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Wait, Adam Scott?? Where?? I liked the Hellraiser ones, they had a very fantastical feel to them that was fun.

Sammich found a DVD pack with a bunch of the Friday the 13th movies and wanted me to watch the 3D one specifically. Checking letterboxd, I have the first movie checked off as watched too, but I don't remember watching it at all... I'm confused...

I have glasses, but I never wear them lol that may be part of the problem.

Sammich recently had me try watching the old Friday the 13th Part III 3D movie with the red/blue glasses. It totally gave me a headache. I think we switched to 2D about a 1/3rd of the way in. The 3D for current movies doesn't bother me AS much, but I prefer to pass it up. I don't even play my Nintendo 3DS with the 3D turned on.

I was thinking of unsubscribing from the Paramount Theater mailing list since the HDTGM show is past, but then I just got notification... RuPaul's Drag Race: Werq the World Tour Oh... well... Hello, future Austin trip... I need more ways to make money...

We started watching it after we curiously started watching the Drag Race reviews by Movie Bitches. And we started watching the Movie Bitches reviews because of HDTGM....!!

And now I present to you, the most awkward way to hold a horizontal layout photograph

You have put way more thought into this than I think I could ever hope to. I am quite impressed.

I kind of disagree. There still has to be one timeline where nothing happens to Mia or House, because nothing was supposed to happen to her or it. It was Silva who put that event in motion because JCVD was becoming a threat in 2004. I think it's more like Silva's goons going back to (unsuccessfully) kill JCVD ends up cancelling out that original timeline from Oct 10th, 1994 on, and then that second timeline replaces the original one. But there's still sooo many questions that are unanswered, especially in your chart as to why Fielding never joined TEC. I was thinking maybe it was that Silva had hired her from the start to infiltrate TEC as a double agent for his money schemes, and then after young Silva killed off the chip company partner, he didn't need to hire these double agents. However, Fielding is still part of TEC in the Silva-less branch, so that theory is incorrect. You could posit the idea that because JCVD gets evidence from injured Fielding in 1994, maybe Silva decided she too was a threat and went after her prior to her applying to TEC, but that doesn't really work either because then there'd be no reason to kill 2004 Fielding in 1994, and JCVD already has her blood evidence anyway (not that he needs it). Ugh... I don't even know what I'm trying to figure out anymore. Seriously, IT'S AS IF THE LOGIC OF TIMECOP IS FLAWED. Also I still don't think it would be a rebuild of the same house. I mean, I guess maybe she could've kept/found the original blue print somewhere, but they really should've given it a fresh coat of paint if they were going for that conclusion. I will agree on this, that this moment feels so out of place when JCVD (or his conciousness) is able to stay so separate from the time changes that occur. Pretty sure someone was just like, "Guys, I know how to do this cool special effect!!"

I think it's definitely just for the reason that they wanted the kid to be 10 years old. I was wondering if they might've been able to pull it off if instead they set the beginning in 2004 and then the future in 2014, but the answer is still a big fat NO. Back to the Future Part II was a least little bit better at suspending disbelief with the 20 year gap, even though it was still wrong. I have a section in my notes that is just What is this toy car? "Capable of eating his young" Srsly these cars Nothing besides the cars looks updated. "Play tape" lol I guess the cars just make me really angry from an artistic standpoint.

Sorry I've missed the last couple musicals, things have been a little crazy...

So these leftover items would become OOPArts? I could get behind this, but there's still no excuse for that fugly car. Where did all the designers go?? I thought the turbo car in The Wraith, looked way more futuristic, and that model came out in 1984.

But then how are we gonna get more DNA for our dinosaur theme parks?

I'm gonna point out another time jump in the episode for those who weren't there. Early in the show, after June is introduced, you may hear periodically a light hissing sound. This was addressed during the show for a bit with Paul (I think) questioning if the theater was deflating. It ended up being a technical issue with June's mic, and the theater staff replaced it a bit later. I'm surprised they cut it out so seamlessly. I understand why, but it was pretty funny, so I'm a little sad lol

Okay, let me point out something else I had in my notes to get my mind off my sad phone call. After JCVD finds his wife's blood vial in the hospital, he returns to Rueben's room to say he's going to get her out of there. Rueben is unresponsive, to which JCVD turns her head over and she's obviously dead as her heart monitor flatlines immediately. This is due to the baddies poisoning her IV. Did anyone else find this to seem a bit off? Like I don't doubt that she would die, but shouldn't the heart monitor show signs of some sort of irregular heartbeat before flatlining?? It's perfectly normal until JCVD touches her face!

