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    Here in the Northeast, I grew up listening to Whitney and wasn't exposed to artists like Dolly Parton very much. I blame the evil liberal media, of course. Seriously, I thought Jolene was a White Stripes song! At least this movie has inspired me to look into Dolly Parton's discography.

     

    I can understand that. Dolly Parton is a god damn national treasure. Read into her history with Porter Wagnor. It's beautiful and tragic and I'm surpised hasn't been turned into a musical or play or movie yet.

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    Ugh! Don't get him started. If I have to sit here and listen to Cam B talk about and post pictures of licorice again, I'm going to fucking puke. "Look at me! I live in Japan, I'm super nice, and I love candy that tàstes like Satan's butthole...."

     

    Anise is such a weird flavor. I hate it in licorce, but like I like ouzo and sambuca and there is this cookie my dad and i make called peppernuts, which uses anise, that i could eat every day for the rest of my life.

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    Here is Charles Durning being up for the Oscar, losing to Louis Gossett Jr. for "An Officer and a Gentleman".

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr94It4rrzg

     

    First of all Susan Sarandon hasn't aged a day

     

    Second of all, Charles Durning hasn't aged a day

     

    third that "drag race" joke...ugh...

     

    But dude ... he fucking murdered that scene.

     

    Plus, he's in Thorpe's giant painting during "the corset and shoulder pad scene." So ... two-ish scenes, really.

     

    yeah he's great in that scene and that is the role I'd want for sure. It's the Judi Dench in Shakespeare In Love thing...great actor, great role, do you reward them for little screen time?

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    You convinced me I need to watch 9 to 5. And I had no idea there was a musical version of it.

     

    Re: "I Will Always Love You," I had no idea it was a song in TBLWHIT and when she started singing it in the movie, it was really cool. But today, I kept humming Whitney's version. Dolly's version was so sweet and intimate, but I prefer Whitney's powerful r&b version, especially the part where there's a 4 count (?) silence with a single bass drum kick at the end and then she belts out "And I......"

     

    Blasphemy. I like Whitney's version, but she doesn't hold a candle to Dolly. Whitney wouldn't even know about the song if Costner (if I recall correctly) didn't suggest it.

     

    Don't forget to mention the real star of this film, Charles Durning, who got an Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actor!

     

    Durning for a supporting actor nod for this? It was ONE scene. Now granted his Sidestep song is pretty great and if I was auditioning that would be the part I'd want, but still...

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    My granddad worked for a local TV news station, and when he died, a couple of the local anchors came to the funeral. And several of our family friends totally and inappropriately freaked the fuck out over being in the same room as these local half-celebs.

     

    But I'll tell you ... these local half-celebs sure sometimes talk and act like the A-listers they think they are.

     

     

    One of the DJs I work with still just goes on and on about this wedding he DJ'd the reception for and a local radio personality was there. I'm like "dude no one outside of the listening area cares and of the listening area, probably only 25% care".

     

    It is a bit weird, the "local celebrity" culture.

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    But idk it's still kind of strange to me that closing the Chicken Ranch is like a hard candy Christmas?

    They just lost their jobs and have to get out of town! You'd think they'd be more devastated.

     

    I always assumed that the girls knew that their job at the Chicken Ranch had a limited shelf life and Miss Mona wasn't grooming any of them to take over anytime soon, so while it's bad, I would guess it's something that they all knew would come eventually.

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    Is it, really?

     

     

    I think it has better comedic timing, stronger leads against Dolly (as much as I love Burt, he can't beat Lily and Jane), and a better antagonist (Dabney Colemen vs Dom Deluise). The supporting cast in 9to5 is better and more memorable with better defined characters then Whorehouse. What can you tell me about the girl's in in Dolly's house? What do we know about Jewel/Porky? I think the 9 to 5 musical is better then TBLWHIT musical (to be fair, 9to5 musical came out much latter whereas the movie is based on the musical. Whorehouse musical also came from a transition time in Broadway), and I think the song "9 to 5" is better and more closely associated with Dolly then "I Will Always Love You", which rightly or wrongly, is more associated with Whitney.

