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    all this talk of "this island earth" and mystery science theater 3000 is making this movie even funnier. This is a show made in 1988, on public access, for almost no money, with robots intended to look like crap, and yet they are a million times better than anything in this movie. they should have gotten joel hodgson to do the damn robots, it would have cost less and at least could have had some camp value, instead of being overly serious towards the least threatening robots in history.

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    I'm a bit late to this party, but I'll see if I can add anything. Despite the badness, I applaud this movie for its, shall we say, asimovian take on blade runner? There's something interesting about the less exciting world of these cops dealing with more run of the mill robot situations. It's actually a lot like the recent movie Automata, except that was a much more believable insurance adjuster inspecting claims. The every day reality of widespread robot use in the world is usually overlooked.

     

    Really looking into the robots though, why are these red chips necessary? Any computer is already completely dependant on its programming, so why couldn't any robot be programmed to kill someone? They already know to check robots for "modifications" so they quickly found these red banded microchips anyway. Are normal robots imbued with Asimov's 3 laws of robotics? This would have added a lot of depth of to the movie, and only takes a line or two.

     

    Also, how would every person have a distinct heat pattern??? Bodies are constantly changing temperature! Any time you get hot or cold the pattern would change, or when a body part is being used! And how exactly are these bullets being set to the heat pattern? So the gun has an infrared sight that is hooked up to an interface with the bullet so that when the trigger is pulled, whoever is in the sigh gets imprinted onto the bullet? Obviously you couldn't program them ahead of time because gene Simmons uses them on people he never would have known he needed to shoot.

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    I've hesitated to post this because I don't want to start a, as Cameron H. puts it, forum firestorm, but most of the people here seem chill so here goes. Adam Pally's accent bits are problematic. He reveled in them too much for them to be a critical lampooning of racist accents. Thank goodness the hosts called him out on them (in a way that saved face for Pally).

     

    Certain kinds of racial humor are like Mt. Everest. The first few summittings are notable because they were the firsts and shed some light on human nature. However, since more and more people have done it, climbing Everest have become an individualistic and vainglorious activity that adds nothing to the world except for frozen turds, garbage and corpses. I applaud the HDTGM crew for not heeding the "because it's there" siren call of those kinds of racial humor.

    I didn't know adam pally before this show, and i think he came off as kind of obnoxious and annoying. I remember June was trying to talk about something, and he completely interrupted her just so he could bring up his splinter karaoke bit, which felt so forced anyway. It was like he was thinking the whole time "oh man i can't wait to bring up my awesome joke about karaoke." it would have been funnier if it felt more natural. in general he was really laughing a bit too much at his own antics.

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    Hey, Auden! Yeah, I would agree with you from a historical standpoint, and if that were the reason posited in the movie, I would have bought that. The problem is that’s not the reason the movie puts forward. In the movie Splinter says, “Now the outside world beckons your teenage minds, but they can never understand. Their world can never be ours.”

     

    My argument is: they seem to be positively drowning in “understanding.” Everyone they meet immediately accepts and loves them. So hiding from the world kind of seems silly, again, as far as the movie is concerned.

     

    To sixgunbuddy’s point regarding keeping their identities secret to avoid experimentation, I get that as well, but again, there isn’t any “in universe” evidence to support that this would be an issue. In fact, in David Warner’s character, they have a character in the movie who could directly address this. The ooze that created them is a direct result of experiments his company was conducting, yet he doesn’t ask them for so much as a blood sample? I mean, really? That’s not even invasive. You’d think just out of scientific curiosity he’d ask for that. Then again, the libido of his scientific curiosity seems to be so flaccid that when his company loses a canister full of hazardous goop down the city's sewer he does absolutely nothing! Oh, he knows it fell into the sewer, he tells them as much when he first meets them, yet he didn’t do a damn thing to try and retrieve it. Seriously, that’s taking apathy to a whole new level!

    Alright, now you've got me thinking more about david warner and the ooze...They had no idea what this stuff did, lost a can down a sewer, and didn't care. 15 years later david warner meets these giant anthropomorphic turtles (raising a further question of why did the ooze make them more human, and why then did we not have talking samurai dandelions?), instantly puts it together that his ooze did this, and doesn't care at all. Scientifically, this stuff is absolutely amazing! the ability to manipulate DNA with that much power would change the whole world! Even if it was dangerous or eventually caused cancer, the study of it could have huge implications on disease, aging, evolution, etc. This guy would be set for life with grants flying out the wazoo if he let people know what he found. He is literally the worst scientist ever.

