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For example, the song Black Boys are delicious or whatever it's called night have been kind of a big deal at the time. The musical came out in 1968 (I think) and that's a year after Guess Who's Going To Dinner (which also has its faults). So, the idea of people having interracial relationships was still kind pretty taboo. Interracial relationships can still be not accepted in a lot of places but the song came across as kind of gross and racist now. So, I'd don't know if the hippies being ridiculous is a matter of time just making outdated ideals seem preposterous.

I'm curious how much of this is updating the movie for the time period. My understanding is the musical was very pro counter culture. In 1979, I'd assume the hippie era was probably seen as silly and ineffective. But maybe the musical was always kind of silly and the characters were accepted because society was in the thick of it? The movie had some pretty notable changes apparently. Claude was the leader of the hippies. He died instead of Berger. So, I don't know if the more complex view of the hippies is due to hindsight or updating it for the times. Has anyone seen the musical?

Yeah, the middle of this movie really soured me on the characters. I'm already pretty anti-hippy (but also pretty far left and anti-authority) and the scene with Hud/Lafayette really nailed what I don't like about the kind of wannabe hippy people I knew in high school. I agree with you about how preposterous the final act is but I was still weirdly moved by Berger going to war to die.

The movie I think sides with Berger and his friends but they also come across as a bit ridiculous. I appreciate that it's not quite taking a strong stance one way or the other on the hippies. I wonder how I would have taken this movie had I watched it as a teen.

I watch them all and I usually pay very little for them. Depending on your library system, libraries are great for DVDs (but I also go by a couple to and from work which makes it pretty easy). At the very least, see if your library has a streaming service for free. A handful of hard to find movies have been on hoopla which is free with my library. Some libraries have kanopy which doesn't cover much HDTGM material but a free streaming service is strik a free streaming service. A couple HDTGM movies have been on tubi which is free. I also still have Netflix DVD (which has been gathering dust for months).

This is a great idea. On one hand, I don't want to bother Paul or make him/earwolf/June/Jason feel like they made a bad decision. On the other hand, $20 is kind of a lot for some people and it's kind of a lot for even more people right now. This is one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of situations since the movie has already been announced. But they pulled an audible by changing Dragonheart to The Boy Next Door once. So, idk. You're saying exactly what I'm thinking on this. Because I personally find the show much more enjoyable if I've watched the movie, I don't listen to episodes until I've seen it. Now that I know it's up for rent in a couple weeks, I'm fine waiting and I'm sure I'll like the episode when I get to it. The world isn't waiting with bated breath for my next C&O. It's mildly frustrating when a movie is especially hard to find or expensive when a ton of people have multiple streaming subscriptions (acknowledging that even that comes from a place of privilege). I want them to do the movies they want. I don't want them to limit everything to Netflix, Prime or Hulu. But when there's something like Prelude To A Kiss that involves joining Hulu/Prime then getting Starz on top of that, it feels like a bit much (though I'm very glad I saw Prelude To A Kiss). I'd really like to avoid another run like Bratz, Garbage Pail Kids, Ninja Terminator, Hard Ticket To Hawaii where a ton of movies in a short period where really hard to access. Also, I realize I probably sound like this right now:

Yeah, I was thinking that same thing. They released an episode from behind a paywall then dropped a $20 movie? Kind of a strange timing thing in my mind. I can technically afford it but I was paying $20 a month for functionally unlimited movies in theaters. I'm probably going to skip this episode unless I can find it just to rent for a few bucks.

Does anyone have a place where I can rent Bloodshot for less than $20? I really don't want to spend that kind of money to watch a movie once by myself in quarantine.

And yet... To my knowledge, the only reason it's believed that Don Cheadle is the reason Swordfish is unreleased is because someone not affiliated with the show or Earwolf claimed that Paul said this at a live show. So, the reality is that no one who isn't Paul, Jason, June, Earwolf staff and maybe Don Cheadle know the reason. Personally, I'm fine with whatever the reason is. I want the hosts to be successful and, should they feel an episode hurts their careers or working relationships, then don't release it. They pulled a released episode for years (and it's generally accepted to be) at the request of someone in the movie. So, this isn't the first time it's happened.

Episode 204 Holidays In Handcuffs

I don't know a ton about the Cowsills to tell you. The Partridge Family is inspired by/based on them if you're familiar with them except the Cowsills felt tamer than that. They looked very clean cut. They wore matching suits well after that stopped being normal for bands. They were big in the late sixties and their hair would have been acceptable in pre-Beatle era music. I don't know if they were religious, but church groupy doesn't feel far off. Just covering the song had to be ironic to the audience.

