Cameron H.

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There were so many silly Judd Nelson one liners in this movie, I really think he may have made it for me. Not only did he have the great "hotdog" line that Jason brought up, but in the same scene he delivers what I felt to be the best line of the movie, "You floss too much, man, and your gums will bleed." However, the one line that yanked me by the ear and hurled me bodily out of the movie came toward the end. Steel has been caught and is laying prone at Nelson's feet. Nelson wheels out Gish and says, "The difference between you and me: I'd kiss her sorry crippled ass goodbye, and worry about myself." The problem with this line is, in context, it makes absolutely no sense! Steel was neither trying to escape, nor did he need to be drawn out into the open. Furthermore, how are Steel's options any different from what Nelson's would be in the exact same situation. He can either fight back, which would most likely result in both he and his loved one dying, or he can, I guess, just stayed surrendered?--which would also probably result in her death. I mean, at this point in the movie, Steel has, for all intents and purposes, been soundly defeated and seems perfectly content to patiently wait out the rest of the movie out from his vantage point at Nelson's feet. The only reason a villain would ever pull this out of their bag of tricks is for leverage, but he doesn't need it! Steel has been caught! He's lying at your feet dummy! The movie is over! You don't need Gish there at all!

Holy fuck! I just finished Steel and all I can say is... But, in all honesty, I'd be lying if I said this movie didn't deeply resonate with me on some level. Like when SWAT busts in to capture him, and I--hand to God, sitting alone, and watching this stupid movie on my phone--cried out, "Her souffle!" Also, did the producers of the X-Files see Annabeth Gish in this and think, "Yahtzee! She's just the person we need to ruin the final season of our show!"

Now THAT'S what I'm fucking talking about! Thanks, Anonymous Coward! Your bravery has been duly recorded in the annals of Internet history--forever.

First of all, thank you Ellen M for being the only one around here with any guts But seriously, I get that. I definitely had a crush Marian. I'm trying to think of some other good ones...Lady Jaye and Cheetara are too easy and not embarrassing enough. Maybe, Gadget from Rescue Rangers... Oh! Hey! What's that dlo burns? Did you have something to add? Uh-oh... Welcome back! I think you're over sexualizing it. Neither Ellen M nor I are saying, "I want to fuck a cartoon fox, right now!" We're saying, that when we were young, innocent, and sex wasn't even a thing, we thought they were pretty dope. We've since grown out of it into healthy, well-adjusted adults...which, according to your "spoiler," is apparently something not everyone is capable of doing. Yikes!

Yeah, I'll give you Get Shorty. It goes back to that good material, good director thing again, though. I don't think it was here, but I agree that it should be done. More Christian Slater! Now! Now, now--we're not here to judge, but to share our quirky, super deviant cartoon fetishes.

I saw that one! That would have been good! I'm not on Facebook, but I do lurk their page from time to time just to make fun of all the silly, "If I Q'd in a cup, would you drink it with your A?" nonsense, and I thought that your's would definitely be read. On a side note--I saw someone posted a question about me, which I found to be incredibly flattering even if it was meant as a joke. But to answer your question, I'd say: Paul--Dialed Up June-- Error 404 Jason--Hard Disk Jockey Once we get through these, can we do their rapper names?

I had a Holiday Party at work today, so as you can imagine, rather than endure the torture that is fraternizing with my knuckle-dragging co-workers, I set my mind to who my favorite terrible movie star--and it was a lot more difficult than you'd think. As you said earlier about Cage, and something that I think can be applied to most actors, is given the right director and material, almost anyone is capable of turning in a good performance. The thing I can say about Cage is that we've all seen him act really well in tons of movies, so when he does go a little nuts, you know it's a choice he's making for that particular role and not because he's not capable of turning in a good performance. Do his choices always work? No, but at least he's trying to do something. So taking all of that into consideration, I'd have to say my vote for best worst actor has to be post-Pulp Fiction John Travolta. I think early in his career, Travolta was actually a...let's say, "decent" actor. Even if you just look at movies like Staying Alive and Perfect, he's doing the work. It's not like we don't like Tony or Adam because his acting is bad, it's because they are garbage people and that's what he's portraying. But sometime after Pulp Fiction, Travolta just seemed to have just thrown any speck of ability he possessed into the shitter and started acting like a goddamn Jon Lovitz character. His characters are so cartoonishly over the top, that I can't help but be entertained by him. That's kind of a bummer. Oh well, I guess that just gives us more time to talk about weird shit. For instance, she thought she was going to get away with it unremarked, but in the Hackers thread, Ellen M mentioned how Rankin and Bass's Santa Claus really did it for her when she was younger... Anyone else want to volunteer their weird cartoon crushes?

