about it with y'all!

Put me down as a maybe right now. That'll be a busy weekend for me and I have no idea if it'll all start on that Friday or not.

That's really interesting that you've never heard that outside of this podcast. My friends and I use that word all the time, before this podcast even started. Tumblr back in like 2010 taught me what a trope was and that's when I started getting into discussions about them. I promise that most writers and film/tv critics use that word constantly lol.

Nicole needs to have Jason on "Why Won't You Date Me?" immediately now.

I would very much like it if Nicole and Jason could start their own podcast where they go see movies in theaters together and then rewrite them with more sex scenes. 10/10 would recommend. 5 stars on iTunes.

Also the Netflix original "To All The Boys I've Loved Before" has an Asian American lead actress as a romantic interest and she isn't turned into a fetish! As Kulap said on Who Charted, it's "Asian August!"

Speaking of weekly winners, does any have a spreadsheet - or know of any place - that has all of the winners? I stupidly haven't kept track of how many I've won and kinda wanna be narcissistic and brag about it lol.

Guess who didn't know she won the week until this moment

This is just gonna drive me crazy that this dude did this with a literally unneeded character now lol. Cause Kelce is just another way to spell Kelsey!!! The "e" denotes pronunciation!!!! Good god I haven't even read the book and I hate it.

....They literally spell Kelsey two different ways on the same page.... I can't.....

Story time: I was out with my friends (Hi Paul, I caught you looking at my insta-story! Excuse me while I die of embarrassment that it was my HS reunion!) and while we were at dinner there was a TV that showed a trailer of The Meg, and I commented on how ready I was to see it because it looked hilariously awful. My friend has asked me what it was bout and I told her it was about a Megalodon that came back to our time period. She then said, "Huh, this sounds like a book I accidentally read in high school. I picked it up because it had a shark on it and I wanted to read about sharks and then suddenly there are a ton of sex scenes." She kept describing things about the book and finally it clicked with me and I yelled, "Oh my god that's this movie! You accidentally read the book this is based on!" We had a good long laugh about how 12 years later this book gets made with Jason Statham and we immediately decided we have to go see it together. We haven't yet because we both work full time and she's in grad school but I'm hoping this long weekend will give us the opportunity. I just love that one of my friends as a teenager could find this in our high school library and expect a normal book about sharks and get so many sex scenes lol.

I would agree with your definitions there. I wouldn't put SotL in the horror category but I get why some people would. I think a lot of it also boils down to what scares people. Earlier I mentioned that I thought Nightcrawler could border those two lines because Jake Gyllenhaal is genuinely terrifying in that movie. It's a real world movie but our main character is legitimately a monster, so in my mind it could easily go from thriller to horror if it wanted to. Recently I saw someone put What We Do In The Shadows on a horror list on Letterboxd and I got really confused because out of all movies I would wholeheartedly say that is NOT a horror. Just because it is about vampires with a werewolf cameo doesn't make it any less of a comedy, more so than Shawn of the Dead even! Now that one still has horror moments that I could see people put that onto the list but WWDitS is strictly comedy in my mind.

I think you might have misunderstood his point. Even in the ones you gave as an example there are still fantastical qualities trying to harm the protagonists. e.g. giant shark, masked murderers, hooded murderers lol.

I think if you like A Girl Walks Home and Let The Right One In then you would find enjoyment in The Ring. It's definitely got flaws that I noticed more as an adult, but in my opinion it's a really really well made horror movie with some legit scares. I haven't even seen the original Japanese version yet cause I know that will be just as terrifying to me now as The Ring was when I was 13. Also on the recommendation side of things I think you would enjoy The Tale of Two Sisters from South Korea. It got remade here as "The Uninvited" but the American version was literal shit but the Korean version is amaaaazing. Very psychological with some good scares as well.

Yes! There are sooo many horror categories! Slasher, torture porn, supernatural, etc! Like I haaaate torture porn with a fiery passion but I still consider myself a big gigantic horror fan! Do you like The Ring at all? That's another one from the early 2000s that I love and scared the SHIT outta me when I was younger. Legit thought I would die after 7 days just for watching that movie lol. I also think that psychological thrillers can border that line too, like Black Swan mentioned in this episode. Now that is one that has scary elements to it but I would absolutely not count it as a horror because they are more trying to fuck with your head rather than outright scare you. I put The Invitation and Nightcrawler into that category as well, but even psychological thrillers could theoretically get put under the horror umbrella if you think about it too hard lol.

That's a really interesting qualifier that I hadn't considered before but in more recent years there have been some films within the horror genre that have come out where our protagonist is actually the one doing the most damage/the "monster." The three examples I can think of are Raw (French) and A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night (Iranian) and Let the Right One In (Swedish). I would probably say that the middle could be considered not a horror film but IMDB still has that as one of it's two genres. I wonder if this is like a European thing where the monsters of our nightmares get stories where they end up being the ones we cheer for in the end? ETA: OH! And The Others! That's probably a horror movie that can be directly compared to Sixth Sense due to its similar twist ending. I also loved that movie lmao.

I believe that horror has different subsets just like any other genre has. Not all comedies are the same and neither are all dramas, but I definitely wouldn't put either Crimson Peak nor Shape of Water into the horror genre just because it has supernatural elements to them. But I still would put The Sixth Sense into the category because even in the drama sense of it I still find it rather terrifying. It's terrifying as a mother to not have any clue what's happening to your child and then find out he can see dead people, and it's terrifying that a mother would have the ability to kill her own children for attention. It's not just the ghosts that make this scary in my mind, it's the real world aspects as well. I compare it a lot to The Witch, which a lot of people got PISSED at because they said "nothing scary happens," but in my mind the unnerving aspect of watching this family turn on each other and lose themselves to the witch is absolutely scary. Jump scares shouldn't be what makes something into a horror film imo. But with Get Out specifically, Jordan calls it a horror film so I think that out of that no one really gets to tell the creator otherwise.

Also, to the point that Bruce only effected the temperature at the end, wasn't Haley cold in the hospital when he told Bruce about seeing dead people? Did I imagine that you could see him shivering as he said it?

I definitely agree that the randomness is convenient. But I would also argue that a lot of the times we are following Bruce Willis or seeing things through his perspective. Usually we only see Haley's perspective when he sees other ghosts. In that sense I would say that if Bruce's idea of things is that he is very much alive then the audiences would be too. Like if he thinks he is changing his clothes then we think he is changing his clothes, and he had his wedding ring on the whole time until the very end when his wife drops it and he looks down to see it's no longer on his finger. I think that a lot of the work to convince the audience that he isn't dead is simply because we follow him around and he has no idea himself.

But could it be that the rule of ghosts in this movie is that it's random?

I guess this is when it really does come down to personal preference and belief ya know? Cause I'm totally opposite and usually the ghost movies with one type and a strict set of rules are my least favorite. I'm way more into the randomness of it all because that's what makes it so scary to me.