Cameron H.

Can we all just stop for a moment and drool over Fraction's Hawkeye (Hawkguy? ) run? Also, I doubt they'll have the budget for it, but I hope the Netflix Iron Fist show borrows liberally from his Immortal Iron Fist run. If you haven't read it, it is fantastic. Same artist (Aja) he had with Hawkeye. It made Iron Fist my favorite Marvel hero right beside (Richard Rider) Nova.

AND HE DOES!!!! He gives a look like, "Fuck, I guess I just leave her then. That sucks." To add to your 616 vs. Ultimate argument, 616 Hawkeye used to bump heads with Cap a lot--especially in the early days. So him disobeying Cap's order would not only make him more likeable ("Fuck him, I'm going to save my friend no matter the consequences."), but would have given him a reason to be insubordinate to Cap, which would have been in line with that characterization. You wouldn't even need his family to be there--who I am convinced are only in the movie to trick us into liking the movie version of Hawkeye.

Exactly, I wouldn't even say dated so much as, "not in line with the characters." The line Iron Man says, "You and Banner better not be playing hide the zucchini" is not only just gross, but is something a Middle Schooler might say, not an adult with Tony Stark's supposed level of sophistication. And, not to bring up the "monster" thing again, I don't think it is terrible to write a character who can't have a child to feel "less than." I have an Aunt (my favorite Aunt) who has battled with cancer for much of her adult life. She has never had children--never even really expressed an interest in having children--but when she was in her forties, she had to have most of her reproductive organs removed to save her life. I remember sitting in a hotel room with her as she sobbed about how that made her feel. That even if she never had children of her own, and probably never would have anyway, she felt less like a woman because that option had been taken away from her. That's pretty heavy stuff. So I get where BW is coming from, but it is such a delicate issue that it can't be fully explored in a 5 minute scene in a movie where robots are trying to destroy the world--especially not in the context that she is comparing herself to a gigantic, rage monster, who may or may not have just killed a bunch of innocent people. And, at the very least, if you feel this line has to be in the movie, at least have Banner say, "You're not a monster..." They just leave it there, like, I guess since she can't have babies it must be true. Otherwise, take it out of the movie! It doesn't belong here. If you want her to feel like a monster, why not just bring up all the pre-established "red in her ledger" bull crap? I'm sorry, guys. I know no one wants to come here and hear me rail against a movie that came out months ago, but damn. The more I think of it, the more AoU pisses me off. I hate the fact that there are three women in it--all of whom are supposed to be strong--and they are treated like crap. Aside from all the Black Widow nonsense, you have Maria Hill who is attacked on the Helicarrier and is not allowed to deliver the killing blow on a robot--she shoots it six times or so and then Fury has to jump in to finish it off. You also have the Scarlet Witch, who is busy wrecking a bunch of Ultrons, but suddenly--in the middle of tearing them apart--is overcome with fear and needs Hawkeye to come in and give her a pep talk. What the Hell, movie? Why couldn't it be Quicksilver who is overcome? It might have made his death more impactful and less Whedon-esque "death for death's sake." After seeing this movie, I couldn't be happier that the Russo's are taking over. Unfortunately, they are still saddled with a lot of Whedon's BS, but I think they'll be able to successfully navigate around the detritus.