     

    In Whorehouse's favor though is, Dolly gets to sing more (always a plus), Charles Duning (and what was he doing getting 4th billed for one scene) is better then Sterling Hayden (although their roles aren't exactly analogous, they are both represent an authority figure who can change the course of the film and appear in one scene), and Whorehouse is a lot more diverse then 9to5.

     

    Now, that all said, I think Whorehouse has a more...timely message. You could make this movie today with one minor change (you know they would change Dom Deluise to a televangelist rather then a watch dog consumer advocate---which...why does a watch dog advocate CARE about a whore house in a small town in Texas? Publicity maybe? I can't see it falling in his realm unless the sex workers aren't...as advertised? But the small town politics vs the "big city" politics resonates more, even stronger I think, today then it did in the early 80s.

     

    Growing up in a small town in Kansas (5,000) and living in a slightly bigger town (20,000) but both being the "biggest" city in their area, I could honestly see this playing out, just because I hear and have heard about the complaining every time the state or national legislature votes for something that affects us out here. Small towns in the South/midwest, really just want to be left alone.

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    Like I said, I watched this a couple of weeks (maybe a month or so back) for The Canon and loved it then (although I wasn't surprised or disappointed that 9 to 5 "won" in that match up. It is the superior film).

     

    Revisiting it for this, without a critical eye, just for enjoyment, and to talk about it with ya'll, it was just a delight. It's a weird mixture of 3 different types of movies, the old fashioned musical (which was on it's way out), the "country" movie (exemplified by movies like Smokey & The Bandit, Every Which Way But Loose, Any Which Way You Can, Cannonball Run, etc), and the sex comedy. It SHOULDN'T work, and yet, it does.

     

    I honestly had forgotten that Hard Candy Christmas comes from this movie, which does take place at the holidays (the rare Thanksgiving movie!). Last year I was part of this mess of a community theater show. It was like a Christmas revue/worst holiday Special ever called A Christmas Spectacular (It was also of questionable legality with some of what they were doing). This older gentlemen and I go out for coffee at least once a week and we refer to it as "A Christmas Disaster".

     

    So anyways, Hard Candy Christmas was performed in that show as almost an upbeat like thing, and yet this movie shows the meaning is much more somber then you would think a "Christmas" song should be.

     

    I'm really curious what Kris Kristofferson would have brought to the role. He would have had more songs that's for sure.

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    Forum question: which movie best represents your teenage experience?

     

    A) Bratz

    B ) LOL

    C) Abduction

    D) I Know Who Killed Me

    E) Twilight Saga

    F) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze

    G) Masters of the Universe

    H) Hackers

    I) Teen Witch

    J) The Covenant

    K) Solarbabies

    L) The Boy Next Door

    M) Vampire Academy

    N) Grease 2

    O) Airborne

    P) Surf Ninjas

    Q) Sleepwalkers

    R) My Stepmother is an Alien

    S) The Wraith (I think...I'm not sure we ever nailed down their ages)

    T) Garbage Pail Kids

    U) Joyful Noise (I think. It's been awhile since I've listened to the episode and I've never seen the movie)

    V) Sleepaway Camp

     

    (By the way, I thought this would only be, like, a four movie poll)

     

    Probably Joyful Noise (despite never having seen it either) because I grew up in a religious household

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    I'm so glad I don't know what this is. I know the exactly the same number of Kid Rock songs as I do Ted Nugent's songs (2) so I really don't understand why I seem to hear their dumb names as often as I do.

     

    EvR - if you dont mind, i have two more questions after you answer Polly.

     

    1) We know MC Hammer was "2 Legit 2 Quit," but if he were to find a job that was maybe not as quite as legit but had better benefits, do you think he should at least consider it?

     

    2) Do you think Hammer ever hurt 'em?

     

    1) No.

     

    2) Yes.

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    What's the weirdest "first dance" song you've ever been asked to play?

     

    I can't recall a weird "first dance" (most are pretty standard) but the weirdest father/daughter dance was Kenny Loggins' Return To Pooh Corner. (that dance all together was memorable. Wedding and reception were held in a country club. Bride and groom were both like 18 or 19. Groom just graduated from Basic Training, bride just finished the first semester of college. So they were the youngest couple I've ever DJ'd for. It was on a Sunday afternoon too. So all that to account for there was very little drinking and drinking usually indicates more dancing. Then, with about two hours left in the reception, a grandparent, who wasn't at the ceremony and reception, had a stroke and the nursing home called. So we ended early.)

