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I actually didn't find it difficult at all. Granted, I planned out my watching so that, really, I watched in 10-15 minute increments so it wouldn't get boring. There was plenty of absolutely bananas-silly moments for me to enjoy and a few other, surprising, things that appealed to me. Sure, there was a good amount of amateurish film-making and distasteful bits, but it had a pair of strong, intelligent female leads, which is more than I can say for a lot of action movies made NOW.

A fascinating conjecture. However, if we are getting into spiritual metaphysics, maybe we can explain the "matter occupying the same space" conundrum of Timecop with the Mind-body dualism of René Descartes. Since regular ol' corporeal matter from different times clearly occupies the same space quite frequently in Timecop, from (as you pointed out) air to clothes to vehicles, perhaps the film is positing that the mind or spirit is a separate yet non-physical entity, one that cannot occupy the same physical shell or body as another. This collapse of the mind-body dualism into a singular form is why Ron Silver melts into metaphysical goo at the end, thus dying both physically and spiritually.

Mer-Magic!

It's a pretty nifty way that a bunch of us HDTGM Board Buds can keep track of each other's film opinions and watching habits. Creepy? Nah, just community-building! I just really appreciate that Paul is willing to engage with us on the boards. Not only that, but I also appreciate Cameron H. being erudite and patient enough to explain his points in civil, measured, and intelligent discussion. This is what the Internet is supposed to be. Still, when I read comments saying that Logan is bloated and boring...

My stance on the sneering, ironic "shitty on purpose because genuine passion for art and joy are for chumps" sort of movie-making, embodied in bullshit like Sharknado, has been... NO THANK YOU. But I guess I will just have to watch Hard Ticket to Hawaii to see if it falls into that category. I hope it doesn't, but "tits, right?" has never been enough for me to enjoy a movie. I spent my youth enamored with Arnold's exposed pectorals more than anything.

Ooph, now I am dreading this...

As far as schlock vs. other types of movies go, I have a real soft spot for 80s cheese, and I also enjoy the low-key time travel BONKERS of Lake House. I honestly had more fun watching that film and both Ninja Terminator and Chopping Mall than Fate of the Furious, which I found dull, interminably long, and just as misogynistic (though clearly in very different ways) as Chopping Mall. Plus, the 80s and 90s Super Clunkers are obviously easier on my wallet. I also enjoyed the HDTGM episodes coming from those movies more, since I did not have to listen to how this Fast movie IS SO AMAZING because 1,000 CGI cars fall off a building while Vin Diesel emotes with all the range of a sea snail. With all that said I am TOTALLY UP for Queen of the Damned or The Marine.

Well, this seems like destiny to me because this is the third unconnected peer group that has recently suggested I read/watch a Dark Mermaid Story... and my brother is always eager for whatever "weird Polish movies" I can suggest. Awesome. Let's do this. (I feel like I could explain the above facts but I think I prefer them without context.)

I only had a passing familiarity with Mr. Blow before watching Krush Groove but I thought he comported himself with aplomb. He was charismatic, handsome, and his performances were great. He even had an emotional scene with a rippling, sweaty, and ripped Blair Underwood. He impressed me as an actor better than any of the musicians (except Sheila E., who had a completely different energy anyway) and seemed more comfortable performing his music on film than even Run DMC, and especially Fat Boyz. Maybe because, as the clip above suggests, he had been performing on camera since at least 1980?

This is a great Correction and Omission! I just sort of rolled my eyes at the lightning strike thing because it was recently used as a reason for faster-than-light communication between galaxies in My Stepmother is an Alien and, as previously mentioned, for Johnny 5's sentience in Short Circuit. That some Quintessential Bonkers Nonsense. If you will allow me, I think we can solve this through a Shared Universe Theory (an insane one, but it's not like any of these HDTGM movies make sense). Maybe these lightning strikes causing chaos for our technological breakthroughs are actually punishment from Zeus, the Greek god of lighting and transforming into animals so he can rape women. The same Zeus from Hercules in New York! After all the chaos caused by Hercules venturing into New York, Zeus has been frustrated with those increasingly pesky, hubris-filled humans. As a result, he is determined to send divinely-directed lighting strikes down to punish us arrogant mortals. We try to travel to or communicate with the heavens? Lightning strike! We try to usurp the power of the gods and create life in the form of automated security robots? Lighting strike! Zeus gave us a taste of what can really happen when we try to mold life out of inanimate objects! It rebels against you! Zeus knows all about that, as Greek mythology is replete with weird spontaneous generation of life and inter-generational conflict. He did, after all, overthrow his father Cronus who had eaten the rest of his children.... and Cronus himself had overthrown his father Uranus after cutting his dad's dick off. The Greeks! They're sick!

I think this, and the very crowded nature of the plot (Run DMC, Fat Boyz, Russel, and Sheila E all having their own plotlines) make this seem like a direct descendant of the Rock n' Roll musical movies of the 1950s and 60s. Think Rock Around the Clock, the few Chuck Berry movies made to showcase him, the Elvis movies, or even the beach movie in That Thing You Do. Granted, those movies were more designed to sell a single or an artist rather than a soundtrack (since the modern conception of a soundtrack didn't really exist then), but it's the same idea. I think this was intentional by Rubin and Russel Simmons, as they were creating the "Hip-Hop is the new Rock n' Roll" narrative since the very beginnings of Def Jam. Through cultural touchstones almost as much as the music, they've been instrumental in making it true.

Speaking of Blair Underwood and age, here is an image of him from this year or last year, but if you told me this picture, of a 50-year-old-man, was taken five years after Krush Groove was made, I would believe you... I think I have a... krush on him.

