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Episode 129 - The Apple: LIVE!

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"Sin" of omission:

 

This film was doomed from its very title, which needed a correction. It should not have been called "The Apple." In the Judeo-Christian Genesis myth, which takes place in the Middle East, the forbidden fruit is mostly likely a fig or pomegranate - you know, fruit trees native to the region 5000 years ago. It wasn't until the Renaissance that Western European painters started painting the Garden of Eden's forbidden fruit as an apple. So, the film should have been titled "The Fig." Not that it would have prevented it from being a trainwreck. But you'd think that the Israeli director would have known this.

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2) In The Apple song when they're trying to get Bibi to eat the apple, no one has mentioned that one of the background singers/dancers has two faces. He can be seen at 1:18 of the trailer; he's one of the people that says "Taste it! Taste it!" I know this scene is supposed to be hell, and that guy is only visible for a few seconds, but he freaked me out.

 

I thought those creepy two faced dancers were the only creatively successful thing in this movie.

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I love how they were excited for a second that the music was by George Clinton (Parliament founder and uber funk God- actually Parliament and Bootsy Collins would have fit perfectly in this movie) then realized it was by George S. Clinton.

 

George S. Clinton also did music for all three Austin Powers movies, as well as many, many other movies. Oddly, The Apple is not listed on his resume.

 

I imagine Menahem Golan in his velour track suit pitching it to distributors - "It will be very big! We have music by George Clinton!"

 

 

http://www.georgesclinton.com/

 

 

 

He kind of looks like Michael Mckean (Spinal Tap):

 

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Not to be confused with George Clinton:

 

 

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This probably has something to do with the archaic belief that "left" carries a negative connotation. The word sinister, for example, historically means both "evil" and "on the left side".

 

 

I think you are giving them way too much credit. I am guessing they ran out of glue, or horns. To think they actually put thought into number and placement location of horns boggles the mind. :)

 

I love the audience guy that asked, "Do you think when they had the production meeting.."

 

"No."

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I just want to mention something slightly sad in regards to the comments about Kesha. From wikipedia concerning her relationship with her manager and producer Dr Luke.

 

In October 2014, Kesha sued producer Dr. Luke for alleged sexual assault and battery, sexual harassment, gender violence, emotional abuse, and violation of California business practices over their 10 years of working together. She claimed that Dr. Luke repeatedly drugged her, with and without her consent, and that his abuse caused her eating disorder.

 

So, Kesha might be a real-life Bibi with Dr. Luke as her Mr. Boogalow.

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I would categorize this movie as obnoxiously boring. So much so, that there were times that I fell asleep through the loud, terrible musical numbers.

And what was with the lapels?

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How has no one mentioned the fucked up three face masks from the hell music numbers?! Those things were nightmare material.

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I think you are giving them way too much credit. I am guessing they ran out of glue, or horns. To think they actually put thought into number and placement location of horns boggles the mind. :)

 

I love the audience guy that asked, "Do you think when they had the production meeting.."

 

"No."

 

I thought only including one tiny horn (which looked like it was stolen from some little girl's unicorn plush) was a way of making the horns "go" with the rest of Bond Villain Dracula's costume. Or the right horn kept falling off and they were just like, f*ck it. Overall I LOVED the costumes, from the shiny thongs to the nun's habits.

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The actor who played Alphie, George Gilmour, starred in The Apple and then seemingly disappeared, never to act again. There's a thread on IMDB discussing this and how he might be the "George Gilmour" who was arrested for selling meth in the UK. They also found some pictures of him in a band from Scotland. The thread is worth looking at if you're interested, and in another thread someone claims that George lives near him and was an MC at a local event (in 2008).

 

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0319597/board/thread/11459548

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The actor who played Alphie, George Gilmour, starred in The Apple and then seemingly disappeared, never to act again. There's a thread on IMDB discussing this and how he might be the "George Gilmour" who was arrested for selling meth in the UK. They also found some pictures of him in a band from Scotland. The thread is worth looking at if you're interested, and in another thread someone claims that George lives near him and was an MC at a local event (in 2008).

