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Episode #245 - Money Plane

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Paul, June, and Jason discuss the 2020 action film Money Plane. They talk about Kelsey Grammer’s performance as The Rumble, not realizing Thomas Jane was in the movie, Joey Lawrence’s hair, the rules of Money Plane, and more.

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Having listened to the episode (the movie isn't out in the UK until September 7th), Kelsey Grammer clearly says "The Rumble", and it takes on a whole new meaning when you consider he said it to Adam Copeland, as we all know is WWE Hall of Famer, Edge (Not to be confused with "The Edge", That's the guitarist for U2).

Edge retired from the ring in 2011, due to injuries, having broken his neck and the resulting spinal stenosis.

However, in January of this year... Edge returned,  And, not only did he return, he was a surprise entrant in The Royal Rumble.  So, maybe Kelsey Grammer calling himself "The Rumble" inspired young Adam Copeland to make his trumphant return, and had wrestling fans around the world saying "No, not crying, not anywhere close to it, you're crying!"
 

 

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Jason is right when he said "Something happened to Thomas Jane", when talking about how he's aged in recent years.  Something DID happen, and we were all complicit in it.  Everyone in the HDTGM universe is responsible.  Paul Scheer, you have a lot to answer for, because you made it worse.

What happened to Thomas Jane?  THIS HAPPENED!!

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Those god-damned Shit Dicks did this to him.

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"Man Bun is so big, he's too big" - June Diane Raphael.

This goes to show you how insane the WWE was a few years ago.  Adam "Edge" Copeland is 6'5" and around 240lbs.  That was considered "average sized" in WWE.

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Fun fact about Edge, he has held the most titles in WWE history, holding 31 championships throughout his career.

4-time WWE Champion
7-Time World Heavyweight Champion
5-Time Intercontinental Champion
United States Champion
2-Time WWE Tag Team Champion
12-Time World Tag Team Champion

On top of that, he has won a Royal Rumble, a King of the Ring, and Money in the Bank.

I can't think of anyone better to rob a plane.

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As a bald/balding man who smokes a pipe on occasion and is severely disgusted by feet, this episode really spoke to me.

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30 minutes ago, Cam Bert said:

As a bald/balding man who smokes a pipe on occasion and is severely disgusted by feet, this episode really spoke to me.

As a man who may or may not work in a Casino and also hates feet - Same.

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Putting aside Joey’s fake hairline, the fact that Paul, June and Jason didn’t recognize Thomas Jane or that Kelsey Grammer clearly says his nickname is The Rumble (what the hell is a Grumble team!)…

the most upsetting issue is why the bookkeeper wore an earring so high up when he in fact has an available hole in the “normal” spot. It was soooo distracting!

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It was always 'The Rumble' not Grouch or Grumple....

I love Jason's hated of 'The guy on the ground' who is Andrew Lawrence the actor, director and screenplay writer of this movie.  When I first saw him on the screen I was intrigued  - then seeing he added both his brothers in supporting roles was just classic.   

Matt Lawrence being 'The Cowboy' was great and I actually didn't recognize him at the start.  I thought it was some Johnny Knoxville look alike.  

In the 3rd act where they are jumping off the plane I don't understand why they didn't have a larger wind machine for breaking the seal/pressure of the plane.  Money doesn't flow out at an alarming speed which it would.  As they jump it just seems the are popping off onto a mat below.

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Filming locations of this movie are shown as being only Arabi, Louisiana, USA on the IMDB. From that you know it is all classic shots of the stock footage of the airport, etc. 

From the dark shot at the airport with the Money Plane being boarded - it seems that they are taking off in the morning for a whole day of gambling?

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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE CRIME IN INTERNATIONAL AIRSPACE!

In researching "international air" and "committing crimes," you find that the same laws apply to international waters. One article, again more specific to crimes committed in International Waters, notes that "the simple fact is, no one lives in international waters forever. Once you reach the port, you may have to show responsibility for the crimes that you’ve committed. That is, if no one catches you before. So no, international waters are not technically no one’s land where you can do whatever you want." 

And as Jason brought up... what crimes were actually being committed on the plane? I mean the only illegal activity outside of gambling without a license, is The Concierge shooting a guy for cheating. Yes, we see people betting on how long someone will survive a snake bite or a pool of piranhas, but the act of those specific events are happening on the ground where laws will surely punish those perpetrating it!

Also Paul, based on your past experience... what were your feelings on the acting of the guy being devoured by Piranhas?

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20 minutes ago, PilotHaz said:

It was always 'The Rumble' not Grouch or Grumple....

I love Jason's hated of 'The guy on the ground' who is Andrew Lawrence the actor, director and screenplay writer of this movie.  When I first saw him on the screen I was intrigued  - then seeing he added both his brothers in supporting roles was just classic.   

Matt Lawrence being 'The Cowboy' was great and I actually didn't recognize him at the start.  I thought it was some Johnny Knoxville look alike.  

In the 3rd act where they are jumping off the plane I don't understand why they didn't have a larger wind machine for breaking the seal/pressure of the plane.  Money doesn't flow out at an alarming speed which it would.  As they jump it just seems the are popping off onto a mat below.

It was hilarious that they didn't realize the Lawerence Brothers were in the film based on it being written/directed by the youngest of them.

