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Also, the part where they say Chong Li is silent whenever he wins, he does let out some high pitch caterwaul of victory when he thinks he has beaten Dux, which is ironic, considering Jackson did the same with him.
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Fans of Opie and Anthony could liken him to their security guy, Club Soda Kenny
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Or, a Youtube channel, about bad video games (E.T., Superman 64, Rise of the Robots etc.) and call it "How Did This Get Played?!"
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Did anybody else notice the part where a guy gets kicked in the face, and he falls the in the wrong direction?
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Makes sense, because if you watch the part where Ray Jackson says "No shit you honour his invitation", it's clear that he's just waiting for an "Action", but he's done it more than one, it's like "We honour your invitation" - Cut to Jackson - wait - "No shit your honour his invitation"
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Are you not aware of Miami Vice?!
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Oddly enough, the first two UFCs were like that, the referee was literally there to just start the fight, and hold the winner's hand up. But a match with Pat Smith literally smashing Scott Morris's face at UFC II with elbows made John McCarthy go to the owners and say "Look, you need to let me stop these fights, because somebody's gonna die out there". So, it was the same principle, start the fight, when he's decided to stop kicking the shit out of the guy, then the match is over.
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There's a slight split second where you actually see Chong-Li wave the referee off, so the fight wasn't over. With Dux vs. Hossein, the fight was called. Check at 0:56, Chong Li was only on his knee.
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I have a theory on Ray Jackson, and I've only just thought about it, even though I first watched it when I was around 5 or 6 (Grandmother would literally get us ANYTHING from the video shop). Ray was a spectator at the previous Kumite, so he saw Chong-Li kill Tanaka's son, and he talks about how Chong-Li "Kicked the poor bastard in the throat, then he just stood there and watched him die". He says it with a slight tinge of sadness and perhaps disgust that a guy shows up to a tournament which is supposed to be about respect and honour, and kills a guy, and just watches as it happens, taking pleasure from doing it. So, Ray then decides "Fuck this guy, I'm entering next year", hence him picking out Chong-Li and screaming "I'm gonna kill you!" at him. Because he saw him kill this guy in the tournament, and he wanted to take revenge on Chong-Li for the kid he saw getting killed. So, Jackson bonds with Dux, because he's the representative of the guy he saw die, and he wants to see someone kick the fuck out of this guy who has effected his life by gleefully killing someone right in front of him I doubt it is that, but it would explain why Jackson took to Dux so quickly.
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And that is how Sonya Blade got pregnant with Cassie Cage
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Now the talk of low blows has reminded me of Keith Hackney, punching Joe Son (aka 'Random Task' in Austin Powers)
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Anyone else see a weird irony, where Ray Jackson walks in on Dux doing the splits, and saying "You should be careful with that, you might want to have kids some day", and later, Dux does the splits, and punches a guy in the balls? Just let that settle in, a guy who literally explodes bricks, punches a guy in the balls! People gave Chong-Li shit for killing someone, but he didn't resort to treating a ball sack like a speed bag. I think that disregard for reproductive organs is what essentially won Dux the Kumite.
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It gets even better, because Bloodsport 2 and Kickboxer 2 are identical stories to their predecessors: Bloodsport 2, I talked about previously in this thread. Kickboxer 2 - Kurt and Eric Sloane are killed by Tong Po, but there is a third Sloane brother, David! Well, David wants to avenge the death of his brothers, so he wants to fight Tong Po. And gets Xian to train him for the fight.
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Believe it or not, there are actually 5 Kickboxer movies, and Tong Po features in three of them. Qissi plays Tong Po in the first 2, but when Tong Po returns in Kickboxer 4, he looked like this... Because it was an entirely different guy, and they had to use even more make up, which resulted in the botched botox look, and now, for some reason, instead of a Muay Thai Champion in Thailand, he's now the head of a drug cartel, in Mexico. What makes it worse is they use archive footage of the first Kickboxer movie, showing that it's an entirely different guy. The Kickboxer series is fucking insane.
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The version that Dux tells is that it wasn't single elimination of the course of a few days, it was months. Where you can fight guys more than once. Like K-1, they would have a World Grand Prix, where it just looks like it's a tournament of 8 in one night. But they have tournaments in Asia, Europe, America and Oceana. So guys who win that, end up in the World Grand Prix, so I think it might be a situation like that. Not only that, Frank Dux is a notorious bullshit artist.
