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Really? We know that how? People being registered to one particular party doesn't make them beholden to vote for that party's candidate in the general election. Turnout was lower but margins by which Trump won those counties point to new people deciding to vote Rethug. Turnout was lower because you had new restrictive voting laws passed. Turnout was lower because, yeah, maybe people were not so enthused by Clinton. But make no mistake that people who voted for Obama in 2012, suddenly went Trump. Obama was never a choice for these people in 2008 or 2012.

Donald Trump ran a terrible campaign where he was accused of sexually assulting 12 women and still won. If the voters want something, they are going to vote for it regardless. The voters want Ryan -- former VP pick -- back in Washington. The facts don't mesh with your narrative.

Trump supporters are anything but civil. http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/trump-supporters-ram-sign-holding-war-veteran-with-truck-in-politically-motivated-hit-and-run/ http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/go-back-to-your-country-this-is-trump-land-usps-driver-busted-for-harassing-hispanic-man/ http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/alt-right-founder-trump-is-the-first-step-in-turning-america-into-a-vast-safe-space-for-whites/ You can't possibly believe any of what you said. How do reconcile holding elected officials feet to the fire, if you avoid the ballot box? So the "tyrants" are only in the White House, huh? Not in the Senate or the House that brings them the bills to sign? And if they are tyrants in the White House, what good would it be to lobby the Congress, since tyrants, by definition, do whatever the hell they want? This sort of stupidity is why Trump is in the White House.

Trump won those counties by a wide margin. Wider than what Bush got in 2000. And those non-voters that sat out previous elections -- there is no reason to think that they would have voted for Obama at all. There is though very good evidence that stirring up pre-existing racial hatreds motivated them to get out. The biggest campaign promise that Trump is going to have to keep is kicking out all immigrants and building a wall on Mexico while Mexico pays for it.

The name is Shariq, not Tariq. And Ryan did not run unopposed. There were three other choices in that race. Cantor lost his seat in 2014 because you can credibliy make a point that Rethug voters wanted something different. In this case, Ryan won and so did Rand Paul -- the other Kentucky dipshit establishment senator that has been in there for long time. During neither of their previous terms, did they pass a jobs bill, so don't tell me that there was huge economic factors at play.

What is hell is this?! One minute he says the polls got it wrong about Trump because it underestimated rural Americans and now he says these same polls show that Americans support gun control and gay marriage? This is some mind bogginlgy stupid shit. Does he not realize that the people who oppose those very same things mean now control all three branches of government? Damn, what a dumbfuck.

Jesus, Jason this is such bullshit. This is not the media against Trump. They loved him. He is one of them and made them alot of money with his shows.

Can we stop with the made up narrative about the working class? The breakdown of Trump voters were older and wealthy. People who make under 50k broke heavy for Clinton. And Jason, this was not a rejection of establishment politicians. McConnell and Ryan both won their seats back as did most of the Republican politicians. If that was the case, then McConnell and Ryan would have been out on their ass. What you are selling is not what reality is. The reality is that they wanted another white man in charge. That is what they meant when they said they were going to "take their country back."

Kevin and Cassandra??? I totally ship it!!! :D :D

AirBnB while black is hard. Murfreesboro is like peak KKK country and Omaha is really no better. http://www.live5news.com/story/23708206/family-concerned-after-racist-message-drawn-on-door http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3710929/I-m-hung-section-n-right-Tennessee-waitress-sacked-posting-astonishing-racist-Snapchat-customers-sharing-one-victims.html

Is Howard sick? Is he going through something? Because he looks like he's had better days in the photo. Is everything cool with him?

Every downturn in the economy has hit black Americans the hardest. Even in good economies black unemployment is higher than rural white people. In fact, during the times when these factory towns existed, those rural whites colluded to make sure to cap the number of black people working in the factory and excluded them from the unions. The negative reaction is because this a group of people whose entire "way of life" was sustained by actively keeping others down. It was based on myth and fairy tales about a self-reliant white guy battling the world and winning. IT IS NOT TRUE. Those factory jobs stayed as long as there was cheap labor. When that cheap labor could go to other countries, it left. It was never about the "craftsmanship" and "quality" of work these people were doing. IT WAS A POLITICAL CALCULATION When women and minorities can compete with them for jobs, they lose a little and freak out. Remember that all of the board of directors and C-suite people are mostly white male, but these people act as if black person getting a promotion is the end of the world. They were fed a myth about them being the smartest and IT IS NOT TRUE. I disagree that they aren't asking for empathy. They are ALWAYS asking for empathy. They are always asking for a special spotlight on them because this is the first time in history when there hasn't been a spotlight on them. You obviously have an idea of what you consider "seeing them has human beings" to mean, and disagreement is not it. All I have been doing is disagreeing with the very premise that they are "forgotten" and "downtrodden". They are not. They have had the ear of one of the two parties of this country since the 1980s. The only other group that can make a claim like that are rich white people, who have had the ear of both parties since the very beginning.

