Cameron H.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Zeus' objection for Hercules going to Earth is that he fears humans will try to "destroy him because he is different?" Um...actually, aside from a couple of misunderstandings regarding the etiquette behind forced conscription, everyone seems to LOVE Hercules. In fact, the only real danger he finds himself in is because of the Olympians own meddling. Had Zeus not sent Nemesis down to punish him, Hercules would have probably just gone on being revered by everyone he comes across. Also, Mr. Narrator, it's me, Cameron H, talking. You better sit down for this. I know you think you're being clever by combining "History" and "Myth" in the opening to suggest that "Mystery" is somehow a portmanteau of the two words, but it's not. Stop kidding yourself. You're being a Stupidiot.

Didn't it suck when the government made it mandatory to listen to How Did this Get Made and we were all forced to listen to Jason Mantzoukas' insensitive jokes? Oh wait...

Not only that, we're told he cracked a couple of the boyfriend's ribs, but later, when everyone is gushing over Herc, the boyfriend says, "Yeah, I like him too!" It's okay dude, you don't have to like the guy who beat you up and stole your girlfriend. Don't be a doormat.

They did bring it up in the episode, but this actually raises a couple of interesting theological questions… Does this mean that the Greek Gods just co-opt the figures of other religions when it suits their purposes? Also, according to the Old Testament, Samson was granted his great strength and power to fight the enemies of Israel, which would have probably included Gentile cultures such as the Greeks. Was it awkward for Samson when he died and realized he had been fighting his whole life for the wrong team? What I do think we can take away from this movie is, that regardless of someone’s personal faith, that when we die, we will end up in whatever afterlife happens to exist--no questions asked. In a way, I think we can all take comfort in that. So believe whatever you want, and don’t judge others for their beliefs, because in all likelihood, we will all just be drinking mead with Thor in Valhalla anyway… Hercules in New York: the Key to World Peace and the End of Religious Strife

I get you, but my point was less about their image and more about how they are conducting their business ass-backward.

Fantastic episode! I do think I have an answer for why the mobsters are driving a beat up station wagon. Simply put: they are the worst gangsters in the world. Now I don’t know much about illegal sports gambling, but I’m pretty sure the key isn’t to put an odds on favorite athlete under contract and then have him compete honestly. They are shocked when Pluto puts 20 grand on Hercules to lose—what a god needs with money, I guess we’ll never know-- but what would the payout be if he were to win? A couple of hundred dollars? Wouldn’t the better scheme be for them to put their money on Herc to lose and then have him take a dive? This would then better explain their anger when Hercules’ hubris doesn’t allow him to do so… Also, when they try to buyout his contract, Pretzie tells them they don’t have a formal arrangement. At that point, why are they still willing to give Pretzie money? Couldn’t they just tell him, “Sorry about your luck” and save their money? And they say there’s no honor among thieves….

Wait a second...it's Friday already? There's a new HDTGM? And it's the first episode since Tango and Cash to have Paul, Jason, AND June for the full episode? Well, fuck...

Oh, I agree with you. It would have been much more overt (offensive) in the 80's and 90's. What we did get though was a three minute montage of Pretzie lovingly and wistfully remembering all the hijinks that Hercules got in to during his visit--including, apparently, moments he wasn't even present for..? I mean, I wasn't paying too much attention during the bear fight scene, but was Pretzie hiding in the bushes or something? I wouldn't put it past him. Oh Pretzie--you truly are a treasure of cinema.

Are you suggesting there weren't wacky gay overtones? If so, I think I may have completely misread this movie...

Yeah, I think I had to break it up into three viewings. It was good, but every so often I would pause thinking I had been watching for an hour and only 30 mins had passed. As far as the Olympians go...not so much "theatrical" for me. More like watching a porn where all the sex had been edited out.

Here's one to get you started...

The Dodo: God's Most Kickable Creature ...just look at that ribcage

Just finished watching...wow. Simply...Incredible! Thumbs up!

Hey man, I just Wiki'ed them and got a list of all the wide releases. Not too sure about 1981, but I remember Alone in the Dark from Uwe Boll being pretty crap. Also xXx: State of the Union. And this may be weird to some, at least it was to me, apparently a Zorro movie was released in both 1981 and 2005, Zorro, the Gay Blade and The Legend of Zorro respectively. http://en.wikipedia....ki/1981_in_film http://en.wikipedia....ki/2005_in_film

Yeah, it's on Netflix. I think he was just giving alternatives.

Is this just me? When I watch Scheer-RL and compare it to the corresponding TRL episode, the Scheer-RL version matches my memory of the event better than the actual version.

First of all, thank you, Ana! I appreciate you defying the Internet Gods by making the assumption that I don't drug and torture my pets. You're making the Web a better place! To your point though, we never actually see Azazello get shocked. Yes, he has the implant, but he never gets shocked on film. Even when he arguably should be shocked, when--against all their Laws--he executes Lo-Mai, he gets off pretty much scott free--which really can't be too good for Moreau's credibility. I got the feeling that the liveried footman monsters were getting special treatment, and he seemed to have an especially close relationship with Kilmer. I could actually see it if he killed Moreau, as he was the architect of this Carnival of Insanity, but Kilmer?? They were Bros! And Azazello is a dirty piece of dog shit for betraying his bestie just to get in with the cool kids! (...Fuck, high school flash back. Sorry about that...I'm better now.)

