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Zouks is really good, and so is Rob Huebel. The rest.....not so much. Fortunately, Zouks is in A LOT of it.

And that's how a jaded mandarin will fuck you up over missing plums.

I really need to see a stage production of this because I feel like there's a really good version somewhere in there...but it's not this movie. I agree that Joel Grey and Brad Sullivan had much better chemistry than Jean Louisa Kelly and "Joe" McIntyre. And speaking of McIntyre, I don't think he closes his mouth for, like, 90% of the movie. He just stands there slackjawed the whole time, and I just kept thinking, "Close your fucking mouth, dude."

Jason is BY FAR the best part of it. He pretty much carries the whole movie.

Hey everyone! I'm easing back in from some time away from the boards, but I wanted to say: Jordan Knight N*SYNC Sporty Scary Ginger Posh Baby I hated Simon and Garfunkel until very recently Ravenclaw Neither Blur nor Oasis Dan van Kirk is the best.

With all this Spice World talk, I just want to point out that trivia was tonight, and one of the questions was which Spice Girl comes first alphabetically based on their first names.

The German pronunciation would be more like "Kroytz," but we're dumb Texans that call it "Krites." In fact, my German professor from college hates going to that place just because she can't stand what people call it (but she'll happily eat whatever we bring back).

Austin BBQ Corner for a second, y'all.... 1) It's definitely pronounced La Barbecue and not "L.A. Barbecue" 2) Don't stand in line at Franklin. Get someone to drive you out to Lockhart for Kreuz (pronounced "Krites") Market or Llano for Cooper's. They're both much better, and you can drive there, eat, and drive back in the amount of time you'd stand in line at Franklin.

I heard in an early draft of the script that he raced people for pink slips but then he was like...

2 appearances: Nick Cassavetes - The Wraith, Face/Off

Yeah, she's the one who shakes her head at about 0:10 in this video

The 45 times it played in the movie just weren't enough for ya, huh?

Also, this was me every time someone said Hanks' character's name...

Hey everyone! Sorry I've been MIA this week. I had a family emergency that kept me from being able to watch the movie until yesterday. But now I've seen it and have gotten caught up in the thread, so here are a couple of my thoughts: Regarding the Guy/Faye romance, I'm not on board. This seems to be the next day that she broke up with Jimmy, right? She breaks up with him after the show because he's being an asshole. Then they go into the studio to record the next day, which is when Jimmy quits. Guy stays and dicks around on the drums, and then Del Paxton comes in and jams with him. Then he goes back to the hotel. So it would be just a day after she's broken up with her dude. That's almost fucking predatory. I'm not a fan. Steve Zahn is absolutely great. But did he tell Diane Dane that the first time he jerked off was to a picture of her? He should call the Explanation Hope Line... And then there's Ethan Embry. So, this isn't related to the movie, but I have a story about him. About four years ago, he was at Fantastic Fest for the premiere of the movie Cheap Thrills. I should probably preface this by saying that FF is one of the chillest film festivals there is. It doesn't matter if you directed one of the really small indie films or if you're, say, James Gunn or Keanu Reeves (both of whom have attended several times). The general rule is that everyone treats everyone else the same. That's part of why people like coming to the fest. He rolled up in his car and parked it right in front of the theater, which was clearly marked as a no parking zone. Apparently, he thought it was valet because there was someone standing there (it was actually where they load and unload the shuttle vans that take people from their hotels to the fest). One of the volunteers told him that he couldn't park there and that it was a loading zone. He lost his shit, cursed them out, and pulled the whole, "Do you know who I am?!" nonsense. So he's basically dead to me, and I was glad that he disappeared about halfway through the movie and I like to think that his character died on that roller coaster.

Also, I want to say that I totally agree with Paul: that dude's Arnold impersonation is hilariously bad.

Totally agree. Creepy dudes need no encouragement.

Can I be your sidekick, Tiger Boy?

I wish he had signed it like he does all his tweets: "HANX!"

