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Posts posted by EvRobert
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According to the Tribune (if you listen to We Hate Movies podcast you’ll get this reference)
“Just after the sewer crap game, Nathan tells Adelaide that green and white are the Whitney colors. C.V. Whitney colors are light blue with brown cap. John Hay Whitney raced the Greentree Stable's horses under flamingo and pink colors.” C.V. Whitney was a member of the Whitney and Vanderbilt families and was a businessman, film producer (he financed Gone With the Wind) and a breeder of race horses. There seems to be some confusion about what their colors were but it appears to be a reference to a wealthy winning racehorse team.
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I can TRY to explain why I love this movie. Part of it is what Triple said though, I saw it when I was a young musical theater nerd and there is just something about it that works for me.
Mankewicz directs with a sure steady hand, the music styling between burlesque, religious, and traditional broadway show tunes works. The palate is colorful but not "overly bright" which reflects on the characters, they criminals, they aren't to be admired and yet they aren't extremely dark. I think you compare this to some of the other "classic" musicals like Sound of Music or Oklahoma or Music Man, the main characters are "saved" or "redeemed" and even though Sky and Nathan get married, there's no indication (at least on my part) that they will be giving up their lifestyles. I also think the songs are some of the most "ear wormy" of almost any Broadway show.
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Yeah, and me being someone who's been a Star Trek fan ever since I had a grasp on human speech... why does he get to make his Star Trek Fan Fiction TV show and I don't?!?!?!
I've been wondering that too, I mean I wanna make my star trek fan fiction about the Ferengi, all in the Ferengi native tongue
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I actually agree. I think he'd do very well in that role, certainly better than captaining a Star-Trek-But-Not-Star-Trek starship in The Orville.
I am liking The Orville, but you can tell it's him being like "I really really really want to do Star Trek". It's Star Trek fan fiction. However if they did Guys and Dolls with McFarland they could probably get Stewart and Victor Garber in it.
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Another thought on who could play Nathan, Seth McFarland (although I think he'd be a better Harold Hill) particularly if G&D ever gets the winter "live on stage via network television" treatment
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Yeah, I get their relationship made sense at the time. But still wish there was more charm to these characters. Or some sharper dialogue like there was in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.
And speaking of, I saw another potential/alternate casting on IMDb :
I think Jane Russell would be an interesting Sarah.. but kind of hard for me to picture.
I'd take Hope as Detroit, Crosby as Sky, Russell as Adelide, and Marilyn as Sister Sarah. It would be a cluster of a movie, but would it be great.
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I love this movie but it isn't without it's problems. Brando can't sing and his style of acting clashes with everyone elses. Sinatra is wrong for Nathan (Lane is a good choice, Oliver Platt did Nathan opposite Lauren Graham). But man do the songs work, the set design is fantastic, it's a technical marvel. G&D is a show that I've never gotten to do but man would I love to. I like that these are these loveable losers who think they are big shots because they are "connected". That's probably what drew Sinatra to Nathan because he KNEW guys like Nathan.
I think Channing Tatum (who I love, easily one of the best parts of Hail Ceaser!) and Joseph Gordon Levitt are WRONG. Well maybe not Tatum as Sky, but give someone who was in Channing's shoes, 10, 20 years ago the spot of Nathan. That's my interpreation. Nathan is Sky but 20 years older and "wiser". I keep going in my mind to Ethan Hawke or an even wilder suggestion, RDJ as Nathan with Channing as Sky.
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YOU GUYS ARE IN FOR A TREAT! Frank and Marlon! Anxiously planning a craps game! Ruthlessly betting over the emotions of Christians! Commitment phobia! Technicolor gangsters!
What's playin' at the Roxy? I'll tell ya what's playin' at the Roxy...
I'm very excited.
Sit down sit down sit down you're rocking the boat
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Lauren "Lorelai Gilmore" Graham? I don't know anything about Guys And Dolls but I wish I could have seen this.