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I know I'm posting a lot, but I'm doing this as I'm listening, but I'm glad Paul brought up the sequels, because they're batshit insane. The main guy in all three is played by Daniel Bernhardt, and Ray Jackson does return in Bloodsport 2, which is basically the same as the original. Long and short of it is: Daniel Bernardt plays street thief, Alex Cardo, who steals an ancient sword from wealthy businessman David Leung (played by Pat Morita) and is sent to prison after his partners betray him. Whilst in prison, he meets Master Sun (played by James Hong). Leung finds out that his sword is being awarded to the winner of the Kumite, and he sends Alex and Master Sun to fight in the Kumite to retrieve it, however, he has to fight "Demon", the most brutal prison guard where he was incarcerated. Bloodsport 3: Daniel Bernhardt returns as Alex Cardo, who vows vengeance when Master Sun is killed by a crimelord, and has to go through the Kumite to avenge his trainer's death. Bloodsport 4: Daniel Bernhardt returns as Alex Cardo... except he fucking isn't... he's now "John Keller". So Alex Cardo no longer exists, neither does Pat Morita, or that entire story. He's now this other guy, who has to go undercover, as there is a Kumite going on in a prison, where prisoners are being forced to fight to the death.
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On top of everything, Frank Dux actually took JCVD to court, but he didn't want money, he was just trying to get him out of the Hollywood lifestyle, get him to go to drug rehab and to see his kids.
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I'm halfway through, and it's the best episode yet.
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Now, the question is, who would win a fight, Chong-Li? Or Tong Po? Well, Chong-Li would, because the Chong Li fought a guy in the tournament by the name of "Suan Parades", Suan Parades was played by Michael Qissi, who also played Tong Po in Kickboxer
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I rewatched Michael Schiavello's interview with Frank Dux to go along with this episode, Bloodsport is just the tip of the iceberg. It's well known within the Martial Arts community that Dux is a 10th Degree black belt in the art of Lai-Ying-Ah-Sol. Even though he spoke for the "Oral History" with Blake, he's a bullshit artist, and he'll come up with different stories. But, let's just say this. Imagine Chuck Norris making up the Chuck Norris Facts, but wasn't doing it as a joke and took them seriously, you'd have Frank Dux Some of the more memorable claims that Dux has made; - He once beat 66 people in a Tug of War, on his own... Whilst standing on one leg - He also beat 23 people in a Tug of War, on his own in a kneeling position - Bruce Lee was told that Frank Dux was much faster than he is, and Bruce Lee just had to meet him. - Dux has to wear Sunglasses because the injuries sustained in his fight career cause two brain tumours, which made his eyes very sensitive, he was given a 10000/1 chance of survival. - Dux is the only man on record to break bullet proof glass with one punch - Dux was offered $25,000 to kill the guy down the street from his dojo. That guy? Steven Seagal! - Dux pratically invented Vale Tudo shorts, which are basically bike shorts - Dux has done work for the CIA, the Navy SEALS and Ukranian Counter Terrorism units - Frank Dux was the inspiration behind the UFC, as his nickname was "The Ultimate Fighter". - Frank Dux actually wrote "The Quest", but he was screwed out of his writing credit. - He sold a sword he won in a Kumite in an attempt to free some enslaved children - He had his military records rewritten to eradicate certain events - He was bestowed a rank of a Soviet Army Captain However, speaking of the UFC, Frank Dux does have a tangential connection to the UFC. In 1993, Dux got beaten up by a guy in the first tournament, a guy by the name of "Nasty" Zane Frazier, who is known for knocking himself out when he and his opponent rolled out of the ring and hit the floor. But, Dux's version of the event is that Frazier sucker punched Dux with Brass Knuckles so hard that it's left four small square imprints in his skull, and then "Five UFC Guys" jumped him, and started hitting him whilst he was down. Here's where it gets weird. Zane Frazier came out with a couple of stories about Frank Dux, but these stories should always be taken with a couple of fistfuls of salt. - Frank Dux tried to get some of his students to rob a bank as a part of some weird "Ninja Training" - Dux tried to order a hit on Frazier and his wife because Frazier kicked his ass. Now, as for Dux's recollection of the "real" events of Bloodsport - The "real" tournament actually took place in the Bahamas - Chong-Li was real - Ray Jackson was a composite of two people - Chong-Li killed more than the two people in the movie - Dux and Chong-Li fought on more than one occasion, and Dux won every time - The blinding happened, but it wasn't a powder, it was the same substance Sonny Liston used when fighting Cassius Clay. - The brick thing happened too. - He caught a fish with his hands at a restaurant, but the fish he caught cost $4,000 And, the Mortal Kombat character, Johnny Cage was inspired by JCVD in Bloodsport, as you'll remember in the Mortal Kombat episode. Mortal Kombat was originally going to be a JCVD project. Somewhat ironically, he pulled out as he was about to star in the Street Fighter movie, which then became it's own terrible game. But Johnny Cage wears the same outfit that Van Damme wears in Bloodsport, and even does the nut punch today.