I 100% agree with you on the Nic Cage worship--I'm apathetic to him at best. I'm still into the new theme for the bit though, and I did like Paul's answer today. As for that other show you linked, The Flop House, is it any good? I hear it advertised all the time when I listen to My Brother, My Brother and Me, and not only do their jokes seem lame, but there's one dude's voice I just can't get behind. I'm sure he's a nice dude and all, but damn...I tried to give them a chance when Max Fun did the host switcharoo last month and they took over for The Adventure Zone, but I barely made it ten minutes before I had to shut it off. So I guess my question is: is it worth giving it another shot?

What was the Q? Maybe we can provide you an A...

Yeah, I knew he said in interviews that he was going to do his own take, but damn, he went way off the reservation. Also, isn't it weird that the trailer just kind of starts without any studio credits? I honestly thought I was watching a commercial for cologne or something when it first started. Also, thanks for pulling an anti-Force Awakens and give away a shit ton of the plot. I mean, I didn't expect to be shocked by anything, but they could have held a little bit back. I watch that trailer and I'm like, "Do I even need to see it now?" Batman and Superman's conflict doesn't even seem that interesting. It's also funny how DC films try to stay grounded in reality, but look ridiculous, while Marvel is embracing all it's craziness and makes things like the fight between Cap, Iron Man, and the Winter Soldier at the end of the Civil War trailer look brutal as shit.

Oh, Fuuuuuuuuck! I'm on my way. In the meantime, here's what you have to do: Happy Birthday!

I couldn't agree more. I never had any intention of watching it in the theaters, but was going to watch it when it came out on Amazon. Now--I'm not so sure I'm even going to do that. The whole thing just looks so doofy. Here are my Thursday discussion points: In Rankin and Bass' holiday classic Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, Hermey the Elf tells his boss he doesn't want to make toys, but would rather be a dentist, at which point his boss flips his motherfucking shit. After some light psychological abuse, his boss then screams, "Now, listen, you. You're an elf and you make toys!" and then adds "Now finish the job, or your fired!" but... isn't that what Hermey wants? Is the concept of being fired different for elves? Are they going to literally set Hermey on fire? Guys! Are the elves going to straight up kill Hermey?!?!? A couple other notes: Apparently, between Christmases, the elves go through something called "elf improvement" in which they "practice" being elves. Am I the crazy one or does that sound insane? Does this make me a terrible person? Because I can say with certainty that I've never been to a single "Human lesson." And finally, Santa is kind of a dick. The elves write and sing what is basically a laudatory psalm of praise for the big man in red and that motherfucker could not be bothered. Hey, dipshit, I know I may be risking a lump of coal here, but a simple "Thank you" goes a long way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbxcHVmdJos (I just introduced my son to this movie. It's been on non-stop. I have no one else to blame but myself, but seriously...Help me.)

Hell yeah! Happy Woden's Day, everyone! Fuck this movie! Well, good luck to you! I certainly hope you are able to use both this movie and forum as the bountiful resources they've been to help you with any essays you might have regarding Cyber Law. I only ask that you properly cite my posts. And please, for the love of God, you only have a limited time on your tests, so please try not to get so fixated on trying to figure out BB-8's mission that you forget everything you've learned this semester and freeze up. Oh shit, did I just plant that seed in your brain? Sorry about that...

Yes! How could they not mention such an obvious and rich vein of comedy. Then again, they only have so much time to record these things. I can only assume they figured that if they had opened the Pandora's Box that is "Elligson Mineral" and "The Gibson" this could easily have turned into a six-part episode. But seriously guys, can we stop talking about Hackers now? This place is seriously starting to bum me out.

