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I read about that too and am also now super curious. I reeeaaally hope this is something Matt wants to talk about at some point, but I kinda have the feeling that if he wanted to he would have by now.
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I don't think Tyler Perry's movies are Birdemic quality, but really, what is? I do think though that they're as shitty or worse as many other things that have been featured on the podcast. They're dumb movies, but so are lots of other mainstream films. I personally don't have a problem with the fact that Tyler Perry movies exist or that they're popular, because a lot of dumb things rise to the top, that's just how it works regardless of race. What I do kinda have a problem with is there's Tyler Perry movies and pretty much not too much else for black audiences. There's no black Michel Gondry or black Wes Anderson or black Paul Thomas Anderson or black Judd Apatow or black JJ Abrams, and so on and so forth. I know Tyler Perry is not the only black filmmaker in Hollywood, but when you see a movie with an all black cast 90% of the time it's a Tyler Perry movie, and his movies suck. I certainly don't blame him for racism, and I don't think he has any sort of responsibility to make better films, but he does make terrible movies that are fun to make fun of because of their terribleness.
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The whole film is on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CScyXlIMCU
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Tyler Perry is like the steaming pile of shit to Spike Lee's being a director.
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Spike Lee was making movies of some substance I think, even when they weren't so great they were about issues and themes that were challenging in some way. But Tyler Perry stuff is just really pandering, which I think sells tickets better typically.
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They're popular because there's virtually no alternative for films aimed at black audiences right now. Plus anything that's kinda lowest common denominator is usually going to be appealing to a large audience.
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That's definitely not racist, Tyler Perry movies are ostensibly all about the same thing, "You gotta trust in Jesus baby!"
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A buncha words. But I've lost interest too.
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To the best of my knowledge that was actually a common practice in Hong Kong filmmaking up until somewhere around the 90's I think, because it was more cost-effective and practical for them, plus often some actors that didn't speak the proper dialect or had a very different accent because they were from somewhere else, and they wanted it to be more uniform.
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After John Heard saves the dog and is standing around like an idiot and a shark leaps out of the water and clamps on to his neck area, from offscreen he yells... "OW!" I don't know about everyone else but I found that absurd and couldn't stop laughing. "Ow!" is something you say when you stub your toe or get a paper cut, not what you say when a SHARK IS TEARING YOU APART!
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Yeah, this movie, in my opinion, is a classic. If you were going to do a Jackie Chan movie I'd say do one of his American movies that weren't really his style, like The Tuxedo or The Medallion or The Spy Next Door.
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Haha, awesome. There's actually a comic called Loaded Bible: Jesus vs Vampires which is preeeetty fun. Definitely recommend if you're the comic reading type.
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HDTGM has to do Tyler Perry at some point. If not this I'd recommend Daddy's Little Girls, which I found laughably ridiculous.
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It's getting stupid because you don't know what to say anymore? I don't know what's so hard about just saying "Yeah, you have a point."
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See, what you just described is what would make me say "I'm sold!" Maybe the kid in me just never died, but I just eat that shit up. I think the Michael Bay comparisons are unfair though, just because he directed the Transformers movies doesn't mean he invented big robots.
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Movies have made much less and become cult films, but that's usually because they're good, so bad they're good, or memorable in some way amongst like-minded people. It doesn't matter if $30 million worth of people went to see a movie if they mostly leave hating it. You know? You don't gain a following by just being a bad movie nobody likes.
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I forgot to mention the store owner being a conspiracy theorist who thought the government was responsible for the sharknados. I kinda just love the idea of corrupt government officials in a secret meeting and one of them goes "I think I know a way for us to all get what we want... we'll destroy LA with shark-filled tornados!"