Jason, You just said that the racism and homophobia is a part of their culture and that they would rather die than change it. So how exactly do you change their views when they don't want to change. You say that it is on the liberals to reach out to them, but what is the responsibility of the conservative in this? The world is changing and they are being left behind. It would seem to me that the responsibility is on them to understand how they can fit into this new world?

If they don't believe the media because it is a "tainted messenger" then they shouldn't be upset when the country moves on without them. They are not the "Silent Majority" anymore. The future will be about them sharing the table instead of controlling the table.

Rural conservatives make fun of reality TV as well because its people acting stupid. Even better that these people that are on reality TV are not from their rural communities.

By that logic, did all of the rural conservatives love the PETA ad when they compared farm animals to slavery? Since the rural conservatives think the black people are dangerous/killers/etc, then they should have LOVED the idea that PETA was saying that they own black people.

Nope, this is all bullshit. Jason is talking bullshit. He just said that it was ok for these rural whites to not show any empathy for anyone else in an bad situation. These people want a trait -- empathy -- that they don't extend to anyone else. Conservatives say they don't like "political correctness" but get all offended when someone calls them deplorable. They want empathy for themselves, but everyone else needs to stop whining and bring themselves up by their bootstraps.

Rural white people hate ALL black people -- rich ones ( they only got that way because of affirmative action ), poor ones (they are lazy ), rural ones ( they may try to impregnate my daughter ), and urban ones (they are all in gangs). Jason still thinks that this racism is predicated on actions; its predicated on skin color only.

They don't have to try to make Trump supporters look stupid. They say things like, "Hillary Clinton is a demon" or say that they are going to cause bloodshed if Trump doesn't win. And that racism and homophobia are not side effects. They are the bread and butter of that culture. These people never forgave the Supreme Court for integration, remember. Jesus, these people are racist against the rural black folks as well. What in the hell are you talking about?

Has Jack never heard of "Friday Night Lights"? Blue Collar Comedy? All of those failed Jeff Foxworthy and Ron White shows? They have multiple times to make shows. Martin Lawrence got once chance and was never again to grace TV sets.

And it is very much a inferiority complex. They get upset when they called flyover country. They are always going on about how much more "realer" they are than all of the "fake" city people. If they cities went away, this country would revert back to the scientific and medical progress of the 1700s.

Man, the problem with your premise is that it is not true at all. These rural conservatives have always been at the front of the American psyche. They were at the front in the 1980s -- Bruce Springsteen, John Mellencamp, and bunch of other rock artists made their whole careers appealing to this demographic. In the 1970s, they had whole programming dedicated to them -- the Waltons, Little House on the Prarire, Beverly Hillbillies, Dukes of Haazard, etc. Hell, they were even so popular that the U.S. Senate threatened to investigate the TV networks if they pulled those shows. They have a whole government party that tells them that they are only true "REAL AMERICANS". What is going on is a blacklash from these people about having to share the national dialogue. They have to share it with the numerous other groups that live and have lied here since the beginning. What is a more applicable comparison, is the Southern whites who complained about their rights being taken away when black folks could sit anywhere on the bus. Rural conservatives clearly view dominating the national culture as one of their "rights".

Listening to this now and I had, HAD to comment. These poor white conservatives' values do not matter. They still support Trump. They don't care that he insulted the Khans because they are Muslim. They don't care about sexual assaults because women always lie about rape and sexual assaults anyway. They don't care that he has been married several times because that means he's so honest (in their warped view).

The part about the pedophiles was overlooking one thing. A heterosexual who is not having sex will masturbate, that is true, but what will they masturbate to? Porn? Do you know that children who are displayed in child porn are still being abused? It sounds like these two are accepting of pedophiles who "control their urges" but that "control" is still at the expense of a kid somewhere.

Rob Cohen movies have the subtlety of a porno. What you have is Josh Lucas plays the All-American white dude, Jessica Biel plays the virginal white girl who is ready for Lucas peen, and Jamie Foxx plays the oversexed black man. It is very obvious that Biel and Lucas are going to hook up from the beginning and Foxx is going to die. Shit, make this thing interesting. They are trying to rip off Top Gun, make Lucas and Foxx the couple. Hell, switch it up and make Foxx and Biel the couple. Do something interesting Cohen instead of this Trump-level bullshit. How in the world does this guy get money for these movies?