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DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
This list needs some kung fu, and not just Crouching Tiger. Either some King Hu - Dragon Gate Inn, A Touch of Zen or Come Drink With Me, all stone cold classic masterpieces. Or something less arty but equally influential, Bruce Lee's Fist of Fury aka Chinese Connection or Chang Cheh's Five Deadly Venoms or One-Armed Swordsman, Jackie Chan's Police Story. Or hell, let's get some Heroic Bloodshed in there - how about John Woo's The Killer vs Hard Boiled? Every movie above is worthy of the Canon. -
I think Tommy is a bit of mess, though it has some great moments, so a very soft no. But if you put up Ken Russell's The Devils, which captures all of his insane, vulgar energy in a more focused package, I'm a definite yes.
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Episode 158 - The Talented Mr. Ripley (w/ Tom Bissell)
DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
Very soft no. Great film, great performances, just not quite canon-level to me. -
Episode 157 - Grease vs. Hairspray (w/ Adam Egypt Mortimer)
DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
Slight edge to Hairspray, despite (not because of) Amy's nonsensical argument that Hairspray is not camp. Don't know where that argument came from, but this was definitely an amusing throwback to the wacky Amy/Devin arguments where one of them (usually Devin, to be fair) would take some bonkers position to bolster their pick. -
Episode 154 - Infernal Affairs vs. The Departed (w/ Andrew Ti)
DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
I'd certainly go with the original here (which was a blockbuster, maybe not in America, but a massive success at home), instead of the well-made but mostly derivative remake. Though if it were just up to me, I'd probably go with Infernal Affairs II, which I prefer to both. It has a more emotional heart, whereas Infernal Affairs is a very cold movie. -
A no, but I'm glad to have this bizarro little film, which I had never heard of before. I'd be an easy yes on Beyond the Valley of the Dolls and Faster Pussycast, though, and I've give serious consideration to Vixen and Supervixens.
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Episode 150 - The Avengers (w/ Jenelle Riley)
DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
Easy no for me. It's an entertaining enough movie, and decently rewatchable, but not even close to Canon-worthy. It's far from the best MCU film - hell, I'd say Ragnarok, Black Panther, Spider-Man and Winter Soldier are all substantially better, and maybe Dr. Strange and GOTG 1 also. It's not even of historical importance, because it's not the movie that kicked off the MCU - Iron Man is. I doubt it would even make my list of top 10 superhero films, let alone the Canon. I'm not sure the MCU has produced a Canon-worthy film yet (though I'd at least entertain Ragnarok for really capturing the comic book feel), but they are certainly getting better and better on the whole. -
Episode 146 - Punch-Drunk Love (w/ Emily Yoshida)
DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
Soft no. Very good movie, but not an all-time great for me. Honestly, as good as PTA's stuff generally is, if I were putting together my desert island box of 50-100 movies I'm stuck with forever, the only PTA film that makes my list is Boogie Nights. -
Episode 143 - Gladiator vs. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (w/ Russ Fischer)
DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
I rather like the de-emphasis of the romance. She's not dissatisfied and trying to break free because she's in love a desert bandit, it's much more internal. I think even without Lo, she'd end up in roughly the same place. -
Episode 143 - Gladiator vs. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (w/ Russ Fischer)
DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
Interesting point. I think Scott deserves to be called a major director on the basis of Alien, Blade Runner and The Duellists, but my instinct was to say that everything from Gladiator on was crap (Hannibal, Kingdom of Heaven, Prometheus, Alien: Covenant), But looking back, he has made some solid, good films since Gladiator - Blackhawk Down and The Martian in particular. -
Episode 143 - Gladiator vs. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (w/ Russ Fischer)
DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
Yeah, tons of good stuff coming out of Asia that year. I forgot about Yi Yi. You should check out The Foul King if you've never seen it, not Best Picture quality but damn good fun. And on the accent point, like Italian movies, HK movies are so often dubbed or ADR'd that I tend not to worry too much about the vocal quality, though I'm not sure if that's as common in mainland films. -
Episode 143 - Gladiator vs. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (w/ Russ Fischer)
DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
The Ice Storm too. Love that this is looking like a rout - will Gladiator get completely shut out? -
Episode 143 - Gladiator vs. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (w/ Russ Fischer)
DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
Forget Gladiator, the real competition for Best Picture that year should have been between Crouching Tiger and Battle Royale. Gladiator was a mediocre, trite, modern peplum with utterly garbled fight scenes that had me leaving the theater feeling like the entire affair was a total waste of time (a few good performances aside). Crouching Tiger, on the other hand, may not be the best wu xia swordplay film, but it is a great one, and one I revisit pretty regularly. The cinematography is stunning, the story and characters are engaging, and everyone involved is at the top of their game. Plus it introduced an entire generation to the joys of Chinese swordplay films and revitalized the genre at home and abroad. It was a gateway for so many to the works of King Hu, Tsui Hark, Chu Yuan and Chang Cheh. Hell, even putting aside Crouching Tiger and Battle Royale, Iād have been happier seeing the Oscar go to The Foul King, Memento, American Psycho or In the Mood for Love, among others, rather than Gladiator. -
More than just that, he was in full lecture mode the whole time. This was the most uncomfortable episode since Armond White was on. A rare instance where I couldn't get through the whole episode, because it was just offputting. And I quite like The Hustler.
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Episode 139 - The NeverEnding Story (w/ Dave Nadelberg)
DavidAustin replied to DaltonMaltz's topic in The Canon
I enjoyed this as a kid, but even then thought the narrative was a bit of a mess, and that the message didn't really work. I think Neverending Story still has some amazing emotional and visual moments (the knight going through the sphinxes, the horse in the swamp, the "strong hands" monologue, the incredibly creepy confrontation with the wolf), but, like Dark Crystal (another visual treat I love), doesn't hang together that well as a story. So call this a soft no with all due affection. I do remember reading the book after watching the movie, and being very surprised at how different it was.