When I saw it, it reminded me I use to watch their show! What was I thinking! I was 17! Fuck my younger self! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HbD8Pxob-k

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25 minutes ago, pscudese said:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE CRIME IN INTERNATIONAL AIRSPACE!

In researching "international air" and "committing crimes," you find that the same laws apply to international waters. One article, again more specific to crimes committed in International Waters, notes that "the simple fact is, no one lives in international waters forever. Once you reach the port, you may have to show responsibility for the crimes that you’ve committed. That is, if no one catches you before. So no, international waters are not technically no one’s land where you can do whatever you want." 

And as Jason brought up... what crimes were actually being committed on the plane? I mean the only illegal activity outside of gambling without a license, is The Concierge shooting a guy for cheating. Yes, we see people betting on how long someone will survive a snake bite or a pool of piranhas, but the act of those specific events are happening on the ground where laws will surely punish those perpetrating it!

Also Paul, based on your past experience... what were your feelings on the acting of the guy being devoured by Piranhas?

Also to my knowledge, the plane is considered to be in the jurisdiction of the country its registered to, until it hits the landing strip of the country its going to. This money plane has to be registered to some country right?

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53 minutes ago, pscudese said:

It was hilarious that they didn't realize the Lawerence Brothers were in the film based on it being written/directed by the youngest of them.

When I saw it, it reminded me I use to watch their show! What was I thinking! I was 17! Fuck my younger self! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HbD8Pxob-k

I remember the show as well.. Brotherly Love - watched it myself as well. I think i watched it more for Liz Vassey though. 

Jason also mistakenly thought the snake bite challenge was 17 seconds but he guessed 17 minutes.   

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Another major issue I had with the movie construct, is that we are supposed to think this group of criminals are elite enough to take down the Money Plane, when in fact the only thing we are shown, is them failing miserably at a simple B&E.

Case in point, the first scene is man-bun's ID not working. How did that happen?! Why is he walking into the security office without a functioning ID. That is what you are leaving to the last minute? And another thing, the van is easily bugged so their video equipment shows them a feed where the painting is still there. These are a bunch of bumbling idiots and now they must take down a sophisticated money plane filled with the worst criminals. 

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31 minutes ago, SaraK said:

Also to my knowledge, the plane is considered to be in the jurisdiction of the country its registered to, until it hits the landing strip of the country its going to. This money plane has to be registered to some country right?

Also we see the plane is departing from a HUGE airport where they would surely have to register it with the TSA.

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So when the plane returns to the terminal, do you think there is ever an issue where someone accidentally leaves with your weapon. Along the lines of taking the wrong umbrella at a restaurant? Where is the filing system?! 

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Oh and why did the main hostess assume her staff are carrying firearms? I mean that feels like a HUGE safety issue if I were a passenger and could be killed by the flight attendant for asking for more warmed nuts.

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1 hour ago, pscudese said:

It was hilarious that they didn't realize the Lawerence Brothers were in the film based on it being written/directed by the youngest of them.

When I saw it, it reminded me I use to watch their show! What was I thinking! I was 17! Fuck my younger self! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HbD8Pxob-k

I wanted to roast them for not recognizing Thomas Jane but I didn't recognize Joey Lawrence. So, I guess I don't have any room to say anything. I did at least recognize Matthew Lawrence which is strange because I don't think I've seen anything he's done since Mrs. Doubtfire.

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I'm going to add Quiver Distribution to the list of winners during this pandemic along with billionaires and insider-trading senators.  I feel like they took advantage of the absence of movies in the theater to pretend like this would have been theatrically released.  Even before HDTGM covered it I was aware of its existence but that should never have been the case for a movie like this that should have gone straight to the $3 DVD rack at a gas station.

This movie is so stupid in so many ways but I think this one may set a record for how fast it gets there.  In the very first seconds of the movie in the voice over Man Bun is talking about the importance of having a good team by saying "It takes more than one flint to start a fire" and using it as if it is a well understood metaphor for a strong team with a diverse skill set.  It doesn't take a team of flint to start a fire it takes just two pieces.  And they can be identical.  Unless you are including the kindling and wood that gets burned as part of your team metaphor?

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The Ringer did an oral history on Money Plane: https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/7/14/21320061/money-plane-oral-history-kelsey-grammer

Asked 9 questions about it: https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/7/10/21319193/money-plane-questions-kelsey-grammer-the-edge-vod

And did an exit survey on it: https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/7/13/21322693/money-plane-review-exit-survey-kelsey-grammer-edge

Seems like this movie is getting recognition for all the wrong reasons! Good choice for the podcast.

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The trailer said it starred The Edge, and I was literally waiting for the guitarist of U2 to show up.

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Anyone else catch the final hand of Texas Hold'em, the dealer throws out 4 cards at the beginning vs 3 cards and then do a round of betting before the 4th is tossed out!

Just fucking sloppy! Guess it's no Online War!

 

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Because we did not see The Rumble actually get killed at the end of this film, I believe it is because they have plans for a sequel.  The film will be called Money Crane and it will involve Grouch blackmailing a new crew of criminals to steal a rare, expensive bottle of Chavignon Blanc that he and his brother Niles can enjoy at their next wine tasting event.

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So which one of these two is Thomas Jane supposed to be?

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