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  3. Posted

    Maybe I'm misinterpreting the posts here, but I don't think Margo plans to give up acting when she gets married.  In the Cub Room, where she announces her upcoming wedding, she declares "no more make believe, off stage or on" and describes her plans to play "grown up women" in future plays.  

    Speak of "modern interpretations," I see Margo as a kind of Liz Lemon.  Successful career, husband and kids, and delicious sandwiches from NJ.

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  6. Posted

    2 minutes ago, AlmostAGhost said:

    So just lying makes you a great stage actress?  Didn't she get raves for her performance?  Certainly it takes more than that?

    But yea, I think this goes to what Taylor pointed out... we don't ever see any of them act, so that makes this all sort of a (very interesting) unknown. Heck, is Margo even any good?  Or just popular?

    No, being a good liar doesn't makes you a great stage actress, but I was poking fun at Eve that she was always "on" when she was around Margo and the group.  

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  7. Posted

    2 minutes ago, AlmostAGhost said:

    Yea it could be a lie, but she does in fact turn out to be a very good actress right?  She must have some experience at it.

    Well yeah, her whole persona was an "act" 🤨

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    10 minutes ago, Cam Bert said:

    2. Her false claims about not feeling well. Again, maybe reading into the affair angle a bit much, but is it suppose to subtly imply she might be pregnant? I guess pregnancy would be more morning sickness not middle of the night, but her not feeling well doesn't seem to be that hasty of a reason to rush right over. Proudly just over thinking it all.

    LOL, is it because you recently watched The Back-up Plan?

     

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    Just now, Cam Bert said:

    Ah, that could be. I thought she was getting her hooks into him because of how Bill and Lloyd were fighting during the rehearsals. Bill, who knows about her attempt to come on to him and what she was doing to Margo, reluctantly accepts the directing position. His contempt can not be fully contained so he is extremely harsh with Eve during production, yet Lloyd was seemingly fighting for her choices. To me that was the sign that she was working her magic on him. Granted you could argue that he was just passionate about his play and trying to get it the best it could be and didn't want Bill's feelings for Eve to get in the way. That said the way he talked about what a spirit Eve brought to the part and comments to effect combined with Karen's observation that she'd never seen Bill and Lloyd fight so much before. This to me implied that he was somewhat bewitched. How far down that road I'm not sure, but he was on it for sure even if for a short while.

    Yes, I totally agree he was at the least "bewitched" lol.  It definitely showed when Lloyd ran up to New Haven in the middle of the night to help calm her down.  

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  10. Posted

    11 minutes ago, Cam Bert said:

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    Look how fat that eggplant is!  😍

    21 minutes ago, Cam Bert said:

    I am more wondering why Karen would stick by her Lloyd after everything. I mean he put her through the ringer, and while it might be easy to chalk things up to "oh Eve was manipulating him" considering he was going to run away with her and they were having some sort of affair, Karen sticking by him and Margo and Bill sticking by him is more questionable to me. I guess if they can forgive Lloyd then Margo can forgive Karen.

    Interesting.  I thought Eve made up the story (or at least heavily embellished) the Lloyd affair.  I thought she "spilled her beans" to Addison, thinking he would publish it in his column and really breakup Lloyd and Karen's marriage.  

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  11. Posted

    Another thing - do you think Karen ever came clean to Margo about the car?  On one hand, they're best friends and I'd imagine keeping a big secret like this would be a burden on Karen, but on the other hand, if Margo ever found out, I don't think she would forgive Karen - or at least it would take a long time before Margo came around.  

    And I can't post a ss of this scene, but in the scene where Karen was painting, did anyone else catch that she was doing a still life of a bowl of bananas and a big fat eggplant.  That made me chuckle.  

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  12. Posted

    10 minutes ago, taylorannephoto said:

    At that point I did, yeah. Margo was more confident about herself for the first time that whole movie, and I think that probably changed a lot in their relationship. Going through that shit with Eve was probably their hardest hurdle to jump, but they did it and I think they'll be able to survive anything.

    I mean in the long run.

  13. Posted

    19 hours ago, WatchOutForSnakes said:

    Good point. Perhaps its more accurate to say I'm bummed that it seemed that marriage was tipping point in her character arc.

    On the other hand, I could write a  novel about the feels I have about Margo and Bill's relationship. It feels really genuine to me in a way that movies of that era usually don't. Maybe it's the chemistry they had on screen, but also the script. She says that Bill is in love with "Margo" the actress, not Margo the person, but she's wrong. He sees her for who she really is, like when he tells her that he loves her because of some of her traits and in spite of others because they're "her tools" for navigating the cut-throat stage world. He's notably younger than her, but he's not a plaything to her. The really respect each other. They fight a lot, but they communicate. They're honest. I love that about the two of them. For all of the acting and performances and airs that people put on both on the stage and off, they seem most genuine with each other. I'm just in love with the two of them in love with each other. 

    And relevant to nothing, I also loved the whole "incomplete forward pass" line. Great turn of phrase. 

    I totally agree about the chemistry between Margo and Bill - it's not a huge surprise that the actors themselves fell in love on set and got married - but did anyone really think that Margo and Bill were gonna live "happily ever after"?  

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  14. Posted

    On 8/9/2018 at 7:31 PM, CameronH said:

    What Eve wants is Margo’s fame, what she needs is Margo’s support system.

    Totally agree.  I actually felt a bit bad for Eve at the award ceremony at the end when only one woman who didn't hate her stopped by to congratulate her.  This is a major award and people should be fawning all over her, but people at the award ceremony just file out, more focused on the after-party.  