There's been a couple of posts really taking the crew to task for the knowledge of hacking culture, and although I think Fister covered it pretty well, I'd like to throw my hat into the ring. First of all--unless the movie they are covering is about acting, comedy, or improv--you can be pretty confident that they are not going to be experts on any given subject. I certainly don't expect them to do hours of research, for their free podcast, to better educated themselves on any topic. In fact, they say explicitly in this episode that they are not computer experts, and I would guess most of their audience isn't either. If anything, take their ignorance as a point of comedy, kind of like how they tease June for her "areas of expertise", and not a reason to chastise them--this isn't Tech Talk with Paul, Paul, and Jason. Which leads me to my second point.... This is a podcast about making fun of movies--good and bad. Honestly, you need look no further than their Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat episodes to realize that they are judging the movie, not the subject matter. And while I respect the fact that for some people Hackers may be their favorite movie (Second Opinions is a HUGE bit in each of their shows, after all), you also have to recognize that what may be a formative movie for you does not make it an objectively good movie for everyone. For example, the reason it took them over 100 episodes for them to do Con Air and Face/Off is because Jason insisted they were "good" movies, but they did them in the end, and I'm sure Jason's opinion of them hasn't changed a jot just because they covered them on the show. As for me, my very favorite movies are all movies that I routinely rip on. To echo Fister, you may need to lighten up a bit. No one is being personally attacked. In my opinion, they steered pretty clear of making fun of the act of hacking and more on how it was visualized. I think their conversation regarding gender fluidity had less to do with their being against it, and more because it is a choice the movie makes that it makes no effort to explain and seems to be internally conflicted with. For example, characters wearing clothing that crosses traditional gender lines is presented as being both no big deal and the punishment for losing a bet. If that's not cognitive dissonance, I don't know what is. And in regard to them making fun of child hackers being arrested at gun point--yes, I get that has actually happened, and I'm truly sorry if this has ever happened to you or your friends, but the fact that it happens in real life, only makes the situation even more ludicrous. We should be making fun of that idea, because it is fucking absurd and should never happen. Do I expect you to laugh when they make jokes about it? No, I don't. At least, not any more than I expect someone to laugh at the Congo episode if they've ever had a friend or family member mauled to death by a killer gorilla. But just because, due to personal experiences, it's not funny to you, doesn't make the idea of it any less funny. I think the most important thing is to remember that your unique life experiences are not universal. Someone a couple pages back challenged the gang by saying, "What were you doing at 12?" and if I were to guess, the answer would certainly not be hacking, but honing their talents as comedians, actors, and writers. If you were hacking at age 8, that's great--for you. But to act personally affronted because their interests don't align with you own is a bit strange to say the least. How is bullying someone for not liking what you like any different from being ostracized in High School based on those exact same interests? As for me, this is the first time I ever saw this movie, and having no nostalgic feelings for it whatsoever, I found it fun to watch, but absolute garbage. For God's sake! There is a woman in this movie who wears Quicksilver gear just to highlight that she "surfs the web." How is that not crap? Anyway, Hollywood already depicted what a real hacker looks like to me a couple of years earlier...

No, I get that. I apologize, my reply was snarkier than I was really intending. There are movies of theirs that I've never seen because I don't think the reality could ever live up to the expectation (e.g. Winter's Tale) I guess it all really depends on the level of participation you want to have. For me, I like to hear how their viewing, and the viewing of those who post here, differs from my own. But, yeah, no big deal really. I guess I was just trying, in my own clumsy way, to encourage you to post your own thoughts of the movie if they were different from what was discussed on the episode.

There's a scene toward the start of the movie before Miller's first day of school where his mother is giving him crap about being on the computer all night. I believe she then goes into, I guess a bit--at least she seems to pretend to be on the phone with someone--and says into the phone, "Yes, he could be playing with himself. Yes, I'll ask. Dade, you like girls, don't you?" Umm...what the fuck is going on in this scene? Is she trying to puzzle out his 'bating schedule? Is she worried he's not jacking off enough? Regardless, if as a teenager either of my parents ever asked me this question, I would be beyond mortified. Besides, he's a teenage boy. If the door to his room is closed at all, there's a 95% chance that he is definitely jerking it--100% chance if he has a computer in there. However, this did lead to one of my favorite storming-out-of-the-room lines ever: "Right, Mom. And I'm still a virgin!!!!"

