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  1. Posted

    There is a Troll 1. It's also pretty bad and the movie wasn't intended to be a sequel, someone decided that it should ride on the success of Troll for some reason.

     

     

    Actually, Troll seems to be overlooked, but it would actually be a good movie for HDTGM

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    I think that a couple of the big problems with the discussions of this nature are that a) they are by nature hard to measure since it is an internal attitude that someone may or may not be willing to admit and B) we all to often rely on anecdotes when these are really statistical issues.

    Maybe hypothetically they refer to a black supporting cast member by nickname only 80% of the time, but only 30% of the time for a white supporting cast member, maybe they're both 50% I don't know and really nobody here has taken the time to listen to each episode carefully and quantify how they refer to supporting cast members by race. All we have are specific incidents where they have done one or the other. In my opinion it makes it really hard to have a meaningful discussion about discrimination when all you have are examples and counterexamples.

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    My 2 cents:

     

    Nature abhors a vacuum. Black characters tend to be either minor/supporting characters, and/or have historically been less-than ideal roles (the old-timey mammy & butler stuff, the blaxploitation roles of the 70s, the random junkie stuff in the 80s, the Singleton-ripoff gangsta/prison movies of the early 90s etc). There are exceptions, mostly in the form a few sitcoms, but people enjoy Perry's form of representation, I think; there are middle and occasionally upper-class families shown, as if Black people are, you know, normal American human beings.

     

    In terms of content Perry gets to have his cake and eat it, too- the morality plays are successful because they have a broad appeal; you get to have the juicy soap opera turns, while also appealing (or pandering) to a Christian audience, which is where Perry found much of his success (Kirk Cameron is actually a fair analogy). After a point you get momentum, and you have so many people talking about or recommending his movies, that even someone like me who had no interest in his movies has seen one, because my brother and his wife like some of his stuff and we ended up watching one of his D+ efforts at a gathering once.

     

    Finally, most people don't care how good movies are, if they're not egregiously bad; there are a lot of very successful movies that have made tens or hundreds of millions of dollars by appealing to the right audience at the right time (Adam Sandler, Michael Bay, Roland Emmercih, etc). People even tolerate your forgettable run-of-the-mill Redbox fodder like Jack Reacher or Lone Ranger or Red Tails or (random sequel), because they were okay, and they don't expect better, and/or don't watch movies to see something novel or expert.

     

    But it's not like Tyler Perry is the Jackie Robinson of film making. There have been many other black directors that have come before him with successful movies like Jon Singleton or Antoine Fuqua and movies like the Friday or Babrbershop franchise and yet Perry is somehow the standout.

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    Did Perry actually intend for the marriage counselor being Judith to be a surprise?

     

    Between the subtitle, "Confessions of a Marriage Counselor" and the whole "my sister/a friend of mine" trope, I thought it was supposed to be obvious from the outset that the titular marriage counselor was Judith.

     

    I honestly don't know. This was my first Tyler Perry film so I don't have a good grasp of his work.

     

    It's sort of like if an adult came up to you and said "Why did the chicken cross the road? I bet you'll never guess!" and you thought "to get to the other side" was too obvious so you gave up and asked why and they said "To get to the other side!!!" It's almost too obvious. In this sense the twist in this movie is a lot like Now You See Me.

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    This particular forum is so PC that yall are calling the hosts racist because you're thinking of all the ways they could come off racist just cause it's a Tyler Perry movie lol. I think you are all failing to understand that they watch and talk about SHIT movies with SHIT characters who don't deserve to be referred to by their character names, unless they are Chev Chelios or Hulkster. Take off ur judgmental pants and put on ur "oh this movie was awful, let's enjoy the roasting of it" pants. I mean, this movie is racist as fuck, and you're worried about characters not being treated with respect? Oh boy.

     

    Some of the best episodes of the show have been when they've not just made fun of a movie, but broken it down, ie Punisher, Superman III or The Room or when they've not agreed like with The Odd Life of Timothy Green.

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    Part of me does wonder if it would be a little more difficult to get an African American comedian to guest on this episode just because they might be worried that it would hurt their chances of being in a Tyler Perry produced movie in the future. I mean, even if he makes arguably bad movies there is no denying that he's got a lot of power to get stuff made. Not to say that they shouldn't try their hardest to get an African American guest, but I would understand why many would be hesitant.

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    100% agree with you. I took "the other one" the same way. Her character was only in the movie to be a prop for Mariah's character. She was just a friend for the sole purpose of being lost and show the audience how Mariah's character was losing her way. I did not feel that calling her "the other one" was a slam or slight against her ethnicity at all. If anything it was a slam against the writer. Kind of like, "Why should I look up this character on IMDb, when you don't make her a character worth looking up."

     

    I said this in a previous post, but--unless I am missing something--Temptation does not have anything to do with race, so I do not see how the podcast will be racially insensitive. They have no reason even to bring it up. At no point does a character in the movie say anything like, "Being a black man in America..." or anything like that. It is the one thing I probably do like about the movie. Even at its worst, it is about people, their race is inconsequential to the story. Even the old white lady at the pharmacy isn't racist, just homophobic. Which isn't better of course, but I hope you get my meaning.

     

    I guess I am saying, I don't think they should avoid talking about a crazy, fucked up movie, with TONS of horrible things happening, just because the cast is primarily Black.

     

    If anyone cares, I see Harley as "Sexy Satan," Brice as "Nerdy Jesus," and Judith as "the Incompetent Counselor."

     

    While Temptation isn't about race, there is a huge racial divide in the appeal of Tyler Perry movies. Most of the time there is a pretty broad distaste (at least by adults) for the movies they choose.

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    - That client not realizing it was her was less dumb than Brice and Melinda not connecting the dots on Harley. Like, they were staying together and seem to have had extensive discussions about his wife leaving him for this guy and her abusive ex, yet neither one ever mentioned his name? EVEN THOUGH HE WAS A FAMOUS SOCIAL MEDIA MOGUL?!?

     

    You mean the largest social media inventor since Zuckerberg? </monotone>

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    I watched this last night and a few thoughts:

     

    - Kirk Cameron would watch this movie and say "tone it down Tyler Perry"

     

    - I know that there is a pretty strong argument for misogyny in this film, but it is interesting that his appeal is pretty broad in the African American community. He has several shows on Oprah's network alone. There's gotta be more to it than just "Tyler Perry hates women."

     

    - Whether or not Tyler Perry hates women, he certainly hates his audience as evidenced by his decision to let Kim Karashian "act" in this movie.

  21. Posted

    So I saw this movie for the first time probably a year ago. I don't think that it quite holds up and it requires a lot of things to go right but it's not a bad movie. More than anything this movie was at the beginning of the twist ending craze of the 2000s and as such I don't think it's quite fair to judge it by what has been built upon since.

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    How is he being a troll by just posting a clip saying no, when you're the one calling names?

     

     

    I admit that my 2nd post probably came off harsher than I had intended, but alas that's the internet where there is no tonal inflection. However, when someone goes to personal insults I just grab the popcorn and let them go.

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