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I think there's definitely some validity in this. Even after the Beatles, he went to just play back-up for Delaney And Bonnie. I think he wanted to just play music without the stardom (which is true of a lot of musicians).

Lennon saying they were cool feels revisionist to me (at least at the time). I'm sure I've heard Paul say something like How Do You Sleep got personal or hurt or something like that. I'm also pretty sure Paul has kind of reversed his story on Too Many People from saying John perceived insults in it to finally admitting it was directed at him. I don't know if John changing his story is intentional or just misremembering and I wouldn't blame him either way. I guess I'm just glad fights I've been in aren't public. It's been a very long time since I read I Me Mine but John seemed over sensitive about it if he felt ignored. I remember thinking the book didn't say much of anything about anything. Half the book was pictures or song lyrics. My recollection is that Paul and Ringo were barely mentioned too.

There's a Ringo interview I used to have on CD (some time in the 70s but don't know when) where he said "You always hurt the ones you love. We loved each other a lot." I think the Beatles all cared about each other which is pretty evident from they were playing on each other's albums throughout their solo careers. For all the positivity they might have had in interviews, Paul and John were still insulting each other in song (and George happily played on How Do You Sleep). And Paul has said that he thinks George never fully reconciled with John. tldr - i don't know anything but I suspect it was complicated (but what relationship isn't?)

They did break up and halt recording for a week. It's definitely not an unfounded myth. The Twickenham sessions get pretty dreary but it's definitely not all arguing.

Yeah, no idea it would look this good. I'm glad they are making it seem fun (which I'm pretty sure was mandated by the Beatles). I hope it doesn't completely sanitize the sessions but I don't want it to be just fighting either.

This footage looks amazing.

You're right. I was probably thinking of the Musical Mondays streams.

Yeah. This was vaguely how we did it as I recall. If we all really didn't want to see a movie, we'd skip it. I'm fine with going to a new movie if whatever is next is voted out.

I finished the miniseries today. It's made me retroactively think a lot less of the movie. It's got a lot more depth which is pretty obvious since it's four times longer. There are some story bits that I'm glad aren't included in the movie though. The musical sections feel a bit more natural. They are still dancing, singing production numbers, but they feel more organic. No one is a particularly gifted dancer or lip syncher. So, that's remained consistent. Bob Hoskins gives a much better performance than Steve Martin. Partly, it's because the movie gives him more nuance to his character but it's more grounded. Hoskins still plays a bit of a dreamer but Martin feels goofy in comparison.

Wait. This movie takes place over five days? I must have missed that because I thought it was a couple weeks. She gets dumped, starts a relationship with Chip and meets a new guy on Christmas in five days? We're basically going through all this movie for a rebound relationship.

Gotta be honest, this isn't moving me to get the EP. Seeing Paul on it makes me mildly interesting because it's only a matter of time before the last song with two Beatles on it comes out.

Goodnight Vienna is pretty good. All the others I've listened to are more bad than good.

More dedicated than I am. I believe the last studio Ringo album I got was Ringo Rama.

Also, is Barry Watson hot? I think he's alright looking but not hot. You're right. No one responds like a normal person to her saying a doll came to life. This should have been tied in to her working too much and people forcing her to take time off work. This is an obvious story point to get them together and learn to love Christmas that they skipped.

In the live show, they had an extended conversation about June accidentally drinking some plant growth stuff for their Christmas tree. Paul says poison control said it isn't bad for you. I'm assuming this must have been discussed in twitter beforehand, because everyone brought it up like the audience should know about it.

The first song wasn't at all what I was expecting. So that was refreshing. I agree that it's somewhere in the middle. The only problem is no obvious single. Every album since Flaming Pie has had a song or two that was very clearly the most commercial and this didn't have anything like that. I guess that's the trade off for no bad songs either.

I've listened to it once. It's definitely better than Egypt Station. I don't have any strong thoughts on it other than it's all right. The first song has a weird sound for Paul. It sounds like some riff I would have come up with in college. Paul's voice on Women And Wives is a choice. Deep Deep Feeling doesn't need to be 8 minutes long. That's about it.

Also, obsessed with the mouse king and dressed like a nutcracker. This should have just been Mannequin but takes place at Christmas. I'd even settle for Mannequin On The Move at Christmas.

This movie's biggest problem is that it doesn't lean into what it is. It has magical realism, but doesn't seem to care once it's introduced. The should have leaned into Melissa Joan Hart's being alone or a Christmas hater. She didn't hate Christmas; she was busy at work making stuff for Christmas parties. She wasn't some lonely spinster; she was just in a relationship days earlier. The entire movie is maybe two weeks. So, she's dumped, falls in love with Chip, then meets the new guy on Christmas. If anything, she falls in love too quickly. Melissa Joan Hart should have either disliked Christmas or been unable to get over a relationship from years ago. Maybe her last boyfriend dumped her on Christmas Eve or something. That's the entire reason why she dislikes Christmas and is so focused on work. She should actually say, over the nutcracker, "I wish I could find someone to love" as a tear falls onto the doll which is what makes her wish come alive. Chip should also come to life looking more like a nutcracker doll. Big bushy moustache and beard. They should clean him up and reveal he's attractive under all facial hair and uniform. Chip should also be way more intense about his mythical quest (ie - The Fisher King). His zest for life is what sparks Melissa Joan Hart to fall in love. He teaches her to embrace Christmas and ready to love again. I'd argue it's more enjoyable for the audience to see Melissa Joan Hart and Chip get together at the end as well. It's not wildly different from what we have but it acknowledges what this movie actually is instead of downplaying it.

I don't think it's possible. Netflix has released a handful of extremely popular Netflix original shows on DVD, but everything else is locked behind a subscription.

Thanks. That's weird because I tried going through a vpn yesterday. It was the only way I could see the episodes after 3. It worked today though.

I started watching the miniseries on youtube today. The first episode is really good. Bob Hoskins is giving a very different performance that isn't so creepy (yet). Unfortunately, I see the last episode isn't in youtube and there's no place to stream it. So, I guess I had better give up before I get too invested.

I watched this for the first time last year also because of Amy. She gushed about it on Unspooled. I'll admit to tuning out the first time (and a bit this time). As you said in your review, it's kind of repulsive in a way. I think Martin is a great choice (partly because I assume he pushed to get this made therefore, it doesn't get made at all without him). I think he's able to give off the vibe of a guy who really does believe in this dream world he's built up around himself. I haven't watched the miniseries, but I don't get this feeling even from Bob Hoskins as an actor. I suspect the tone is a bit more, I don't know, grimy? because Hoskins feels a bit more rough around the edges than Steve Martin. For this version, I'm not sure who else you could cast in 1981 that can pull off the dreamer character in this way. Robin Williams maybe or Jonathan Pryce (if he can do an American accent). One thing that's weird about this is that, I felt like Steve Martin deserved to be arrested. He didn't do anything though. He didn't kill the blind girl. I don't condone cheating on one's spouse, but that's the only thing wrong he really did. I'm not sure why I felt glad that he was caught.

$79 million which is insane to think about for this movie.

At least one shot from this movie is used on the Turner Classic Movies bumper. The Hobson's Fur Co. shot at 11 seconds. The final shot from this bumper is from Hopper's Nighthawks which Pennies From Heaven also recreates, but I don't know if the TCM version is from this movie or not.