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  15. Posted

    Putting this in spoilers because it's kind of a silly topic.

    In the scene with Karen and Lloyd after the newspaper column gets printed, Lloyd receives a call from Margo.  She invites them to the Cub Room and Karen sort of says in disbelief "Margo in the Cub Room. I couldn't be more surprised if she'd said Grant's Tomb."  But why?  Apparently the Cub Room was the VIP room at the most exclusive/prestigious club in Manhattan, The Stork Club.  If Margo was a well known theater actress, why would anyone be surprised to find her there?  I mean, check out the list of the famous people who frequented the club.

    Anyway, at the Cub Room, I was struck by the the scene where Margo bites into a stalk of celery.  

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    Are you telling me that in this swanky VIP room of the most exclusive club in the city, you're given raw celery to eat as an appetizer?  Then I remembered a similar scene another movie I recently watched, Easter Parade (1948).  In a scene taking place at a fancy looking restaurant, the diners start out their lunch with, what else, raw celery stalks.

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    Is there a less appetizing dish than raw celery stalks?  No. No there isn't.  Turns out I'm not the only one flummoxed by people voluntarily eating raw celery stalks at nice restaurants.  Here's an awesome blog about food and charts.  The blogger also noticed the popularity of celery in restaurants - as seen by the frequency of its appearance on menus.  He charted the data and found that:

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    The golden age of celery on restaurant menus was from around 1900 to 1949, where around 20-40% of menus had an item called “celery.” Once the 1950s arrived, however, there was a was dramatic and complete drop: celery makes only 29 appearances after 1949 on the 2,226 analyzed menus.

      It's like people suddenly grew taste buds after 1950s and realized celery was horrendous.  That's my explanation.

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  16. Posted

    On 8/9/2018 at 11:47 AM, The_Triple_Lindy said:

    The dialogue is biting, witty, and full of puns and double entendre and metaphor. 

    My favorite was after the newspaper column comes out, Lloyd mentions to Karen that Eve had stopped by to see him to apologize.  And Karen says "On her knees, no doubt." 

    5 hours ago, CameronH said:

    I'm not sure if this was intentional or not, but I thought it was interesting that the play Margo was called Aged in Wood when, generally speaking, wood tends to get stronger as it ages.

    As wood ages, it gets more lines (i.e. wrinkles) though.  

    Ok so did anyone else disappointed that we didn't get to see Birdie at the end?  She sort of disappears.  And where exactly did Birdie come from?  She's slightly older than Margo and they reference her vaudeville act.  At first I thought maybe Margo Eve-d Birdie, but Margo came onto the scene at age 4, so my theory doesn't work.  Anyway, the actress, Thelma Ritter, had a face that I recognized from other movies, but I just couldn't remember - then I looked her up and she was in a bunch of things, like Rear Window.  And turns out she's one of 3 actresses with the most Oscar acting nominations without wins (6 noms, along with Glen Close and Deborah Kerr).

    ETA: I think some of these things were mentioned on the podcast already 😬

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  17. Posted

    On 8/9/2018 at 1:17 PM, gigitastic said:

    Like June I like a "Bigger Boy/Girl" but I prefer mine come in a feline shape.  Both my  current cats refuse to get fat and are just really fluffy unlike their predecessor who had the noble distinction of having the epitaph of Her Royal Rotundness . Please enjoy a photo of HRR Gracie in all her glory

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    Aw, picture doesn't work.  😾

  19. Posted

    3 hours ago, JammerLea said:

    Sorry, was out of the house for a while.

    I've been having a rough time recently with stress and my health, so I'm not picking anything amazing, but an old favorite of mine for comfort. I hope no one minds.

    Welcome to my childhood.

     

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    You better believe I had all the finger puppets from McDonald's.

     

     

    In the poster, Oliver and the gang are in a walkup building (fire escape), but they must be in the Burj Khalifa of walkups because the other buildings are tiny. 

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  21. Posted

    I voted yes on King Kong mainly for the stop motion special effects.  However, personally, this wouldn't be on my list of top 100 films.  Besides the obvious racism and misogyny, sometimes it was so slow that my mind kept wandering.  When something finally happened, it was usually something being killed.  For example, the way they kept shooting that stegosaurus went on forever, it was kind of upsetting.  And King Kong is supposed to be a beast, I get that, but he kills everything and anyone and this made me appreciate later adaptations (and "rip-offs" like Mighty Joe Young) where you feel more sympathy for the ape.  I guess I prefer my Kong to be more than just a brainless brute who smashes things.

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  22. Posted

    34 minutes ago, hotironskillet said:

    He seems to have no idea how to cook for a large amount of people either. His timing is all off. He's got tons and tons of pasta cooked and ready to go but there are piles of raw meat sitting out on the counters. The meat is going to take way longer to cook than the pasta, Giorgio. Get it together.

    Steak tartare?

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  23. Posted

    Coincidentally, I'm going to see Turandot later this year and while I'm trying not to read too much about it (hello 100 year old spoilers), I've read that the story is supposed to be set in China, so June was probably right that Pavarotti was in stage makeup.   

    Some popular uses of Nessun Dorma in pop culture - in Rogue Nation Ilsa is supposed to pull the trigger at:

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    And in the last episode of Season 1 of Netflix's Daredevil, Nessun Dorma was used for the arrest scene and the version they used was Pavarotti's.  

     

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