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Your HIGH school? Not college? What on earth was the context?

Yeah, you'd have 'chemistry' auditions late in the game, but never as the first thing you'd do. Or you'd audition in pairs so you could read a scene. When i played Romeo I had to read opposite a whole bunch of Juliets and they mixed and matched to see who worked best. The auditioners' choice of partner is irrelevant.

In the third movie, a big point of contention is that Sharpay wants to steal the love song that Kelsi wrote for Troybriella so that she can sing it instead, but when she gets it (because Gabriella goes off to college), she cuts Ryan out and wants to do the duet with Troy, which Ryan's all put out about. Then Sharpay summons Troy because she wants to 'practice the kissing scene', to which Ryan looks sad. That he can't do a kissing scene with Sharpay. But joke's on Sharpay, because Troy's understudy gets called in and she gets macked on by the freshman basketball kid.

I think it's adorable that you heard her name as the same as the permanent marker. In reality it's even worse, it's Sharpay, like the dog. I think the reasoning with the difference in the names is that she's the princess and he's the afterthought, which is why it's a big deal at the end of the third movie that

In four hours we've already posted half as many posts as are in the entire 'Lake House' thread, and we've barely scratched the surface... THOUSANDTH POST!

Also WAY too young to have a 17 year old son. Well, not technically, but the actor was 36 when the movie was made, which means he struggled through teachers' college with a baby Troy at his ankles, missed his shot at going pro, and then saddled his son with all of his failed expectations. For real, though, Troy's dad is a total man-child.

He wasn't just in charge of the basketball team, but he was moonlighting in the teacher's lounge too? Budget cuts, eh.

BTW running through my head EVERY time Chad said 'What team?"

Just had a big, hearty laugh at the mental image of Fister standing in his living room shouting at the television: THAT WAS A TRAVEL, REF! ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND?

NUMBER THREE MADE NINETY MILLION DOLLARS IN WIDE RELEASE

Such an asshole.

Let's be clear, they're all 16-18 NOW, so were little kids when it came out.

I was 28, if that helps.

My wife told her class last week that she was going to be watching HSM that weekend and they all, every SINGLE one, said 'oh my God, that's the best movie ever'. And my wife teaches in an alternative school full of gang members and drug dealers. They're all 16-18 years old and their memory of this movie was vivid and beloved. They talked about fond memories of HSM sleepover parties and learning the dances when they were kids. And my kids fuckin' LOVED all three movies (they're 7 and 5). I'd agree with Cameron in saying that it's more of a middle school target demo.

Zac Efron didn't sing in this movie but he did sing in the second and third: pretty sure he got the lead because he was an up-and-comer and Disney saw something in him, but the music had already been written in the first movie for a tenor, and he's a baritone. Here he is in a flashback sequence in Firefly! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1B7MSY45fE ETA - just realised with this rate of posting, that I'm 100% certain of hitting the 1000 post mark in this thread!

No, she's a badass dancer, right up front and centre and kicking ass.

Wait, so for you this is worse even than baked beans on Ann-Margret?

Absolutely. She seems to have grown up into a really cool, socially conscious artist. Her instagram is really great. ETA - I clicked over to her instagram just now and saw that her third picture is her ass in underwear. I swear that's not why I suggested you click over. Now I feel like a creepy old man making the suggestion. Oof.

Can I say again how awesome Kelsi is? Even if we put aside that orchestration at this level is well beyond the resources she has, she's a fantastic character. She gets a lot cooler in the next two movies, which is a shame, since her nerdy 'bowler hat and suit' persona is so endearing in the first one.

Yeah but that's the magic of Troybriella (I'm not letting this go, guys): when they get involved, they cause all their friends to shake off their long-held 'Status Quo' biases and by the second and third movies they've trebled their BFF pool! Troybriella = World Peace

Yeah, but there's a difference between following your own bliss and messing with everyone else's bliss so that you can be the only happy farter... The meddling is what makes them unlikeable, but when they learn to accept everyone else, they're again judged on what they're good at. So Sharpay gets to dance with them at the end like she's one of the team. If she was a true villain, she'd be run out of town on a rail. BTW totally don't disagree with your points.

FUCK GUYS TOM JUST REVEALED HER NEXT PICK

If Taylor was crushing on Gabriella and Ryan actually came out in the third movie (as he was pressuring producers to let him do), this would have been a WAY more interesting series.

RESPECTFULLY disagree. The second one was the first time they'd put any money or effort into the franchise when they realised it was a hit. Much better numbers (although terrible denouement). Ridiculous, but way more fun than the other two. TERRIBLE, mind you. Still TERRIBLE. But the one I enjoyed most of the three, easy. But the seniors and the rest of the student body mingle freely in the third movie. Unless it's a new school, and Troy etc's grade were the first class of freshmen when the school opened, and so they're the first graduating class. But that's not right because Coach says that West High have beaten them in the championship game every year for 4 years. UNLESS the reason they kept getting beat was that West High's seniors were crushing the freshman team at East High?

Also, I'm just gonna say now that I kind of wish Jammer had picked HSM2 as the MM this week. Same concept, WAY better movie. Plus it would be an epic troll move to pick a sequel, thus making everyone feel like they have to watch the first one...