Oh Boy! A science question! I don't think it's Thewlis' DNA specifically. However, when he first encounters Balk's character, she is 95% human already, yet they make a big stink that Thewlis' DNA is needed to keep her from reverting. So this raises two questions: 1) Why was Balk so humanoid in the beginning? Where were they getting the DNA to stabilize her prior to his arrival? She looks to be in her mid-twenties or so, but from what we are shown, it doesn't seem like her more "human" aspect is a recent development. So why is his DNA important now? 2) When it is revealed that they are using Thewlis' DNA, Kilmer basically tells him, "It's either you or her," but why? We're never told how they are extracting Thewlis' DNA, but I imagine it is just via blood sample. If that's the case, why is everyone acting like Moreau is going to straight up murder Thewlis? Wouldn't they need him alive so they can harvest more samples from him? And considering how attached Thewlis is to Balk, you would think he would be receptive of the idea if it meant making her more human. I mean, it would have been nice if they at least attempted to explain their "science," but I guess they felt people running through the jungle and screaming like fucking idiots would be more entertaining... They were wrong.

Okay guys, we've had a lot of fun here today, but I just wanted to address a couple of points here: This thread is pretty short and after a quick perusal, I have not read a single post where someone accused you of being old. The closest thing is GGG's Gran Torino pic, and honestly, it was pretty damn funny. Just relax man, we're all here to have fun. If you are going to go on a public forum be prepared to be made fun of. Especially if you are going to make a broad statement about any specific thing. You could have said "I hate cheesecake" and probably have gotten about the same response. If people are calling you "old" for hating rap, that may be something you are carrying over from real life. Just make sure your ire is directed in the right direction. I take offense to this term as well. You have used it multiple times to express your views when, frankly, there is a whole world of words out there you could use to express the same sentiment. Words are powerful and shouldn't just be bandied about. Also, using this term in this way is doing nothing to support your argument. I, of course, use the word "argument" loosely as you have done little but say "I hate rap" and act surprised when everyone isn't leaping to agree/defend you. You DO have allies, my friend. I am certain many people feel the same way as you do, but when you respond the way you have, you are just alienating yourself from your supporters. No, what Quasar Sniffer said is correct, whether you like it or not. If you can't tell the difference between rap/hip-hop songs that sounds like ignorance on your part. And I am using the word "ignorance" not as an insult, but by definition "lacking knowledge or information." I'm not saying you have to go out and "learn" rap. You don't like it and that's cool, but you can't dismiss an entire art form/movement simply because you can't tell the difference between a Tupac and a Kanye. No one is saying you can't say whatever you want, but....if you go onto *gasp* the Internet and get both overly aggressive and defensive, people are going to call you out on it. I mean, you started this thread to start a discussion, right? Well, don't be pissed if not everyone shares your views. Have a goddamn discussion! Look man, I'm sure you're a good guy. I'm just saying, consider, not just what you're saying, but how you're saying it. This is a fun place. Lighten up! Have a sense of humor. Fuck, make fun of me if you want. As much as I try to suppress it, a little bit of the troll comes out of me every once in a while. Besides, I've solved all our problems. Two words: rap metal. Anyone know what this guy is up to?

If I may, I have observations of my own that I think dovetail nicely with what you wrote... Thewlis' acting. Dear God, I know the man can act, but for Christ's sake, make some eye contact! No matter who he was acting with he was always gazing either just off screen or somewhere in the ethereal middle-distance. I couldn't make out it if he was just trying to avoid getting an eyeful of Kilmer's junk or what was going on. You bring up a good point in that none of the humans actually kill Lo-Mai. So later, should he really be surprised when Hyena-Swine betrays and kills him? You killed his or her (Hyena's are matriarchal after all) lover! Hey Hyena monster, I just killed your partner, can I roll with you? Oops...you shot me, who could have predicted this unfortunate turn of events? I found the scene where Kilmer is shot to be deeply unsettling. Not because he dies, but because of the implication that I can have a dog, but should my dog somehow achieve human level of cognizance and despite any previous displays of loyalty he may have shown toward me, he will not hesitate to shoot my ass to be a part of the pack. Fucking dogs...always caving to peer pressure.

I've made my opinions clear on another thread, so I won't waste time reiterating them here, but as an avowed "Pro New Theme Song-er," I would just add this: First of all, let's all just take a step back and recognize we are all different and all have different musical tastes that have nothing to do with our age, race, country of origin, or socio-economic background. So let's try to keep it respectful. Secondly, the new song was fan made! I'm not saying this is a reason why someone should like it or prefer it over the old one, but more as a challenge. This guy, a fan just like us, took the time and effort to write and record this song. Say what you will, but the production value on the song is pretty tight. From day one the HDTGM crew has been very supportive of their fans and their contributions to the show. If you don't like the new song--write a new one, submit it to Paul, and see what happens. But bitching on the forums simply because it doesn't suit your singular tastes doesn't seem like a very efficient way of achieving your goal. So do what you want, keep complaining in the hopes that someone on the crew comes around to your way of thinking (which may be a tough sell considering they obviously like it or it would already be gone) or write a new theme song. In the mean time, my best suggestion is for you to just just fast forward through it. It will be as if it doesn't even exist.

Y'know...if I ever find myself in a situation where a mutant, hyena-swine monster is glaring at me over the partially masticated corpse of my crazy-ass kidnapper, and then, this very same hyena-swine monster roars at me, "Now I am the Law! None shall escape! That is the Law!" do you want to know what I'm definitely not going to waste time doing? Hauling my kidnapper's corpulent ass over to the river and sit quietly as his monster animal children somberly eulogize him. Fuck that guy! This isn't the time for staid theological musings! If there ever was a time where discretion could unequivocally be considered the better part of valor, I would say it would have to be right after the giant pig monster with emotional issues has just brutally murdered and feasted upon the man he considered to be both his father and his God, developed a taste for human flesh, and explicitly stated his intention of being the author of my gruesome and painful death. Screw introspection; run motherfucker!!!