RyanSz

I actually really liked this movie and I'm not the biggest fan of Superman, though I do love more current stories like Red Son and Earth One. I was about to make a joke thread for this movie but someone beat me to it and made a real one. This is why when I see threads like this I always comment "this is why we can't have nice things." It's either a troll thread by someone who just created an account or someone who doesn't get the show. And as justinmh05 said, the good blockbusters this year are getting called out for no reason except for nitpicking, and notice how the threads are made my a new member as their first post, and they never post again more often than not. I loved in this movie how it wasn't the same old origin story that we have heard and seen before, but rather quick flashbacks. The action was good and I was surprised how they developed the Kent/Lane relationship which will make it interesting to see how they carry it over to the sequels. If anything I would rather see an episode on This Is the End, which while a really funny movie, has some insane moments and cameos, and I think the guys could get Seth Rogen in to talk about it since he was Dirty Randy on the League.

I never had a problem with Rocky 4, Rocky 5 on the other hand should be buried in the same landfill as Shaq Fu and E.T. the game. Rocky Balboa was a really good end to that franchise with good storytelling and characters. This movie actually gave a hint of Stallone accepting his old age as an actor with everything in the movie: the fight was an exhibition rather than a title fight, Rocky only starts to come back when the champ breaks his hand, and Rocky loses even though he put up a valiant effort against a boxer half his age.

90s-2000s Tavolta is a guilty pleasure of mine in that he's like Nic Cage with how crazy he can get. General's Daughter was kind of heavy handed, but it was vintage Travolta nutso-nes at times.

In his first few comedic roles and Wedding Crashers, but these are basically all the same character.

I thought General's Daughter came out before Basic. The only real time constraint in Basic was that "Dunbar" was going to be shipped off for court martial in like 6 hours so they had to figure out what happened in order to know what to charge the survivors with, if anything. Tim Daly's character brought up the idea that it may have something to do with Travolta's group but didn't know what.

The montage at the end was quick cuts of squad members saying the same thing in each of their stories about having their story straight. What they didn't show was how they went from that shack in the middle of the jungle to what the Col. saw in the helicopter of soldiers shooting at each other. Also, one thing that did bug me about the movie besides that was how they mixed up two of the soldiers. The one who was accused of killing Sam Jackson stole Taye Diggs' dogtags and said he was Dunbar, but it wasn't until Harry Connick Jr. said that Dunbar was black that Travolta "realized" he was being duped. Wouldn't an army base have personnel files with pictures attached to them?

What was missing from the twist was what really happened. You see that all but two people in that platoon were in on it, but you never saw how they really pulled it off.

This looks like classic Stallone crap. From him stereotyping Asians to having an ax fight with the guy from the Conan remake, this movie looks horrible. It seems that Stallone still thinks he can hang in today's action movies. The Expendables are great because they acknowledge the craziness of movies like this along with the actors getting older. Arnold Schwarzenegger understood it with The Last Stand and Bruce Willis understands it to an extent in the Die Hard sequels, but for some reason Stallone still thinks he's 20 years younger than he is.

Those parts of the movie, like the vault scene, are exposed by Morgan Freeman's character. And the vault's explanation is complicated and simple at the same time, where they basically pulled an Ocean's Eleven to do it.

Safe was a pretty good action flick though and it came out last year. The kid in that movie didn't have any disorder, but rather was a math prodigy who had a photographic memory. Also, that movie had one of the funniest twists on the final fight against the main bad guy in an action movie.

Will Smith has an established history of turning down memorable roles for shit (Wild, Wild West instead of the Matrix). And this movie was his pet project. He picked a director who wouldn't be getting major jobs otherwise who would curtail to Will's whims, he was responsible for the story, and the producers were either members of the Smith or Pinkett family or were a friend of Will Smith for years.

So this really is Will Smith's Battlefield Earth as I remember John Travolta constantly changing his accent in that movie.

Well to be fair they did kill the programmers.

What I never got from watching the movie was why put the code in a magazine in the first place? You're just asking for trouble at that point.

