groovy-guy

ooooh .... I look forward to this film getting the grilling it deserves ... I think 'The Usual Suspects' is a terrible film that opened the doors to some of the worst filmmaking ever do the right thing Devin & Amy

edit: soft no

i dig it

Se7en is influential like an outbreak of ringworm ... does that make it canon ? I waive my right to vote this week . . .

Federico Fellini's I Vitelloni and Martin Scorsese's Mean Streets, two early masterpieces from two of the greats, Mean Streets inspired by I Vitelloni, and both about a group of aimless twentythirtysomething loser friends trying to figure out why they're that old and still in a coming of age drama ... Mean Streets featuring plotless brawling, newcomer actor Bobby Deniro's first (second?) big role, and a soundtrack that covers The Ronettes to The Rolling Stones I Vitelloni as Fellini's breakthrough picture, featuring the Amarcord kids all grown up and bitter, drunkenness & disappointment, and the blueprints for not only Mean Streets but American Graffitti

Magnolia should be put in the Canon so we can all remember that time PTA made a bad movie.

(in short: i vote no) Devin brought up the banality of evil which I think is an important element to any conspiracy story, the idea that most involved are just doing their jobs, and just doing your job is what ultimately leads to evil. 'All The President's Men' from the same year is a perfect example of this done right, most of the cogs in that machine are not there out of sympathy for the perpetrators of Watergate. But where between the contract killers and blade-armed Nazi spy-dentists is the banality here? The conspiracy is all around Babe, but not because it is made up of ordinary people - the kind who enable conspiracy, the kind who turned a blind eye to the holocaust - but because he's got some bad fuggin luck hanging around with jewel hungry Nazis and their associates. The banality of Szell and his co-conspirators lies only in the writing of their motivations. I do actually like this film though. I just think it falls short of being more than a good thriller, ( tho even there I have have some of the same reservations as Amy ) and don't think it does anything significant enough for film history to warrant a place in The Canon . . . no it's not safe at all.

Favorite in the Canon: Slacker or Two Lane Blacktop Least Favorite in the Canon: Clerks Wanted to see in the Canon: The Decline of Western Civilization and The Goonies Happy to see not in the Canon: American Beauty Personal Nomination for the Canon: Mean Streets

Hey man, I love Plow which 'nobody's seen'.