I agree with you on this. I brought up the cave thing, because by virtue of him bringing it up, I was left no choice but to compare the scenes. Had he not said anything, when I watched the cave scene, all I could have said was, "That was weird and out of place," but otherwise, pretty harmless. I just felt like the movie had too much of Whedon's stink on it--and this is coming from someone who generally likes a lot (not all) of what he has done. I just didn't feel like there was dialog in the movie, just an endless stream of quips. And while some were funny, there were so many of them that none of them had room to breathe. It was like the entire movie was written backward (i.e. "I want Iron Man to say this line, so what can I have Cap say to get IM to say that?"). It just didn't feel like anything was organic (Ha! They fight robots in this movie!). And when the movie wasn't preoccupied with "what funny thing can someone say here?" it was awash in pseudo-sentimentality. BW: I would've joined you, but uh, it didn't seem like the right time. BB: They used up all the hot water. BW: I should've joined you. BB: Missed our window. BW: Did we? It's like Whedon has forgotten how people actually talk. Or, at the very least, doesn't understand how relationships work. The Black Widow/ Hulk thing just felt so icky. I mean, I get it. Hawkeye, Widow, and Hulk don't have their own franchises so let's get into their characters more. Let's give Hawkeye a farm and a family! That's "depth of character," right? And his wife, she'll be like, a total baby factory. This is to establish that she's not a monster. Great Idea! And, okay, what's Widow going to do? Well, she's got a vagina, doesn't she? I guess we better give her a boyfriend--even if that relationship hasn't been pre-established or make any sense! Boom! Character growth! High fives, everyone! The whole movie just made me ask: What the FUCK is goin' on here?! And to be fair, I think the reason I had such issues with it is that I expected so much from it and really wanted to like it. Also, I loved Maximum Overdrive!

Yes! I couldn't agree more! Yes! I couldn't agree more! Yes! I couldn't agree more, bro! Yes! I couldn't agree more! Yes! I couldn't agree more! Yeah, Bro--I couldn't agree more, bro! Yes! I couldn't agree more!

See, that didn't bother me too much. I'm not going to go so far as to say AoU angered me, but I will say I was disappointed and it should really think about what it did.... Maybe part of my problem was I just got around to finishing Daredevil on Friday, which I felt was really, really good, and then I turn around and see...this. I mean, a lot of the bad things about it have already been said about Ultron online, but I will say that I could easily spot a Whedon scene from a Marvel mandated scene, and in my opinion, Marvel was mostly right and Whedon was almost always wrong. For instance, Whedon said: "The dreams were not an executive favorite either — the dreams, the farmhouse, these were things I fought to keep … With the cave, it really turned into: they pointed a gun at the farm’s head and said, “Give us the cave, or we’ll take out the farm,” — in a civilized way. I respect these guys, they’re artists, but that’s when it got really, really unpleasant." Um...the cave--although pointless for this movie's plot--lasted maybe 3 minutes? The goddamn dreams and farm house, on the other hand, Christ--they had to have made up at least a quarter of the film's entire run time--and they were interminable! Jesus man, Marvel is just asking for three minutes to set up Infinity War, and you're going to give them shit? And, I'm sorry, but having your only female Avenger say, "You still think you're the only monster on the team?" because she had sterilization forced upon her--that's fucked up. Why is that even something that has to happen in an Avengers movie? And, for that matter, why does Black Widow have to be with anyone and why do babies have to factor into it at all? I could go on, but I'll spare everyone my vitriol. It's not like I would suggest it for HDTGM or anything--it's not that kind of bad. It just did not make me happy. The things I did like about it were the things that only happened briefly. For example: I thought Andy Serkis' character was much more interesting than Ultron; I liked The Vision; I wish there had been more Falcon and War Machine; and I feel like the Twins were a wasted opportunity. Other than that, I don't really have anything good to say about it.

I had three movies to watch this weekend, none of which I had seen, and only time enough to watch one. They were: Mad Max: Fury Road, Avengers: Age of Ultron, and Maximum Overdrive. I chose to watch the Avengers... I'm a Marvel guy, but damn if that wasn't a steaming pile of crap. I guess this is what I get for shirking my HDTGM responsibilities.

Do we need Maxwell Keeper to fly in from Tallahassee?

Did he scare the Hell out of you?

Weren't you a co-winner on that one w/ Taylor Anne, Cambert, and Plan B? Besides, Paul thinks you're a winner, and isn't that all that really matters?

Between "I'm shit with emotional math" from the F&F fanfic and "Garbage trash for babies" over on the CBB forum, this week has brought me two awesome new idioms that I plan to use as much and as obnoxiously as possible for the foreseeable future. Thanks Earwolf!

Yeah, I listened to it as well and was really close to proposing another universal Display Name change for the forums where we all changed our display names to variations of "Special Bunny 1, 2, 3, etc..." Unfortunately, my last attempt at these types of hijinks didn't go as well as I'd hoped.

