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I was yelling "It's ChunkStyle! It's ChunkStyle!" in my kitchen this morning. Ha! Awesome. :D/>

Hey thanks Cinco! I'm surprised as hell when these things happen.

This fact that ChunkStyle brings up cannot be over emphasized. No one talks about it at all in this movie, rendering it as no big deal but the invention and implementation of artificial gravity is HUGE. If you're into space stuff I highly recommend Mary Roach's book "Packing for Mars" and while I cannot give Ms. Roach justice by trying to regurgitate her eloquent research about space travel, I can summarize part of it this way: without artificial gravity humanity will never really be able to truly explore outer space... at least in person. It is one of the biggest puzzle pieces to long term space exploration. I totally agree that they probably had to film it this way because of money (and maybe they didn't even want to try after Gravity's success a few years prior), but it is funny to me that they gloss over something so profound. In the world of this film I can only hope that someone off in the background is utilizing this new technology to send a ship of pilgrims into space to find a new planet since earth is effectively broken.

Totally missed that!

After the car chase between The Prez's crew in the electric car and Evil Mr. Bean, Ed Harris and one of his cronies set up a rocket launcher to take them down as they come barreling down the highway. The car comes into view as predicted and is then taken out by the launcher - bing bang boom - but the President et al were not in the car after all... that's right, they sent in a decoy while they came in from the side like Raptors on an Australian dude. Soooo... How exactly did they make this happen? Just a brick on the gas pedal and a prayer? Or was it another scenerio where they tricked some poor sap to be a decoy driver. "Hey you, homeless guy in the underpass... you can have this car if you drive it straight ahead as fast as you can." That car was driving awful straight for there to be no driver. President Andy Garcia might not be so innocent afterall...You decide.

This excites me.

I am very cool with skipping Sucker Punch and F5. Yay Mac and Me!

Dudes... I figured out who wrote this movie. https://youtu.be/FCHZqT3mR5I?t=9 (Because you probably didn't watch it) Rosemary (Carrie Fisher): "OK, let's find a pen and start that screenplay. This movie is going to knock them on their asses!" Liz (Tina Fey): "Right... what's it about?" Rosemary: "Women in their 50's join the army, and get laid by a bunch of grateful 18 year olds." Liz: "Oh god" Rosemary: "Yea, exactly. I predict opening week...a million dollars!"

Interestingly enough, it did not make me uncomfortable. When they started getting with the boys I was screaming at my TV "Yeah gurl... You GET your groove back!"

#1 - the theme of this movie really could be "wouldn't our life be easier if we were just lezzos" #2 - I'm totally with you that the water imagery is sexually based. I also think it is literally shows them being an isolated island onto themselves... they are socially self-reliant and don't need anyone else besides each other (and their respective sons so they can get that sweet, sweet D) but are actually fulfilled by their own platonic intimacy.

Not ONLY that - but the 2 sons each have a daughter with their "menopause beard" wives... so if the boys are sexual surrogates to NW and RWP, those daughters are their surrogate children with their borderline incestuous lovers, and by extension each other.

KOTH is probably my favorite show, and I know exactly the episode... and I think Dale hides it in his hat. Also - Dale carries the loosey because he's comically addicted to smoking. BUT - I relent in that you are probably right. That guy (lets call him sexy son #1) knew he was going to want to hang out on the sin dock and would want a smoke when he got there, so perhaps he planned ahead. You'd think he would have just rolled a J and really gone for the gusto. The tiny liquor bottles were probably cool-ish by being hidden in a dark, dank hidey hole... but yeah... that shit's probably nasty.

Here's a thing: When RWP swims up to find her totally-not-blood-related-but-known-all-his-life-and-might-as-well-be-her-son on the barge of hedonism ©, she asks to take a drag off his cigarette. How the fuck did they get that cigarette there? And what did they light it with? That could not have been left on the dock like the airplane liquor bottles, it would have been so damp it would have never lit. Did he pack a ziplock with a single smoke and a lighter? If so where did he cram it so it wouldn't fall out when he swam there... that suit doesn't look like it has pockets to me. Did he use nature's pocket? I need answers.

I think there is definitely a hedonistic bent to this story. When we first meet the gals they are running off to go swimming and climb onto their barge where they have a small stash of alcohol. They sip some rum and lay in the sun, in-love with their life and maybe each other. Their life is simple and perfect. We revisit this time and time again in this movie - this idea that this place is a pleasure island of sorts. I especially think of the later scene where they are enjoying their new affairs and sunsoaked happy life when each boy announces that they would be retiring to their respective lovers bedroom. The ladies are shocked at the boldness of their sons attitudes about it--they're young and hot and want some fucking sex now--the women share a look, but they KNOW that each would be giving into their hedonistic desires and running off to fuck their young studs. That's some dirty bad hedonism right there I tellyouwhut. I really think what this movie is trying to say... maybe in a clunky way... is that these women have such a strong kinship that they gave birth to each other's soul mates. They are indeed not "Lezzos." They are definitely sexually attracted to men, but really only need the relationship with each other (an island to themselves) and have no use for any other people. Therefore the boys are just their hedonistic, sexual fulfillment of their sisterly relationship. It's a way to having it all, in a kind of fucked up way.

I haven't watched this movie, but I feel this way at all times.

My favorite Madonna film. It opens with a Betty Boop style cartoon and has an amazing long running gag with a rolls Royce. C’est magnifique!

The only thing I remembered about this from when I was a kid was the jaberwocky at the end of Part 1 and it scared the shit out of me. Now it just looks like a sweaty godzilla suit with some kite strings and vaseline, but what's crazy is that my memory is so visceral that coupled with the dread of Alice being "through the looking glass", the unease of her not being able to communicate with her parents, the lightning, and the doom music I can completely remember why I was scared... it made my cold, black, adult heart race a little. There's something so unsettling about this story that I don't find in its most similar YA fiction cousin: The Wizard of Oz... or at least in the Alice film adaptations. I've read them both but its been so long that I could not talk about the actual books with any confidence. Alice's journey is so menacing... possibly because she doesn't really pick up friends along the way that Dorothy does. In this adaptation the Duchess seems to like Alice... and to some extent Kojack cat is friendly, but otherwise everyone is so hostile to her all the time. Everyone is like "jesus kid... Gah!" at every turn. Even the Disney version is fairly dark. Disney's Alice has not really had the relevance that most of the classic movie's have enjoyed, I guess it's because Alice is technically not a princess? She is still pretty spoiled regardless. Fun story - I bought Disney's Alice for my Niece's birthday last year (With a tea set to go along) but I'm not sure they ever watched it and I'm pretty sure it was deemed too dark... and/or it isn't filled with mind-gouging 3D effects. Aka: eye crack.

This is obviously the correct assumption - why else would the Cheshire cat be FUCKING bald.

I could be the walrus... I'd still have to bum rides off of people. Anyhoo...I have to say one thing that really stood out to me is the use of fantastic Women Of A Certain Age. I could be wrong, but I have a feeling this would NOT be the ways of casting if this were re-done today.

Thanks again Grudlian!

Too late!

Ha! This just occurred to me, but she completely pusses out when a man she thinks is a predatorial pedophile goes to touch her daughter (grand daughter?) WAY TO GO, lady.

I'd like to take a moment to recognize an unsung hero of this fine film... Ladybug player #3: Tina. I'm not sure they ever actually say her name in the film, but she's ever-present in the soccer sequences and is a hidden gem because she's super sassy. She's rolling her eyes while Welfelt is talking, she's taunting the other team, and near the end she straight up punches a few girls on the field. She only has a few lines... She's my hero.