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Top 5 movies for you personnally that they have not done yet
Smigg replied to Snake's topic in How Did This Get Made?
Jesus Christ, why the hell is it so damned glossy? Ever since Michael/Janet Jackson and Puff Daddy made those ridiculously expensive videos, it seemed like everyone wanted on the bandwagon. -
Top 5 movies for you personnally that they have not done yet
Smigg replied to Snake's topic in How Did This Get Made?
Mortal Kombat Annihilation - I've been waiting too long for this, quite frankly, if I don't get it soon, I'm gonna start powerbombing people over it, not even punching people, pro-wrestling moves all the way. Ready to Rumble - A film about pro-wrestling which had actual consequences. The star, David Arquette, ended up winning the World Title in 'real life', against his will I hasten to add (They literally said, 'You're in a movie which we funded, so you better take this belt'), which sped up the process of WCW going out of business. Honest - Take 'Spice World', now, replace the Spice Girls with their "Edgy and Cool" counterparts, All Saints: Okay, now instead of the sacharine, loud, brightly coloured, farcical family comedy for their tween girl fans to enjoy. Make it a grim, Lock Stock inspired cockney gangster movie, which their adolescent fan base couldn't watch because it was rated 18... and nobody else could watch it, because it was shit, the only saving grace that this movie had was that teenage boys got a glimpse of their tits, and that's it. Full English Breakfast - Okay, take 'The Room', and replace Tommy Wiseau with British plastic gangster, Dave Courtney Now, replace the hilariously bad story, with what essentially amounts to "British Gangsters vs. The Taliban". It is actually WORSE than The Room, imagine the fun you had watching how bad the Room is, remove it. I can honestly see Jason losing his mind to him pulling chunks of beard out and eating it. Mortal Kombat Annihilation - I just really want them to do this movie. Honourable Mention - Battle of the Year. -
It looks like he's had some wicked Botox.
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This is how bad Kickboxer 4 is, look at how bad the make up is to make the guy look like Tong Po Baring in mind, this is what the original Tong Po looked like Which is amazing, because he was actually this guy The guy who got his leg broke by Chong Li in Bloodsport.
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There are 4, with a reboot coming soon. Believe it or not, there are actually 5 Kickboxer movies Kickboxer 2 - JCVD and his brother are killed by Tong Po, but they have another brother who now wants to fight Tong Po, and is trained by the guy in Kickboxer. Peter Boyle (aka, Frank Barone) is in this too. Kickboxer 3 - They're now in Brazil, and they go to investigate a sex trafficking ring, because apparently, that's a job for a kickboxer, and not the police. Kickboxer 4 - The guy is now in prison after being framed for murder, but his wife has been kidnapped, by Tong Po. Who is now played by an entirely different guy, and for some reason, he's in Mexico, and is now a Drug Lord and is holding a secret Martial Arts Tournament that is in no way a Kumite on his compound. So they have the guy go undercover to fight in it... the former World Kickboxing Champion, who has already fought Tong Po after Tong Po killed his two brothers. Kickboxer 5 - So, that guy's dead now, and Marc Dacascos is the lead, and now he's fighting in South Africa because there's a group of guys forcing people to fight in their secret, in no way is it a Kumite, competition and if they refuse, they're murdered.