 

http://www.imdb.com/...thread/11459548

I still think that he's porn legend Peter North, who also happens to be from Canada.

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I still think that he's porn legend Peter North, who also happens to be from Canada.

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Ryan Sz, you may want to keep your love for Peter North to yourself, that's the second time you've talked about his doppelganger showing up in movies. didn't even know who he was tell you pointed him out in the forums a show or so ago. :P

 

firsttimecallerlongtimelistenr, we both know, you could of done better in that picture of Paul in "The Apple", why no June and Jason. or bonus points for Andy Richter.

 

I think we all know who Jason would of played in "the apple"

 

 

2zyj408.jpgClearly Mr Topps, for the love of his white shirts. "come on you damn hippies, lets go to hippie haven, it's called woodstock and your going to love it!

 

 

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Lot of pointless winking in this movie wasn't there.

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I also wanted to add that Paul's intro to this ep was amazing. I was already listening obviously but he pulled me in and I was hooked. Andy was such a good guest too

 

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The scene that immediately follows the song that drives the word "come" into your brain a thousand times is where the king of the hippies wakes up Alphie on the bench, and during that scene the king of the hippies says "come" to Alphie no less than 5 times, including the phrase "come on, children". This is so upsetting and could have easily been avoided. He also describes Alphie as a "newcomer" to everybody, and just does his best to say "come" as much as he can in general.

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Ryan Sz, you may want to keep your love for Peter North to yourself, that's the second time you've talked about his doppelganger showing up in movies. didn't even know who he was tell you pointed him out in the forums a show or so ago. :P

I'm sorry but when it's right there, it's right there. If I'm proven right I expect a line of hands waiting to give me high fives. Also you should know who he is as Brian Taylor mentioned that he was on the short list of names for the porn star picket line in Crank: High Voltage, along with the "droppin' loads" guy and Max Hardcore, who was unfortunately in jail.

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The scene that immediately follows the song that drives the word "come" into your brain a thousand times is where the king of the hippies wakes up Alphie on the bench, and during that scene the king of the hippies says "come" to Alphie no less than 5 times, including the phrase "come on, children". This is so upsetting and could have easily been avoided. He also describes Alphie as a "newcomer" to everybody, and just does his best to say "come" as much as he can in general.

 

Uh did anybody else notice that when the hippie king tells the kids to go get breakfast, one of the kids totally bites it while walking off, completely ruining the shot, and they LEFT IT IN THE MOVIE?

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I knew I was in for something special when this movie started with a pastiche of the Eurovision Song Contest. As a European, it is without competition my favorite event of the year. Essentially, each country delegates an act to represent them and in the end, one country wins. Often the acts go to great lengths to be memorable, be it strange outfits or stage gimmicks. It makes a lot of sense for Israeli writers to use the contest as the setting for a story, as Israel had just won it two times in a row in 1978 and 1979.

 

Why it was supposed to be Worldovision is a bit beyond me. You would think it has to do with Bibi and Alphie being from Moose Jaw and representing Canada at the contest. That's not necessarily true. You don't have to be from a country to represent it at the contest. In 1988, a little known singer from Canada won the Eurovision Song Contest singing for Switzerland. Her name was Céline Dion.

 

The actual 1994 Eurovision Song Contest was won by Ireland, with a song by Paul Harrington and Charlie McGettigan called "the Rock and Roll Kids", a wistful, quiet song about the love for a simpler time with simpler music, not dissimilar to Alphie and Bibi's love song.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGAfONwvVdU

 

As for the question of where the movie takes place; according to the rules of Eurovision (and Worldovision by extension, one would assume), the contest would be hosted in the country that won in the previous year. So the real question is, who won Worldovision in 1993 and when are we getting that prequel?