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    Those pizzas were being delivered to April's apartment, Mikey said "it's a good thing we saw you coming in here from the roof across the street" I assume the turtles were so starving they were monitoring Keno's progress to make sure we didn't get another "you're two minutes late dude" episode from the first film

    right, but that doesn't connect them to april's apartment or the pizzas, at least from keno's point of view. they're just some guys turtles hanging out on a roof

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    I think it's really strange that the turtles all call Keno "kid" even though they themselves are young teenagers (Splinter found the ooze canister 15 years before the start of the second movie). Keno has a job and is old enough to ride a moped so we can assume that he is a wheezy teen too, right?

     

    Donatello's 3 fingers are WAY too fat to be typing on that computer when they retrieved the ooze.

     

    Freddy, the foot clan member who is following April, smells the giant flower before concluding that they are dandelions. They are CLEARLY dandelions. Are you telling me that people are more familiar with the smell of dandelions than their appearance?

    not to mention that that is a terrible dandelion prop. it looks like a paper towel tube with some strips of paper glued to it

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  15. Posted

    here is another one, pizza on a scooter . is that real or just fantasy. I am sure i've have never seen it.

     

    In NYC delivery is on bikes, and some of them use scooters, so yes that is a real thing.

     

    here is a better example, those Chinese food containers. I have never seen Chinese food restaurants use them here. the little square boxs you see everyone eating out of in movies yet never get delivered in. mostly because of food poisoning. little paper box's can't keep the food temperature worth a shit so most places just aluminum trays. but it's a nice dream, btw some places do use them but not many for good reason.

     

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    I've lived in New Jersey and now New York, I've always gotten rice in these containers, though they are usually plain white. In new Jersey, most of the food came in them as well, though in NYC they are mostly plastic or metal trays.

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    So I have some questions regarding Keno and pizza delivery that I will hope lead to broader questions regarding the Turtles and their place in the world…

     

    So at the beginning of the movie, Keno is jumped by some thugs while on his way to deliver pizzas to April O’Neil. The Turtles step in, save him, and when he is free he finds the pizzas in the warmer bag are gone and money to pay for for the pizzas. My question is, and I have never delivered pizzas so forgive me, but doesn’t he still need to deliver those pizzas to April? I mean, if I intercept the pizza guy on his way to my neighbor’s house and pay for it, does that mean he no longer has a responsibility to deliver it to its intended destination? But that leads me to my second question…

     

    I guess we can assume that Keno is smart enough to put two and two together and figures out that the Turtles are hiding out at April’s apartment. So what does he do when he walks in and sees Raphael’s toe? He stomps the shit out of it. Now, at this point, Keno’s only interaction with the Turtles is when they saved his douchey little life. He has had no issue with the Turtles--they’ve saved his life, and we can only assume, been tipping him pretty well for all the deliveries. Why wouldn’t he just push back the screen and reveal Raph? Why was his immediate response, “This guy saved me, I should probably break his toe?” You’re in a stranger’s apartment! I don’t care if she has what she has weird-o pets she might have, you can’t just barge into people’s homes and start attacking things. But, of course, that’s when Splinter shows up and calms everyone down.

     

    Cut to: a cross-legged Keno gazing up at Splinter with awe and reverence. And this leads me to my biggest question: Why are the Turtles in hiding again? From April and Casey Jones in the first movie, to Keno, the Doctor, Vanilla Ice and everyone at the club in this one, no one seems to give the slightest shit that these guys exist! It really makes you wonder why Splinter is so adamant that they remain in the shadows… Sure there’s a bit of shock when someone first encounters them, but ultimately everyone just accepts and loves them. Why not just send out a video that says, “Hey, we exist. We’re good people. We’re looking out for you?” Is it possible that Splinter is just projecting his own crippling agoraphobia on his sons and is thus depriving them of rich and fulfilling lives?

    There's a lot to take in here. You would think that he would have eventually shown up later at April's place with pizzas, saying "sorry these are late, someone took yours."

     

    I think Keno stepping on the toes is just a continuation of him being kind of a annoying prick, like the fat shaming a not even fat girl. Also, when he shows up, I'm pretty sure that "guy across the hall" is a ruse, right? Just so he had an excuse to show up. For that matter, how the hell did he piece together that the turtles were at April's? Just from the stolen pizza at the beginning? Everyone loves pizza, that doesn't mean anything! Maybe the movie is just fading too much from my memory, was there another scene that would have helped him figure it out?

     

    As for them being in hiding, while their few public interactions have gone relatively well, I think Splinter is worried that people in general would not like them, despite the heroics. It's pretty common in all superhero stories, just the fact that they are so different, people won't completely trust them, and could turn on them any time. They could be killed, or taken away and experimented on.