HA! You know what? I promise, that prior to writing my post and saying that I personally felt that calling someone/something "retarded" was offensive, I read everyone's post. I did not even catch that Theindigi had written that... I guess it just goes to show, if you aren't looking to be offended, you won't be.

I didn't know that the ghost of Milton Berle had a account on the Earwolf forums... Here's my title for Fast 10: Fast 10: They Use the Wrong Side of the Maxi Pad in the Glove Box to Bandage Dom's Wound: the Movie. I realize that's a mouthful, but we can easily abbreviate it to F10TUWSMPGBBDWM for simplification.

First of all, I feel a bit awkward addressing this obvious and desperate cry for attention--if that wasn't what your intent was, then I cannot fathom why you bothered to paste your email to Scott in its entirety on the forums. However, if your intent was to get everyone to listen to a live episode recorded three years ago--mission accomplished. If you actually bothered to listen to the episode, you'd realize that the jokes came after Gelman contentiously (humorously) accused Scott of being a "Super Christian"--which I find very hard to believe is anywhere close to being factual. Put in this position, the only logical (comedic) place for Scott to take this accusation was to "yes/and" what Gelman was saying. If you honestly believe that these were Scott's beliefs, then I can only conclude that comedy is just not for you. You gave it a shot, but ultimately, you failed. For that, I'm truly sorry. Look man, I get it. We all have our comedy demarcations. For me, I don't think rape jokes or calling people a "retard" is funny--at all! Yet, in this very episode, Jon Daly (as John Daly the Golfer) did both of those things, and do you know what I did? I just didn't laugh. It was pretty easy. Do you know what I'm not going to do? Demand an apology from Jon Daly for a bit he did three years ago. Why? Because, based on what I know of him from interviews and various podcasts, I don't think they reflect his true, personal beliefs. I will continue to judge him for his current actions rather than words long since said. You are under no obligation to think anything anyone says is funny, but demanding an apology from Scott seems to be more of a weird power trip on your part rather than any genuine distress over what was said during the show. I can only assume that you must be 1.2.... ETA: Oh, and how dare you evoke Harris Wittles' name in your little diatribe to somehow strengthen your argument. Fuck you.

Fair point. I re-watched 2 Fast about a month ago and I couldn't remember if he and Mendes had a thing or not. I read the plot summary on Wikipedia and I didn't see anything. I mean, if you can't go to Wikipedia to confirm whether or not two characters hook up in a movie then I think we need to just get rid of the whole damn thing. Also:

I have a couple of additional observations on F7 that I don't think anyone has touched on yet. When Dom and Mia are leaving the house just before it blows up she tells Dom that Brian "misses the bullets," but does anyone else recall what he told her before that? According to Mia, Brian tells her, "He doesn't miss the girls. He doesn't miss the cars..." Um...he "doesn't miss the girls?" Since the first movie, hasn't it always been Brian and Mia? I know they are separated for a time between the first and fourth movie, and since the chronology of these movies is a bit wonky it makes it hard to determine, but when was he ever just fucking around with the race car groupies? And even if during their estrangement he did stray, is that something you'd ever tell your significant other? "You know, honey--you'd think that the thing I miss most is all the indiscriminate sex I've had with the scantily clad, racer babes, but you'd be wrong. It's actually all the near death experiences, I miss the most. Although, sometimes they were one and the same, if you know what I'm saying! Oops, sounds like our son needs another bottle. I'll be right back..." I would also guess that one of the "miss the bullets" scenes would have had to have been done after Walker's death (I'm thinking the bomb scene)*--since the second scene feels redundant to the first. If not, I guess it just further proves what a raging narcissist Dom is since--when he says it to Brian--he has this look on his face like, "I get it man. I'm so close to you, I know exactly how you're feeling." No dipshit, you're just parroting back what Mia told you word for word. Stop trying to get this guy to buy that you've got some mystical hotline to his soul. The other moment that kind of bums me out is in Abu Dhabi just before their daring three skyscraper escape from Shaw. In this scene, they've driven the car through a wall into the party, Letty is laid out on the floor, and Roman rushes to help her. The elevator chimes, and who should walk out, but the inexorable Deckard Shaw who fires a couple of rounds into the ceiling for good measure. He tries to stop Dom, but even getting hit by a car isn't enough to slow him down. Pandemonium breaks loose. They're only means of escape is to launch the car out of a window. Shaw chases after them, but there's nothing he can do. Our heroes have escaped! Well, Dom and Brian have escaped, anyway; Letty and Roman, on the other hand...I guess they just escape through the ancient art of movie editing. I mean, Shaw is after everyone that he blames for his brother's condition, not just Dom. And although it could be argued that Roman, and a severely injured, Letty (who just made a huge scene by being in a brutal fight with one of the bodyguards) were able to make their escape with the rest of the partygoers, but Dom can't possibly know that! He makes zero effort to rescue them or ensure their safety. For all he knows he just left a really good friend and his "lover" to the whims of a madman just so he could pull off a really sick stunt. What a prick! *In all fairness, if one of these scenes was added after Walker's death, it is a credit to the filmakers that I can't tell which one it is.

