I love love love Burton's Batman. I was 9 when it came out, and whatever problems Batman may have are invisible to me because of my age when I saw it, call it the Goonies Effect. Donner's Superman, holy cow, maybe one of the most uplifting movies I've ever seen. Even hearing Williams' theme in the Singer film makes me a bit veklumpt (sp?). Donner's and Reeve's version of Superman is my definitive version. And as for folks saying that Superman who stands for decency for decency's sake doesn't make sense in a post 9/11 world, well it wasn't so hot in 1978 either. Line-ups at the Gas stations, Post Nixon, US still wounded from Vietnam, the disillusionment of the hippy movement, etc., etc. Unless you were a kid riding your tricycle off a ramp with no helmet, 1978 sucked and Donner's Superman reflected that a modern, complicated and dangerous world still needs a role model like Superman. Even further when times were seemingly easy for America, say the 50s and first half of the 60s, Superman was a horrible character. How many times did he bend Lois over his knee for a rightful spanking. Egh. Times like ours we need a Superman we can look up to more than ever.