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    Let's really think about it. Mikey is supposed to be the real horn dog with women, right? Or at least that's the way the kind of portray him in this movie. He flirts with April a lot and it's clear he wants to get up all on that. Michelangelo the artist, however, was definitely the opposite. There are still rumors (and let's be honest it's probably all true) that Michelangelo was gay which explains why his knowledge of the female body was sub par at best. But within those rumors are Michelangelo being rather sexual. So maybe Mikey is still supposed to embody the artist but of course they wouldn't want to have him show attraction towards men. But what if they thought that Mikey was supposed to be the antithesis of Michelangelo? What if all the turtles are supposed to act in ways their counterparts don't?

    Like Raphael being so ridiculously Brooklyn? That's kind of like an inverse of an Italian painter right?

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    This has basically become my all-time favorite thread.

     

     

    Nintendo has actually referred to him both as a dinosaur and as a dragon throughout Yoshi's history. In SMW, they refer to him as a dinosaur, but in the original Japanese version, the sign outside his house says "Super Dragon Yoshi." That led to him collecting Dragon Coins (and his Final Smash in Super Smash Bros being called the Super Dragon).

     

    So, short answer: I think both are correct.

     

    is there also some word play when translating from Japanese? I'm not an expert on the Japanese language, so I wouldn't know about the words for dinosaurs or dragons

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    I'm back with something I've been thinking about for a while. I have some dolores umbrage to take with our gracious hosts this time. They call out the casablanca joke when they are saying bye to april at the manhole cover as being dated and not something kids would know about. But I feel like that's a very common trope in kids' entertainment. There is always some influence from things that is either for adults to understand, or that the creators just love so they toss it in. There's also a certain amount of cultural references that kids just kind of go along with, even if they don't fully understand it. I know there were plenty of classic movies that I referenced as a kid without ever having seen them, just picked up from life. I always think of Animaniacs as something that had a lot of that in it, though I can't think of any specific examples right now. Anyone else know what I mean?

     

    On a side note, I was at this show, and totally saw Jason later at a not-to-be-named-here party, and personally let him know how amazing it was. I hope I wasn't out of bounds by doing that? People seem have differing opinions on going up to celebrities you see out and about. I wasn't crazy gushing or anything, I tried to play it cool, but I'm not sure how Jason feels about that kind of thing. JASON IF YOU SEE THIS AND REMEMBER THAT HAPPENING AND THOUGHT I WAS AN ASSHOLE I'M SORRY!

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  21. Posted

    Got my omissions:

    Why was shredder's armor also affected by the ooze? he grew like thirty spikes!

    Were the thugs in the beginning the foot? why weren't they in uniform? why were they casually stealing things and not at all trying to hide themselves?

    How does he type on that keyboard when he has like inch and a half wide turtle fingers???

     

    that's all for now, but ill be back!

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    Thank you! I was wondering about that and then never bothered to look it up. Also, someone mentioned earlier that it seemed like maybe he lost his powers between the 750 and 1000 pound rounds, which totally makes more sense than the impression you'd otherwise get, which is that he lost his powers before that. But if the other guy was able to do 1000 pounds, then maybe he could do 750 even without his powers?

     

    That raises another point, which is that a big part of the first act is people underestimating him because they don't know he's an Olympian demi-god, which weirdly ignores that HE'S STILL A FUCKING HUGE GUY. Mortal human or not, no one would be stepping to that guy over $2 or a fairly mild insult, yet it's constantly happening in this movie.

     

    Also, I was a little surprised they didn't mention that the MC for that weightlifting contest was Mr. Wilhelm, George's boss with the Yankees on Seinfeld.

     

     

    yeah his powers of being a demi-god were taken away, so he's just a human. so his human body should still be just as strong as it seems.why is he now so much weaker than a guy that's kind of the same size? furthermore, what if they both could lift 1000lb? would they just both be the strongest man?

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    correction possibly! when they are doing the weight lifting competition, everyone thought that he had lost his power already, but i had gotten the idea that his strength had left him between those sets, so he could easily do the 750lb (and raised it twice) but it was gone when he went to do the 1000lb.

     

    as for omissions...i dont remember anyone bringing it up, but the set for mt olympus is actually the conservatory gardens in central park. someone mentioned hearing a car honk, and the gardens are right on 5th ave so that might be why?

     

    when juno is convincing nemesis to make herc normal, nemesis completely forgets a line that i think should have been "i dare not take part in undermining the will of the gods" but ends up being "i dare not take part in undermining the....the....of the gods!"

     

    also WHY DOES JUNO JUST HAVE A RING FILLED WITH POWDER TO MAKE GODS MORTAL?!?!

     

    eta:

    why do the gangsters need pretzie to sign the contract? he doesnt seem to have actually managed herc into doing anything, so what need would there be to sign anything? isn't it hercules that should be signing a contract?

     

    i'm sure there are plenty of other things im forgetting as well

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