Oh man, I can't believe I forgot about that song. I only know the Cowsills version but it's pretty great (for maybe the least hippie band of the era to cover).

That's about all I know. There's a song that I assume is called "Manchester England"

My knowledge of this is almost entirely based on that episode of Head Of The Class where they performed this musical.

I'd be curious how accurate this is to the law school experience. I'm assuming it's kind of the Platoon of law school movies where he condensed every crazy story into one group of kids. I assume there's some validity because the author was a lawyer.

I liked The Paper Chase just fine. I think the comparison to Fame is interesting and sort of apt. It does kind of feel like a lot of stereotypes we all believe of law school. You're right that it's more focused than Fame. I think following a group of students all in the same classes with a single "villain" gives it a bit more structure.

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I'm not sure I even know entirely what I mean by Easy Rider for the 80s or 90s. I guess I look at Easy Rider as a movie that defined a specific moment in culture that sparks a lot of peoples imaginations, but really wasn't of the culture at all. How many people actually went and lived like Wyatt and Captain America? Or even attempted it? Or even kind of seriously thought about it beyond "man, that would be sooo cool"? And yet it seems like a lot of people treat Easy Rider as a "YOU HAD TO BE THERE, MAN!" kind of movie despite never being there themselves. If that makes any sense? I haven't seen Reality Bites but my perception of what I think it is kind of fits it. Empire Records kind of does to an extent. The closest I can think of would be Wall Street but I'm not sure if that's quite right either. People use it as a definition of the 80s. It didn't necessarily create yuppie culture, but I think it popularized it the way Easy Rider did. But I think very few people left Wall Street dreaming of being Gordon Gecko and everything he stood for (though some audience members certainly did).

I think what frustrates me most about Easy Rider is that I want to like it. Or, when I hear what people like about it, I like all that stuff as well. It's truly independent cinema made in the moment (both in the moment of the scenes and as time capsule of culture). You mention being unable to fix what's wrong with this country as a theme and that resonates with me as well. I guess I could talk a lot about what others see in the movie as great. On paper, it's a great movie but the final product leaves me kind of cold. I don't have a lot of concrete thoughts on the movie (partly because it's been years since I watched it) other than I didn't think much of it. I think my ideas are all over the place because the movie is all over the place. I guess a perfect critique of this movie, or at least my take away from it, is that I see them riding down the road on a motorcycle, Born To Be Wild blaring and I absolutely want to do the same thing. I don't even particularly like motorcycles, but this primal area of my brain wants to ride a motorcycle during that scene. It seems so thrilling and and free. But I feel the exact same urge listening to Born To Be Wild on the radio without the movie playing. All the stuff around this movie (soundtrack, politics, culture of the time) seems to be doing the heavy lifting for this movie. There's probably some 80s/90s movie that is the equivalent to Easy Rider that was just right place/right time that I was the right age for and I'll love it forever in spite of any logical criticism of it. But I can't think of what that is.

I agree with the negative review they read in the podcast and Sycasey. I didn't rewatch this movie but I remember finding it very boring. I didn't find it have anything interesting to say and I'm not sure what it might be trying to say other than "fuck the old way" in a general sense. While I can get behind that (generally speaking), this felt meandering without purpose or artistry or skill. The only thing I can see that I might appreciate in this is encapsulating a feeling/time. But I think I just don't feel that kind of call that this movie seems to invoke in its fans. Maybe I'm just not connected with 1969 enough to get it. I think what really turns me off is the idea of Wild Hogs (which I haven't seen) or the type of people who just interpret the movie as...I don't know... freedom of the open road, rebellion, whatever. Since the movie is so muddled and the main characters don't seem admirable to me, the movie's influence seems to be people either ignoring its flaws or bringing their own interpretation to it. So, real hard pass on this one. If we must have a movie about what the 60s was like, I'd rather have Woodstock or Gimme Shelter but the AFI doesn't count documentaries.

No amount of quarantine is enough for me to consider watching Intolerance again.

The Share button shows up for me in Firefox but the download button in the doesn't download. It starts opening a page on Omny but doesn't initialize the download. It's working in Chrome though. I knew I should have tried a different browser before asking. Thanks!

Are we still able to download recent episodes? I tried on the earwolf website and the download buttons don't seem to work for me. I'm willing to chalk this up to me being stupid but I'm not sure why it's not working.

That's what I would think but it so unusual to have a much younger actress play older in this age range.

So, how old was Tuesday Weld supposed to be? I assumed she was supposed to be in high school but she was 12 or 13 when this was filmed and she definitely looked 12 or 13.