This movie HAS to be done on the show. While it's not as WTF insane as the original, there are still some moments that made my head spin. Plus since Jonathan Tiersten was on the message board for the original movie and said that he would be interested in doing the episode, it makes it that much more fantastic.

Paul F. Tompkins back on the show? Fuck Yes!

I was amazed at what people were expecting this movie to be reading negative comments about it. They instantly assumed that the two must be similar if there are car chases involved.

Even though Empire's twist makes it better, there was no foundation for it except that Obi Wan spoke through a different POV describing Annakin's death, which was even made fun of in the Robot Chicken specials as to how it was thrown in due to that fact. Fight Club was made intentionally ambiguous by David Fincher so as to not spoil the twist. The only real clues that Fincher and actors mentioned in the DVD commentary were the Brad Pitt single frames and the conversation between Norton and Carter after the first night she had sex Tyler Durden, other than that it was all very gray. These twists work in that they themselves are the foundation which cause you to go back and watch again with a new understanding, not that they were built into from the beginning. I agree that the characters are all pretty cardboard in Now You See Me, but the twist had foundation in the descriptions of the dead magician and the misdirection nature of magic in general, yes it may have been phoned in like Signs, but the foundation was there.

But there are movies where the pieces aren't there and work. Empire Strikes Back comes to mind as it was completely out of the blue that Vader was Luke's Father, Fight Club's only real clue was a quick scene between Ed Norton and Helena Bonham Carter in the beginning of the movie and miniscule cuts showing Tyler in the beginning a la the dick shots in animated movies, and the original Saw's twist was out of nowhere as Jigsaw was barely shown before the reveal. This movie's twist isn't the best but it's definitely not the worst, Signs and High Tension come to mind for that honor.

But with Fight Club and Sixth Sense the clues were fairly well hidden, especially in the latter, that they required multiple viewings or reading interviews to get the understanding. This movie earns its twist with its use of misdirection as the audience was thinking that the Interpol agent was behind it the whole time, when in the end it wasn't the case. The character who was behind it all was essentially a mole. You go just enough to give the perception that you are trying to bring down some thieves, but not enough to actually catch them. It's like how Matt Damon/Leo DiCaprio in the Departed would do what was necessary to keep their cover, but not so much as to completely give themselves away.

You would be surprised, the movie basically falls into three main camps: those who absolutely loved the movie for one reason or another, those who didn't understand what all the fuss was about but thought it had good moments, and those who felt cheated by the trailers that made it seem like a giant action/chase movie and were expecting something like Fast and Furious.

But the whole idea of a twist is to not be fair to the audience as it messes with perceived notions of the audience. Fight Club, The Sixth Sense, Saw, The Empire Strikes Back, all had twists that played with the notions of the audience and were not in line with the behavior of characters, that is why they are twists. Look at the Usual Suspects, the whole movie is basically a two armed man (Verbal Kint) beating up a one armed man (the audience) in a fistfight story-wise. He spends the bulk of two hours telling us a story of how over two dozen men died in a "drug deal gone bad" only for the audience to find out at the end that not only was he behind it all, but that he was the mythical Keyser Soze. None of what he said was in line with his behavior up to that point, but that is why it is the twist.

It had a very good 80s thriller feel to it, especially the first half of the movie. The whole movie was like a modern Taxi Driver with a loner trying to keep himself above the darkness of the world but ultimately falling into it in order to save a woman they feel protective of. Even the endings are similarly ambiguous with how we don't know if the characters have survived their ordeals or if it is all a dream.

The twist's foundation was mentioned in how the dead magician had prepared for a trick 20 years in advance by putting a card in a tree. The character who put the plan into motion needed to do something above and beyond to get back at those who wronged him and his family, but needed a way to make it so that it would not be obvious to those he was targeting, the proverbial misdirection.

I didn't think this one was so bad. The twist was perfect in line with the theme of magic and its properties, though the idea of the secret society was a bit much. Plus you have a scene where even Morgan Freeman's character narrates his own DVD within the movie, you can't go wrong with that.