Yeah, they went through and changed the whoooooooole wiki article, including the section about his passing. orz ALL RIGHT I MADE A CALL TO PAULASK DESPITE MY PHONE ANXIETY. I KNOW I MESSED UP SOME. MY HEART IS POUNDING. I'M GOING TO GO DIE NOW GOOD NIGHT.

I remembered you can browse through past changes on wikis.

Aw, the vandalism has been removed already. I knew I should've taken a screenshot...

May luck be on your side, good sir.

WAIT Going off of what I just posted!!! Timeline two JCVD ends up in the 4th timeline and this is where he thwarts Silver, young and old, OUT OF EXISTENCE. Because young Silver ALSO no longer exists, he will never grow up to send his goons back to 1994 to blow ups JCVD's house!! So the end of the movie is sending us to a 5th timeline where Silver does not exist. And this is where time loops become rampant, because if Silver doesn't exist, there's no reason for JCVD to investigate him, which would then cancel out the events that led up to Silver's death, and... well... good luck thinking that through. My head hurts now...

The way this movie sets it up, 2004 JCVD is becoming more and more a separate entity from the timeline we started with. The above diagram doesn't cover everything. There must be, before the start of the movie one timeline where absolutely nothing happens to JCVD and his wife. He joins the time police, but then way in the future starts investigating Silver. Silver catches on to him, and sends his goons back to 1994. The whereabouts of this JCVD are UNKNOWN. 2nd timeline starts with the above. The goons arrive in 1994, they attack JCVD but fail to kill him, however Mia dies. This JCVD gets to the year 2004, starts investigating Silver. This is the JCVD we follow for the rest of the movie. He ends up joining up with the girl who's the double agent. And their blast to the past to uncover Silver meeting young Silver is what sets off Silver's goal to go back to 1994 and kill young JCVD before he can become this badass time cop. Here we enter a third timeline, because when JCVD ends up back in the present, his boss doesn't know who he is. Meaning possibly one of these 1994 assassination attempts was successful, or somehow prevented/discouraged JCVD from joining the time cops, CORRECTION* he is not best friends with his boss anymore, leave the whereabouts of non-best friend timeline three JCVD as also UNKNOWN. Timeline two JCVD uses his knowledge of salty goulash to get a free trip back to 1994 to get evidence. So we enter timeline four, where JCVD at some point realizes that Silver and his goons have fucked with time and THAT'S why his wife ended up dead, giving him the permission to stop them, according to time cop rules, he's preventing their messing with the timeline to cancel out timeline two. This is all fine and dandy, except as stated above, this would leave timeline four with TWO JCVD's: the one who raised a kid and the one who is a lost remnant of timeline two. Because of how this film sets up that JCVD remains separate from the time changes that are being inflicted by his adventure, he never gains the memories of the life that he could have had in timelines 3 or 4, and thus cannot be the same JCVD who raises his kid. They're going to have some fun when timeline 4 JCVD gets home from work. Something like that. Feel free to expand or reinterpret. *Thank you SeanMatthewLeary for correcting my false memory of this insanity.

I hate to say it, but this is where I feel that Time Chasers did it better. You really want your head to hurt, let's start discussing all the time loop issues.

I haven't listened to the episode yet, but I mean... I was there, SO- I just wanted to share one of my earliest notes from watching this movie, when the Confederate soldiers were attacked. "Horses seem okay against machine guns. Good breed." I totally also had notes on how the gold carbon dating doesn't work for both reasons listed previously. Also I kinda mentioned this to Taylor and Fister after the show, but this movie is not the first bit of time travel entertainment that I've seen touch upon the theory that the same matter cannot occupy the same space. My first introduction to the concept was from a 2001 Playstation 2 game called "Shadow of Destiny", in which two of its multiple endings involved a character coming into contact with themselves from a different time and then ceasing to exist. So I thought, oh maybe there's some scientific theory that goes into why this could be a thing, but after a quick google search, it seems that Timecop is most probably the originator of that time "law", and somehow that concept made it into this 2001 Japanese video game. The closest scientific principle seems to be the Pauli Exclusion Principle, which the basic concept seems to be a general rule that an object cannot occupy the same space and time as another object. This means time travel would be very difficult to accomplish, because if you travel back in time to a street corner to the exact spot where someone or something else already exists... there's going to be a problem. I didn't delve too much into this, as it's too complicated for my understanding, but if this is the principle that Timecop's law is based on, they got a few details wrong.

Here let me one up the embarrassment