Greetings fellow citizens of SPONTANEANATION--both native born and naturalized! I had an idea, probably not a very good one as it has made me stop and consider the amount of free time I'm squandering, to compile a list of the guest questions asked on each episode. And while I feel like it would be a handy resource to easily find which question was asked on each episode and provide the probably* identity for each of the question askers (which I get the feeling may be a relief for Mr. Tompkins), I felt, more importantly, that it would give people an opportunity, should they feel so inclined, to answer the questions themselves! I am of the opinion that everyone has a story, and while all of the guests have been wonderful, I don't feel like you need to be a big time, Hollywood hotshot to tell a fascinating tale. If the interest in this thread is there, I will update the list on a weekly basis, if not, well...I guess it will just die a wretched and piteous death--forgotten deep within the bowels of the forums. Feel free to answer as many as you'd like, I would ask only one thing: please, please, please be respectful! I have been a forum member for a year and haven't run into too many assholes, but if someone says something you don't agree with--and you don't have the capacity to engage in courteous or considerate debate--please withhold your comment and just ignore it. This is not to say that "joke" answers/responses are discouraged, respond any way you want; however, if you decide to conduct yourself in an unmannerly way, I will have no other recourse than to leave your post ignored and "un-liked." So, here it goes: Ep.1 "What is your favorite thing to eat when you are feeling sad? And, if you don't feed your feelings like I do, why are you a robot?"--Busy Phillips Ep. 2 "Do you have a perpetual age in your head--that when you think of yourself--you think of yourself at that age? And, if so, what is the age and why?"--Michael McMillian Ep. 3 "Who was your hero growing up--fictional or otherwise ("otherwise" meaning real)? And, if you could, would you trade places with that hero?" -- Jason Ritterj Ep. 4 "What was the first time you experienced the emotion 'humiliation?'" -- Melanie Lynsky Ep. 5 "If someone asked you when you were thirteen years old, 'Who are the five people you would invite to a dinner party?' who would you have said?" -- Dave Foley Ep. 6 "Where were you when you realized God was a wholly implausible lie?" -- Maria Thayer Ep. 7 "What's your favorite invention?" -- Kaitlin Olson Ep. 8 "What do you like most about yourself?" -- Elizabeth Reaser Ep. 9 "What animal would you save from extinction if you could?" -- Michael Sheen Ep. 10 "What is the earliest memory you have of doing something 'cruel?'" -- Justin Kirk Ep. 11 "What is the thing you desire that you are most ashamed of desiring?" -- Aimee Mann Ep. 12 "Do you have social anxiety, and if so, how does it manifest?" -- Open Mike Eagle Ep. 13 "Why did you choose that outfit today?" -- Colin Hanks Ep. 14 "Did you ever name your car? If not, what the Hell is wrong with you?" -- John Hodgeman Ep. 15 "Do you believe in ghosts? Where is your evidence?" -- Jen Kirkman Ep. 16 "Why would you never talk to your cousin--if you needed a reason?" -- Aaron Abrams Ep. 17 "You win a contest that entitles you to draft a 28th Amendment to the Constitution, guaranteed to pass, the only stipulation is it must be 'food related.' What is your Amendment?" -- Paget Brewster Ep. 18 "Gun to your head: choose a reality competition show to come to your home." -- Raphael Bob-Waksberg Ep. 19 "Sir or Madam, how do you sleep at night?" -- Lisa Hanawalt Ep. 20 "When was the last time you felt 'furious?'" --Scott Carter Ep. 21 "What ridiculous formality do you slavishly observe?" -- Jonathan Coulton Ep. 22 "If you were forced to make a career change, and your success was guaranteed, what would you do?" -- Bob Kerr Ep. 23 "What was the last thing you've done that you considered 'brave?'" -- Derek Waters Ep. 24 "When did you realize that you weren't alone?" -- Kumail Nanjiani * I am guessing that this list is accurate based on the release of each episode; however, I know that a couple of live episodes have been recorded but not yet released. I don't know if that skews the "question asker" to "answer giver" format or if the live episodes are their own separate beasts all together.

