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Apocalypto vs. Braveheart would be an interesting Mel Versus.

On the other hand, the impact of Passion on the box office is still felt today in that it sort of opened the door for what I'd label "church group" movies. Plus, the role that movie played in arguably one of the 2-3 biggest movie stars of his era will always make it relevant to certain discussions.

They're both movies I consider to be bad. However, Passion stands out historically a lot more than Last Temptation does. So I cast a reluctant vote for that weirdo Mel Gibson and suggest people read Kazantzakis's novel instead of watching either movie. I also want to briefly address Evan and Amy expressing exacerbation that Gibson said his movie is about forgiveness...it's important to understand that he's not necessarily talking about what's explicitly on the screen. That statement has to do with the viewer's relationship to the movie. I grew up in the southern evangelical community, and it was not unusual for speakers to address the crucifixion of Christ in graphic terms as a sort of embodiment of the punishment for our sins. I think we're meant to relate to Christ's suffering as what we had coming. So from that perspective, I get what he's going for.

Double post.

IV's a bad movie though. It might be fun, but most of its fun derives from it being really bad. Plus, there's a huge pivotal sequence that almost entirely involves recycled footage. It's lazy and cheap.

Rocky III achieved everything Rocky IV did without being a bad movie.

Having interacting and watched others interact with Devin online, he's equal opportunity condescender. Amy is sort of his perfect foil because she's got super interesting, well researched opinions that are often borderline crazy, some of which seem centered on the positive or negative portrayal of people with blonde hair in cinema. It's fun to listen to her wind him up without even trying that hard.

An easy yes for me. Great discussion going on in this episode. I've always thought the movie is as much about the fraudulence of male messianic complexes towards women as it is about the evil nature of women. But there's definitely more layers to it than just those two interpretations. Kinda wish this was an Antichrist vs. The War of the Roses episode though.

Bumping for the butt weasels.

Tell us how you really feel though...

I might look like Erik Per Sullivan, But at least I don't look like John Merrick per The Elephant Man...John Hurt.