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    I saw those were movies recently covered on The Canon! I'll listen to the ep after I watch the movie.

     

    This was one of the 3 movie musicals parodied on The Simpsons (that I remember). I hope it turns out better than Paint Your Wagon. I gave up on it around 20-30 minutes in.

     

    I was part of a "movie club" years ago where we picked a theme and then everyone had to pick a movie in that theme. There was 5 of us, so every month r so we had a new theme. I don't remember what the theme was, but someone picked Paint Your Wagon and it was literal torture to get t hrough. LIke it's only marginally better then Bratz...

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    Just out of curiosity, how is it weird?

     

    Weird in that songs I haven't thought about in forever or you would normally think are annoying, people love.

     

    Like 3 hours into an open bar, people are totally down to do the Macarana, or The Chicken Dance. But if you try and mix it up with something "different" (like I have a techno/EDM version of the chicken dance that I've tried to mix into the original) they don't go for.

     

    You also play almost the same songs every week, week after week (Cha Cha Slide Part 2, Footloose, Ice Ice Baby, Baby Got Back, Crank That, Get Low), but then every dance is also different because this bride hates Lady Gaga but that one hates Taylor Swift. So I play a lot of the same songs, but I have to tailor it to their specific needs.

     

    There is also so much down time. I'll roll into a wedding reception 2 hours before it starts to set up. Then I've got nothing to do for an hour, 5 minutes to introduce the wedding party and dinner, then nothing for an hour and half for dinner/cake/toasts, then you have 3 hours of djing.

     

    It's also like, people for the most part don't want to hear new songs (with some exceptions. When Uptown Funk was released I knew it would be one I'd play for years, but 24k Magic, not so much.) People seemingly want to dance to music that they know and spark some sort of nostalgia. It's a trick of knowing what to play and what not to.

     

    I think there is a reason why in movies (and TV shows), you more often see a band at a wedding and a DJ at a school. There is something inherent about seeing a band do covers vs a DJ doing something new or unique like mixing.

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    One of the gang asked if a deaf person could be a good DJ using just the sensation of the beats vibrating through the headphones on his neck.

     

    I guess I don't really know, but I would think ... maybe? Good DJ-ing is all about matching beats, so as long as Dylan could feel the rhythm, he should be able to beat-match effectively and could probably scratch OK, too. The main issue would be mixing songs that are too different -- if he's unfamiliar with the songs he's trying to beat-match, he might go from a hip-hop song to Tom Jones or whatever. But, if he wasn't born deaf, he should have a catalog of music in his head that's familiar to him; he'd just have to avoid mixing anything that was released after he lost his hearing. I guess that means he wouldn't be able to use any new music, which might cut down on his club appeal, but he could do weddings and things like that, right?

     

    I've met a few deaf folks that really enjoy going to metal shows simply because the music is so heavy and loud that they can feel the beat. I have a friend who is an ASL interpreter, and metal shows are a big percentage of the gigs she gets. So, to me, DJ-ing seems doable.

     

    Thoughts?

     

    I can't comment on weather or not a person who is deaf would be a good DJ, I'll just say that, as a wedding DJ, we don't do a lot of beat matching and scratching. But people do want music that they know. It's a weird but fun industry.

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    The main issue that I can think of is that any comedic duo besties that I would enjoy (like Tina/Amy or Anna Kendrick/Aubrey Plaza or Lennon Parham/Jessica St. Clair or even June/Casey Wilson) tend to turn their team ups into broad comedies with a lot of pratfalls. This one had a few physical moments but it was a lot more clever dialogue and great timing with silly escapades. I think it'd be hard to 'modernize' or even just recreate.

     

    edit - to be clear, I don't mean that as a critique of the women I listed. They could all probably pull it off, its just not something they tend to do now.

     

    That was my thought too. Most of the modern comic teams go more broad then we saw in this (and also tend to go more blue--not a criticism just an observation).

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