Hey Dan, if it makes you feel any better, I think everyone has a "Man, was I an ungrateful little shit" memory from childhood. For me, when I was 11 or 12 and just getting into Little League, my grandmother got me this Teddy Bear alarm clock for Xmas, that when the alarm went off, it said something like, "Strike one! Strike two. Get out of bed or you're OUT!" It was terrible! I mean, I think it would have been a fine gift were I five or six, but I was pushing thirteen--practically a grown-up. How was I going to score with all the hot girls I was sure to be dating with this piece of shit by the bed? Crazy, right? Anyway, I don't think I said anything, but my reaction to it was of utter contempt and disgust. So much so, that later my mother had to take me aside and give me a reality check. For the rest of the holiday I really tried to sell (unsuccessfully) that it was actually a pretty cool gift. Of course, there are a lot of things we regret or wish we had handled differently. For my part, I try to treat these events like something that lingers on your credit report--after seven years, just let it drop off. You were a different person then, and hopefully, you've learned from your mistake. This theory makes even more sense--in a literal way--if you buy into the (false) theory that every seven years you have regenerated completely new cells.

You know, we could go way off the reservation and do a musical..?

I appreciate this movie's commitment to the grand tradition of holding characters just off screen so they can make an entrance when it's dramatically appropriate. Mr. Nobody: "Okay, here's what's going to happen: I'm going to talk to Toretto and try to convince him to help us. He's not going want to do it, but eventually he'll agree to it after we stroke his ego for a bit, but that's not going to be enough for him. You see, he's going to want his people. So, I'm going to steer the conversation until he says the words, 'Good. But It'll be my way. And my crew.' Once he says this, I'm going to direct his attention to the front of the hanger and BAM! there's his crew! Of course, there's no real strategic reason for doing this, and we could probably achieve the same effect through editing, but...I just kind of want to blow his tiny little mind a little bit."

Ludachrist?

I wanted to express my outrage as well, but between Jason abusing the audience and the sound quality being absolute garbage, I couldn't even listen to it. Does that take us back to a place of normalcy?

I actually agree with you, but if I had to pick my favorite song from the movie it would have to be this one... I loved how well it worked with Shaw leaving the blown out hospital at the beginning.

Something that kind of bugged me during the parachute heist scene was when they are all lined up and the bad guys start firing at them. I mean, we know we don't have to worry about our heroes because they have bulletproof cars--which we know because Ludacris tells us so. But then, when they roll up beside the bus and are fired upon, we suddenly have ample cause for worry because the bad guys are using armor piercing bullets--which we know because Ludacris tells us so. So...if the bad guys have access to armor piercing rounds, and are serious about security, why aren't all their guns loaded with armor piercing bullets? I would have loved it if they went through all the trouble of parachuting in just to be immediately gunned down. Then, if any of them managed to survive, they'd realize that concocting "a plan" requires more than just blindly following the advice of a man who points randomly at a map just to win a dick measuring contest.