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I'd like to thank Jason for recommending "What Had Happened Was..." As a latent Prince Paul fan, it's just great and hilarious. I usually hate music interviews, too.

Iron Eagle is one of those truly terrible movies that ran on constant loop during the late 1980s. The plot for this movie reads like something from John Milius' cut pile. It's got all sorts of incredible 1980s-era tropes going for it, including some pretty prime Reagan-era jingoism. The pentagon apparently refused to back this film, which is why the planes are the wrong color (and type in some instances). Hercule Poirot plays the Saddam/Qaddafi bad guy. ACADEMY AWARD WINNER Lou Gossett validates the Academy's decision with his appearance in the first of four of these movies. Viewed through the modern eye, this movie could probably be described as a bit racist. I loved this movie as a kid. It's a terrible movie. I'm only surprised it was never submitted. https://www.youtube....MHLIi10&t=0m20s

Maybe Billy Zabka can guest on this episode?

Fuck yes, Problem Child is on that list.

I liked this movie. If I recall correctly, David Bowie comes out looking terrible in it.

I'm on board for Stone Cold, but if they were going to double feature with NFL legends, they had a chance with The Running Man.

My apologies to Larry B. Scott, who I mistakenly called Larry Charles. Never say die, Iron Eagle.

Good choices, guys. My object of resentment will always remain Forrest Gump. A good portion of this is because it is nostalgic garbage, but a bigger part stems from my time working at Bubba Gump's Shrimp Company.

I'm at home with my daughter, who had a nasty fall yesterday. It's been a harrowing 24 hours to say the least but all will be well. The upshot is that I've got a little time of my hands to weigh in on this, one of my favorite movies from high school. Like Cameron and grudian pointed out, this movie holds up well enough, although for 1993 it is a little backward looking. One of the hidden gems of this movie is that you get a window into a time that is nearly completely forgotten now. Almost anyone can remember Vanilla Ice and his tragicomic career has been covered elsewhere, but who remembers P.M. Dawn? I mean they fucking nailed those guys. Plus, all the Cross Colours (!), a brand that was pretty much dead by the time this movie was released. Anyways, I have a fair number of thoughts on this movie but I'll leave it there. I'm generally impressed that they could pull this movie off for $1 million and a single recognizable actor (Larry Charles).

Wait until Paul learns the translation for La Marseillaise...

On a scaffold, you say?

Here's an aside: Congratulations June on appearing on Maron's podcast -- surprised it hadn't happened already (Paul was on WTF episode 124, Jason on episode 824).

Don't watch Irreversible.

Rutger Hauer, Mimi Rogers, and Joan Chen in some pure nineties trash. I don't know when they changed the title. It was definitely "Deadlock" upon release:

Radiolab did an entire episode of this. https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/americanish

Drunk food is entirely location-dependent. Southern California has to be late night taco shops; in San Diego it was -Berto's (there are like 10 places with that suffix). In Seattle it's gotta be Dick's. At home it's popcorn.

Maybe she was... (pinkie to mouth) underwater on her houseboat payments?

Oppenheimer, they tell me you are writing poetry. I do not see how a man can work on the frontiers of physics and write poetry at the same time. They are in opposition. In science you want to say something that nobody knew before, in words which everyone can understand. In poetry you are bound to say... something that everybody knows already in words that nobody can understand. Paul Dirac (allegedly)

Iron Eagle was mine, and that one's especially bad because I hate all the messages that the movie is trying to convey.

I can't speak for June but I'm pretty certain that was a joke.

I understand these sentiments, but oddly found this to be one of my favorite episodes, even if the movie itself was total garbage. Part of what made me enjoy the episode was the genuine disagreement over how to interpret a movie that did (albeit crudely) aspire to be something bigger. My take on this is that June and Jason were arguing in favor of the movie that the filmmakers aspired to make, whereas Casey and Paul were arguing against the movie that existed. There's something to be said for trying something big and coming up short -- Heaven's Gate and Ishtar have their adherents -- and I will say that these movies make for much more enjoyable HDTGM episodes than the cynical crap that occasionally gets featured. However, at the end of the day, art is what it is. I could spend years of monumental effort and best intentions trying to sculpt like Rodin but I guarantee that it would be nowhere comparable. Or in other words, this:

Did anyone else notice that this is the sole writing credit ever attributed to Elizabeth Livingston? Apparently here is (some) of the story behind that.

Same; I remember seeing this movie as a kid and loving it largely because of the swearing. I did not enjoy my recent rewatch, so mark me for team sanity. However, seeing this movie again did clarify that I was misremembering a lot of scenes -- mixing them up with ones from Little Monsters (released two years prior). So that's something.

Ketchup and mayo is "Russian dressing" Ketchup, mayo, and relish is "Thousand island" also known as In n' Out burger sauce, which is delicious.

Definitely were; there were more varied pitches used in the old days, not less. Hoyt Wilhelm (who debuted in the 1950s) was a pure knuckleball guy.