I believe this is the whole reason they do Corrections & Omissions on the mini's. You can't be too disappointed if they don't mention something that stood out to you. All of us are unique little snowflakes.

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if we are even supposed to like Miller's character. Like, we can all agree he's a piece of shit, right? For example, he arrives at the school, he's surrounded by people walking hither and yon, he looks around helplessly for a second, and then immediately goes right to a person (Phreak) talking on the phone to ask for directions to the principal's office. Calm your shit, dude. Why don't you ask one of the one hundred other people around you who aren't currently on the phone? Or maybe use that genius brain of yours to suss out that the school's office is most likely right by the main entrance we just saw you roller blade through.

Wow, until you brought this up I honestly could not remember how this movie ended. All I could remember was the neat little bow they tied it all up with--with them swimming in a pool on a roof somewhere. So well done. It was like the phone charger callback on a recent Netflix show. Also, since Paul plugged his guest appearance on the Worst Idea of All Time podcast, I'd like to go ahead and recommend Til Death Do Us Blart. It's a new annual podcast in which the guys from Worst Idea and the McElroys from My Brother, My Brother, and Me and The Adventure Zone review Paul Blart 2 every Thanksgiving from now until the end of time--the hosts only being replaced upon their deaths. I assume if you listen to either of those shows already you're probably already aware of it, but just thought I'd give it--and their other shows--a quick shout out.

Not to fixate on the sprinkler scene, but I did have another issue with it. If you are going to hack into the sprinkler system at school, and you wish to avoid punishment for doing so, wouldn't being the only dude standing indoors, completely dry, and holding an umbrella be a piss poor way of deflecting attention from yourself? I mean, I don't know much about hackers in the real world, but I would have to imagine, that in order to be a successful hacker, one would have to possess a certain degree of subtlety, nuance, and maybe even a little bit of paranoia that is inherent to their character--qualities none of the hackers in this film seem to have. There's a reason why a hacker group would call themselves "Anonymous." And this kind of flagrant disregard for discretion happens multiple times during the course of the movie. One of my favorite moments is when Double Smoker meets up with Phreak in Central Park. The scene opens with him nervously smoking on a fountain and pans out to about 15 feet in front of him where two suspicious looking characters are sitting on a bench. When Phreak shows up, Double Smoker just loudly launches into all their super secret hacking bullshit. He makes zero effort to lower his voice or even try to move the conversation to a more secluded area. What the fuck? Actually...you know what? Nevermind. You're right movie. If a person is being actively being pursued for committing a felony, they should absolutely ignore their instinct to be discrete and just shout the details of their crime over the din in a crowded public area.

I thought this line was meant to imply that, like his typing, his love making would be clumsy and erratic.

Here's something I found perplexing: When Miller and Jolie have their interaction at the cyberbar/skatepark they propose a bet--which, if Miller wins, will mean getting a single date with Jolie. As for Jolie, she says that if she wins, he has to be her "slave"--a stake, by the way, she never sets a time cap on. So...I guess if he loses, he's, like, her's forever..? Anyway, later in the film, when they up the ante of the bet, Miller tells her that if he wins, she will now have to wear a dress on their date. She then replies, "And if I [win], so do you." I found this incredibly odd since she doesn't really heighten the stakes on her own bet and basically capitulates on the whole "slavery" thing. In effect she is saying, "Win or lose--I'm going on a date with you." And since she doesn't say, "And if I win, you'll be the person wearing a dress, not me" she is also conceding, "Oh, and I'll be wearing a dress regardless. From here on out, this bet is strictly about how you'll be attired when we do go on this inevitable date." (I will concede that she could be saying that, as her slave, he'll be wearing a dress, but this is not how the scene is either written or acted.)

Are you kidding me?? Nerds are always the first people to rip off their shirts on a warm, Spring day.