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Yup, you can get basic toiletries at the liqour store in LA. The "liqour store" is really just a convenience store here. It's called Little Tokyo. Anyway, on to this crazy movie. - Anybody else a little skeeved out when John Heard's character tries to cop a feel on Nova? - When the shark crashes through the bar window there's a busty blonde in the white bikini who apparently falls down and forget how legs worth because she can't seem to figure out how to get up. Same for Nova, on the dock she falls down and there's a shark at her feet and she also can't seem to just get up and run away. Which leads me to one of my favorite parts... - John Heard saves nova by smacking a shark with a bartstool! I can't believe they never mentioned that in the podcast. - Why the fuck was that lady's dog stuck in the car in the first place? During a storm she got out of her cart, left the keys in, and locked the door? - When John Heard is chomped on by a shark, from off screen he yells "OW!" To me, this was the most hilarious moment of the movie. Ow? A shark is tearing you apart and you yell "Ow!"? Priceless. - A shark lands on their truck and for some reason doesn't just slip off how I'd imagine a wet shark normally would if it was on top of a speeding flat surface. - Fin shows no emotion at all when he learns Nova has died. "Where's Nova?" "She didn't make it." "Go with your mom blah blah blah." He doesn't not give him pause AT ALL to learn that she's dead. Is that because he knew he'd just coincidentally find her in a shark's belly minutes later? - Bus driver getting killed by one of the letters from the Hollywood sign, come on HDTGM, you're not going to mention that at all? Sharknado was a lot of fun. Did not disappoint.
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When I think "cult following" I think films that weren't commercial hits but have a sizable contingent of loyal passionate fans, and I don't think Uwe Boll films or those spoof movies really have that, there are people with bad taste who like those films but they're not really a cult following, are they? I don't think Movie 43 will have any sort of following because out of the very few people who saw it, the sheer majority thought it was awful. Most cult movies have some kind of merit or there's something really memorable about them. But this is a movie that almost nobody saw or liked, and the only reason it's even being remembered and discussed right now is because this is a forum about shitty movies. So, agree to disagree I guess. I don't think this movie has any sort of significant following in it's future. Maybe I'm wrong and you're right though, these types of things are often unpredictable.
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I would be so very surprised and confused if this movie had anything close to a cult following. It had a handful of chuckle worthy moments but it was overall just painfully unfunny to the point where I just felt kind of secondhand embarrassment for everybody involved. I honestly think this movie is simply just going to fade into obscurity.
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I mean... I feel like maybe you just lack a little bit of imagination. He wouldn't even need to be called Tonto, they could totally reinvent him, Hollywood has done far more drastic things in the past with source material. Maybe "Tonto" could be something the racist bad guys call him because they think a Native American is inferior and dumb, which the character could prove wrong. I mean, "hey, somebody's gonna be mad no matter what" is the laziest weakest excuse to not even TRY to make something not be racist. We can do practically ANYTHING in movies in 2013, but for some reason it is just not feasible that we can make a portrayal of a Native American character NOT be racist? Like... what? The character is Native American and The Lone Ranger's partner, that's all you need and there's nothing fundamentally racist about that.
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I did watch the same movie, and I was waiting for the much talked about gay undercurrent, and when the pool scene came I was like oh boy, here it comes, but nothing even remotely homosexual happened. What I got from his interaction with the girl is that he was the typical nervous around girls type of nerd. Plus he was embarrassed about not being able to swim. I didn't think there was anything unusual about the fact that he got along better with the guy, I think it's pretty typical that awkward guys are more relaxed around another guy than they are with a pretty girl. There's nothing gay to me about 2 guys getting along, or one teaching the other to swim. As for related films, I don't see how it makes sense to say this film has gay undertones because of what's in some other films.
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I feel like, how hard could it actually be to have an actual Native American person play a Native American character and write that character to not be a racist stereotype? Hollywood is very good at taking properties and changing things about them to fit whatever their whims and sensibilities are, often drastically so, why can't it take what was a racist character and subvert everything that was racist about it? I think it's just not their prerogative.
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Doesn't that say more about you guys than the movie itself that you see one guy teaching another guy how to swim as a "homoerotic undercurrent"? Is it just inherently gay for more than one male to be in a pool at the same time or something? I don't get it.
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One of my all-time favorite movies.