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Also! CORRECTION:

 

People are very quick to point out that Bibi and Alphie have a three year old child after only being away from the world for a year, but what Hippie Beard Man actually says is "she's been living here for over a year". It checks out perfectly.

 

The real question is why it took BIM 'over a year' to find Bibi when these hippies were clearly just sitting around in a park all day. There's an earlier scene where BIM actually chases them out of the park, so they definitely know that's where they are. Did they wait for her to rack up "ten million dollars" in debt?

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I knew I was in for something special when this movie started with a pastiche of the Eurovision Song Contest. As a European, it is without competition my favorite event of the year. Essentially, each country delegates an act to represent them and in the end, one country wins. Often the acts go to great lengths to be memorable, be it strange outfits or stage gimmicks. It makes a lot of sense for Israeli writers to use the contest as the setting for a story, as Israel had just won it two times in a row in 1978 and 1979.

 

Why it was supposed to be Worldovision is a bit beyond me. You would think it has to do with Bibi and Alphie being from Moose Jaw and representing Canada at the contest. That's not necessarily true. You don't have to be from a country to represent it at the contest. In 1988, a little known singer from Canada won the Eurovision Song Contest singing for Switzerland. Her name was Céline Dion.

 

The actual 1994 Eurovision Song Contest was won by Ireland, with a song by Paul Harrington and Charlie McGettigan called "the Rock and Roll Kids", a wistful, quiet song about the love for a simpler time with simpler music, not dissimilar to Alphie and Bibi's love song.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGAfONwvVdU

 

As for the question of where the movie takes place; according to the rules of Eurovision (and Worldovision by extension, one would assume), the contest would be hosted in the country that won in the previous year. So the real question is, who won Worldovision in 1993 and when are we getting that prequel?

 

Wow, okay- when they performed I thought their song was sappy and terrible and was dumbfounded the audience turned around. I thought there was no credible way they could win that contest with a song like that. Real life is stranger than fiction. And I'm not insulting the singer from Eurovision, just surprised that a low key song like that could win. Nice find.

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Also! CORRECTION:

 

People are very quick to point out that Bibi and Alphie have a three year old child after only being away from the world for a year, but what Hippie Beard Man actually says is "she's been living here for over a year". It checks out perfectly.

 

The real question is why it took BIM 'over a year' to find Bibi when these hippies were clearly just sitting around in a park all day. There's an earlier scene where BIM actually chases them out of the park, so they definitely know that's where they are. Did they wait for her to rack up "ten million dollars" in debt?

Then why wouldn't he just say "they've been here for a couple years?" By saying over a year that usually is only referring to a short amount of time past the year. It's too vauge when all he could have said was the amount of time they were there.

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I am deeply saddened that, upon being asked to sing the Second Opinions theme, the audience did not chant: "Hey, hey, hey, Second Opinions on the way! Hey, hey, hey, Second Opinions on the way!"

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Wow, okay- when they performed I thought their song was sappy and terrible and was dumbfounded the audience turned around. I thought there was no credible way they could win that contest with a song like that. Real life is stranger than fiction. And I'm not insulting the singer from Eurovision, just surprised that a low key song like that could win. Nice find.

 

most of the songs that won the eurovision were ballads around that time. ireland have won the contest more times than anyone else and pretty much all our songs were ballads. but the contest expanded about 10 years ago and since then its gone crazy. and i mean crazy. it would fit perfectly into this movie. this nutball song won in 2006.

 

 

 

its a camp-fest like no other. ive never been a fan but alot of people love it. its very european .. its actually unvelievable the thing is still going ... i cant stress enough how nuts it is. i mean australia were in last years???

 

its also were riverdance originated way back in 1994 .... wait a miniute!!!!

 

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ireland have won the contest more times than anyone else and pretty much all our songs were ballads. but the contest expanded about 10 years ago and since then its gone crazy. and i mean crazy. it would fit perfectly into this movie. this nutball song won in 2006.

 

Of course, there was that tragic year when Ireland got completely robbed!

 

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