As someone who is more grossed out by seeing other people eat than anything in film, this scene is FUCKING BONKERS. Not only gross, but it also suggests that Sbarro also carries fresh baked baked, artisan cheese, and dry aged salami? As an Italian, I find that offesive! Fuck you, Fat Boyz! It would be harder to love you... if it weren't for your rhymes as fresh as that bread you are CLEARLY stealing from that shopowner somehow leftover from a movie about 1910s New York.

Thank you for reminding me that this exists. It brightened my evening exceedingly well. Oh, Hanks...

Personally, I could stand this thread to go on for Munch, Munch longer....

I don't wear glasses, but the lack of clarity in a 3D image does bother me. It's like looking at the screen is a glimpse into the vision of what people who need prescription glasses see day-to-day.

Yeah, this exact same thing happens to me. Maybe it's a combination of the physical pressure of the glasses on the bridge of my nose and the 3D images? I'm not sure, but I always have to take the glasses off at several points in the film and look away from the screen. So why pay more for a less pleasurable, downright painful experience? Apart from animated films, I did think Gravity used 3D well, along with Hugo and Tintin. There were moments in Dredd that were really interesting as well, since I remember the drug freakout sections of that film manifested a different dynamic in 3D. As you can probably tell from the release dates of those films, it's been a while since I enjoyed a 3D movie. I think the last one I even tried was Rogue One, and I only went to that because I was going with a group of friends.... and it was kind of infuriating.

The issue of killing JCVD as a child in order to prevent him from ever even being a candidate to join the TEC was brought up, similar to the "go back in time to kill Baby Hitler" scenario. This kind of thinking always has bothered me, even in regards to Killing Baby Hitler. The issue of thinking you can accomplish an overall good by murdering an infant notwithstanding, who knows what chaos you will create by killing a historical figure at that young an age? If you kill Hitler, as per this example, before he reaches his first birthday, who's to say that some other disaffected, ludicrously antisemitic World War One veteran wouldn't rise up through the ranks of the National Socialist Party and lead Germany to genocide and war? Or, failing that, another country in Europe, like France, with a history of fierce antisemitism (see: The Dreyfus Affair), could have a fascist revolution and a Holocaust all its own. Maybe the German Communist Party, whom the Nazis battled fiercely before Hitler was made chancellor, takes over Germany in the 1930s and allies with the Soviet Union and that Hypothetical Axis commits its own series of genocides across Europe and Asia because, hell, Stalin murdered tens of millions of his own people, including many Jews, so why not citizens of territories he conquered? I'm not saying Hitler ISN'T history's greatest monster, all I'm saying is, if we had the ability to time travel, maybe we could put that technology to better use to solving the world's ills than pulling a King Herod and murdering babies before they commit any sort of malfeasance besides, I dunno, biting too hard white nursing. We face the same set of logical obstacles with going back to kill baby JCVD to prevent him from joining the, or even being aware of, the TEC... though with not as apocalyptic consequences as affecting the outcome of WWII. Obviously, a villain as dastardly as Donald Trump Ron Silva has no compunction about time traveling for personal gain. Hell, he probably prefers any sort of trip through time that involves murder. He's like someone planning a four hour layover in Austin, Texas so he or she can grab some barbecue on the way from New York to LA, only Silva is making excuses to machine gun Confederate soldiers while robbing gold. Though, if he helped the Union win the Civil War, maybe he's not all bad? ANYWAY, if Silva goes back to kill Baby JCVD and accomplishes his Murder Mission, what's preventing the nascent TEC, 30 years later, from recruiting another, maybe even more competent cop, for its time-copping police force? Maybe one who isn't so confused by time-travel or terrible at investigating crimes? Sure, that cop would probably not have the sweet buns or awesome high kicks as Jean-Claude, and that cop CERTAINLY wouldn't have those tantalizing splits, but the TEC would still exist without him. Maybe a better option would be to kill that cadre of secret agents we see brief the Senate committee in the opening scene or even that doctor who invented time travel. But then you run the risk of time travel never being invented (or at least being available to you). Then you'd never be able to go back in time to commit murder to facilitate your plans of going back in time to commit robbery to fund a presidential campaign.... guys, it's almost as if the logic of TimeCop doesn't hold up. And I wouldn't have it any other way <3

ALSO, what do you get when the most charismatic Australian gets to sing and dance in a top hat and tails with the star of High School Musical? HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS WE SHOULD DO THIS MOVIE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXCTMGYUg9A

I was late to the Harry Potter party as well, but I remember watching Chamber of Secrets with my brothers on television. It is a movie that features a giant talking snake whisper dark things about smelling blood while trying to murder children. I thought, "this is a franchise for me!" I have been hooked, for more profound reason than that, ever since. Read all the books, own all he movies, am a sucker for Potter-themed clothing. I am a Nerd Caricature.

Say "Hi" to your mother for me. I spent much of high school listening to Korn (Uuuuugh), NIN, and Rob Zombie, so I think you can all surmise where my opinion on Spice Girls and the various boy bands are. HOWEVER, when I first saw the BSB video for "Everybody," I just kind of thought, "soooo... pop music is embracing horror movies now? Cool I guess." So I always had sort of a soft spot for them. Scary stuff, guys I also thought, being a 14-year-old dumb-dumb, they were yet another band I hadn't heard of and that I was supposed to like them because of the frequent references to how they were "back," even though they were brand new. I WAS A DISAFFECTED YOUTH IS WHAT I AM SAYING. *puts on black t-shirt and listens to The Downward Spiral*

Wouldn't a better title for this thread be.... "WHEN is Timecop"? I'm a terrible person.... and I'm not sorry.

I like the way you autocorrect...

Hell yes. I must have watched that Drunken Master fight three or four times because, you know, it was actually pretty great. The best sequence in the series. Now if we could have the Drunken Master fight Jaguar Wong in Ninja Terminator, I would actively qualify it as a good movie.