Yup! There are a few clips on YouTube grainy cell phone clips if you're curious
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I'm probably spoiling some of the discussion for next week, but man, I wish I could have seen the mid 2000s Broadway cast with Lauren Graham and Oliver Platt.
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Cobra and Punisher War Zone were the first ones I listened to and probably the ones I've listened to the most
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This was on my shortlist as well. I'm so excited to discuss this.
Also, I may have umm pirated Krush Groove
But I totally rented and paid actual money for Best Whorehouse.
Also I'm a Prime member
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As I said in the live stream, I feel about this the same way I feel about Dirty Grandpa. Anything with Zouks was great, the rest not so much. In this case, anyone who wasn't Robin Williams, John Travolta, or Kelly Presoton had funny moments. With them...ugh.
This so needed a more central plot then "guy gets kids, vignettes and hijinks occur"
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Whoa I think I can make this...for...Old Dogs...
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Old Crow's version is pretty great, but it is so overplayed 'round these parts (I'm southern if y'all haven't figured that out yet) that one of my favorite bars in town has a large sign that says "NO WAGON WHEEL" near their stage. True story.
I'm a wedding DJ in Kansas, believe e I share their pain LOL
There are so many songs I'd love to put up on a "no play" sign.
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I know. I believe it's a Bob Dylan demo he wrote while on the set of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.
I see your "the more you know" and raise you a
Dylan wrote the chorus and 25 years later Ketch Secor wrote the lyrics around the chorus. Dylan claims he got the phrase "Rock me mama" from a bluseman, who got it from someone else. Dylan and Secour share the writing credits and royalties 50/50
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Huh, I've never heard the "Dolly is a lesbian" thing before, but I could see WHY it would get said, for all the reasons mentioned above.
Wasn't that Coat of Many Colors a "Christian" movie? (if it is, I'm surprised the guys over at God Awful Movies haven't done it yet.) That's an interesting dichotomy if she ever does come out and is true.
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Yeah! I'm not a huge country fan, but I do have two of his songs ("Wagon Wheel" and "Radio")
Wagon Wheel is also a cover, there is a better version of that song by a group called Old Crow Medicine Show
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And since we're talking about I Will Always Love You
This video was released almost a year ago and features several modern country artists with a few "classic" country artists doing a mash up of I Will Always Love You, Country roads (Take Me Home), & On The Road Again. It's interesting to hear some of the modern female singers interpert Dolly's song (and of course The Queen herself ends the song)
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I just realized that I love pineapple on pizza, licorice, and coconut which makes me the resident food weirdo. At least I'm not that crazy person who had raisins in coleslaw... right... that's just... weird... *sigh*
Who here doesn't like coconut? coconut is the best.
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Was "I Will Always Love You" in the Broadway show? Dolly wrote the song so maybe she had a part in creating the show?
No, I Will Always Love You was written just for the movie. I haven't seen a stage show version, but it wouldn't surprise me if community theaters add it in.
ETA: I Will Always Love You wasn't for the movie, she reworked her 1974 version for the movie.
She also wrote Sneakin' Around for the movie, which isn't in the stage version. In fact as far as i can tell Ed Earl doesn't have a song in the stage show.
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You could have thought Jolene was a Miley Cyrus song. So, you could be doing worse. I think her version is prettygood but it's not Dolly by a country mile and The White Stripes at least totally changed it up.
I dig Miley's version a lot. I don't think I've heard the White Stripes version
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It was a Drunk History segment if that counts.
I both love and hate "Jolene." You're to good for him, Dolly!
And a very good segment on DH but I would love to see a really well done, serious version of their story
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Musical Mondays Week 21 Guys and Dolls
in How Did This Get Made?
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It's not a racetrack, CV Whitney owned race horses...like an obscene amount of them. I believe that either green and white OR light blue and brown (or perhaps both) were his "offical" team colors. Anyone watching the horse races would know that a rider wearing those colors were part of the Whitney team, thus the "Whitney Colors".