Sorry! Let me fix it: Buckaroo Banzai >>>>>> The Running Man and His Adventures on Earth

Maybe. But Buckaroo Banzai >>>>>> The Running Man

I've stopped even calling you Cameron. I just refer to you as "That Fucking Guy" now.

I love that smile at the end. He clearly does this kind of shit more to entertain himself than anything else, and that's totally why I love him. Also, if you don't follow his Twitter account, it's a strange kind of awesome. He mostly posts random clothes he finds on the street or him opening doors of random cars with the caption, "I'm so excited about my new car!" He's a ridiculous human being.

(I <3 Tom, too)

I think he was over Biehn by then. But also, I think even Cameron's script had Parker as a high school kid, so Biehn would have been too old. She liked Arnold a lot more in Hercules in Hew York, if I remember correctly.

Schwarzenegger wasn't attached to the project, but the rumor was that he was Cameron's pick to play Doc Octopus. The history of the Spider-Man script is crazy. Our old friends Cannon Films had gained the rights several years before Cameron's script, and the original Cannon script also included Doc Ock. Joseph Zito was the director originally tied to the Cannon project. His two biggest films at the time had been Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter and Invasion USA. Zito reportedly wanted Bob Hoskins to play Doc Ock. That version never got produced because Cannon slashed the budget (much of their finances were tied up in Superman IV and Masters of the Universe), and Zito walked. So then it got picked up by Columbia contingent on rewrites. Cannon Films had folded, and Menaham Golan had moved to 21st Century Films, bringing with him the rights to both Spider-Man and Captain America. The Captain America movie got made, and Golan started shopping for new Spider-Man scripts. Cameron delivered a scriptment to Carolco (who had produced Terminator 2: Judgement Day), and then he, Golan, and a few others developed it into a full screenplay. Allegedly, along with Schwarzenegger as Doc Ock, Cameron wanted Edward Furlong as Peter Parker and a pre-Titanic Leo DiCaprio as Harry Osborne Then Carolco, 21st Century, and Marvel all went bankrupt in the same year (I know it's crazy to think that Marvel wasn't the juggernaut it is now, but the 90s were a really rough time for them). Marvel reorganized and merged with Toy Biz to pull them out of their bakruptcy woes. Carolco and 21st Century's assets were bought out by MGM, which would include the rights to the Cameron script. But things weren't done yet! After a lengthy court battle between MGM and Marvel/Carolco, a ruling was made that the original contract between Stan Lee and Golan had expired. So Marvel relicensed the rights over to Columbia. Meanwhile, the head of MGM moved to Columbia Pictures (which was owned by Sony) and sought to start making James Bond movies based on Kevin McClory's work, the rights to which Columbia had recently acquired (McClory was famously known for suing Ian Fleming after the release of the novel Thunderball because he said it was based on an unused script that he and Fleming had developed together when originally adapting Bond to the screen). So now both Columbia and MGM had rights to both Spider-Man and James Bond. Finally, in 1999, they reached an agreement: Columbia would relinquish their rights to Bond if MGM would relinquish their rights to Spider-Man. This way, each studio owned one of the franchises and wouldn't be putting out competing films. So then Sony/Columbia began developing the film with director Sam Raimi. David Koepp was brought in to rewrite the script. He basically just turned in a slightly modified version of Cameron's script. Then Columbia hired Scott Rosenberg to rewrite Koepp's script. Then, a producer sent the script to her husband to have him polish the dialogue (her husband being Academy Award-winning Ordinary People writer Alvin Sargent) before filming. Finally, the script went into production, but Rosenberg, Sargent, and Cameron all relinquished credit for the script, and David Koepp received the sole screenwriting credit. During the Koepp rewrites, Electro and Sandman from Cameron's script were dropped, and Green Goblin was added. Koepp originally kept Doc Ock, but Raimi felt that having secondary villain - with accompanying backstory - would be too much and could muddle up the film (a lesson he apparently forgot by the time Spider-Man 3 came around). So Ock was dropped from Koepp's script and then picked back up as the villain for the sequel.