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Holiday In Handcuffs is down there for my least favorite movie HDTGM has done. I was legit angry within the first few minutes. I would watch Bratz again over this.

After that steamy kiss with Sal, I'm shipping Nicole and Sal for life.

Here's the thing that really jumped out to me: How does the prince not recognize Brandy? How does no one recognize her? Normally, I always chalk that up to being a fairy tale or maybe there are some similar looking women in the village or "magic" of some kind. But Jason Alexander makes a point to say to Bernadette Peters something like "We think she was probably younger than you." That line really broke the immersion for me because you can get a general age for her but you haven't narrowed it down "definitely not a white woman"? You could have went down the line and easily eliminated 90% of the women in city. I commend the movie for having an interracial romance on a mainstream television show in the 90s but it's really silly in a movie with a mystery woman.

On one hand, that seems a bit unfair that these people are getting less time. On the other hand, they consistently mess up baking the cake itself and if you can't get that right, how much hope do you realistically have?

As someone who isn't much of a baker, are the times they get to make these cakes realistic? Could a professional baker who never saw these particular cakes make one of them in the time given? Because 90 minutes to recreate the massive designs seems impossible.

For me, I didn't watch it and it's been well over a decade since I saw it. So, I don't have much to say except in very broad strokes. Plus, it really is the probably definitive narrative film on the holocaust both in reputation and merit. There are other good ones (I remember really liking The Shop On Main Street), but outside of The Pianist, I don't think there are others that come close in the general consensus. As others have said, I'm curious (and shocked) how this came to be the introduction to the holocaust for Americans. The statistic from Amy seems unbelievable. Roosevelt even ordered footage be filmed to prove it happened. So, how were we unaware? I was going enough that, in 1993, we probably wouldn't have discussed the holocaust in school in gory detail. I know we watched some documentary in church youth group around this time but maybe we wouldn't have without Schindler's List being released. But I feel like I certainly would have been aware of the holocaust without this movie.

Double fired because I didn't even know Nailed It! had new episodes.

Depends on how we define "personal story". You're right that facts only take us so far but I don't see how someone can know the story then see documentary footage of bodies piled in mounds shoveled into mass graves without being affected. That's not necessarily "personal" but it certainly puts the numbers in perspective in a human way.

I agree that it's not the function of this particular movie to show the full breadth of the Holocaust. I'm not sure any movie could. The closest I've seen is Shoah. It's a 9 hour documentary that is primarily victims and survivors of death camps telling their story. It's haunting and Schindler's List, for all its power, seems almost quaint in comparison.

Holiday In Handcuffs is free here.

I'm sorry to hear about your father, Cameron.

So, a really weird thing taking up space in my brain is that I've heard the phrase "no matter how attractive a woman is, there's a guy tired of her." The place I heard it was on one of those VH1 comedians joke about the news shows like Best Week Ever or I Love The 90s. The news event I remember it being in was Halle Berry's husband cheating on her. So, I wondered if that was put in there intentionally because those shows were all over the place for a while and it's something Halle Berry or someone writing a Halle Berry movie could easily have seen.

I've seen the movie several times and, even this time, I thought "Is the fight only 10 minutes?"

So, I'm listening to the episode and Jason says, "and then he dies...and credits. What if the movie ended there?" That's exactly what happened in our viewing.

Also, because Cam Bert wasn't there to see it, John Ennis from Mr. Show was also in this movie.

Paul F Tompkins

I don't think it's meant to come across as predatory. I don't think that necessarily even crossed Rocky's mind. I'm not even sure if it crossed Adrian's mind. Although as syncasey said, the scene of Rocky holding the door shut features a look from Adrian at Rocky's muscular arm that is very uneasy. That could just be a shy woman on her first date but who knows? I'd be interested in a movie from Adrian's perspective but she stops wearing her glasses halfway through. So, the movie probably gets pretty blurry.

Their date really came across as almost monstrous to me this viewing. I know it's supposed to convey Adrian just being an incredibly shy introvert that Rocky's natural bonhomie wins her over. But he doesn't have a phone, no one will hear her scream, he takes off clothes immediately, he locks her in, he slams his muscular arm against the wall to keep her in, his apartment is disgusting. In any other movie, this would end in sexual assault.

I haven't seen Creed since theatres. So, my memory of it is fuzzy. When I think back about it, the cancer thing does seem unnecessary. But I don't think that in the moment. I'm 100% on board while it's happening. But, again, that's how I feel about a lot of moments in the Rocky franchise. I think the reason Creed is better than most the Rocky movies (besides Coogler just being a better director) is most the other Rocky movies aren't good. I like them all. Rocky 4 is fucking stupid. Drago is basically a cartoon bad guy. That ridiculous speech at the end. The robot. It's the one Rocky movie where I get pulled out of it regularly with how dumb it gets. Rocky 5 is kind of boring but it's not insulting to watch.

Amy's opinions on Creed are technically true but I disagree with her. There's a lot of things that don't hold up to scrutiny or are awfully convenient. But you watch it and it feels right in spite of its logic issues (which is how I'd describe most of the Rocky movies). I'm not sure where Rocky ranks for me on the list. Keep it for sure and probably pretty high. It's just a great watch and it's a weird kind of feel good movie.

One thing about Rocky that comes up is the inconsistency of making it. There is a lot of conflicting stories on how scenes are filmed or even created. There seems to be a lot of mystery to what actually went down. One thing I read years ago online that I've never seen since (and can't confirm unfortunately and could be completely untrue), is the whole idea that Stallone demanded he play Rocky despite the producers complaining may not even be true. The gist of the story was that they never really balked too much at Stallone playing Rocky. It was a super low budget movie with little risk and, had a functional nobody made such demands, they probably wouldn't have relented. But the story of Stallone making his own rags to riches, underdog story just to make Rocky plays better. So, they just let it go and eventually it became the real story. A print the legend kind of moment. Again, I can't verify any of this and I can't remember the website. But keeping what we know of the making of this movie and how a lot of the stories conflict. Knowing what we know about Stallone being a revisionist storyteller of his own life, it's seemed plausible to me.

1. Amy is the best for recognizing the greatness of Rocky Balboa. It is so underrated as a Rocky sequel. 2. Amy and Paul mention Stallone being in a bunch of movies and name Klute and Bananas. I've seen those movies. Stallone is in Bananas but I don't think he has a line. He's just an uncredited tough looking guy but recognizable. In Klute, Stallone is a barely recognizable blob in a crowd scene you'll only notice if you're actively looking for him. But, yes, Stallone had notable parts in Lords Of Flatbush, Death Race 2000 and Capone. So, he wasn't a complete nobody.

They missed a real opportunity to call it the ChristMoose.

I'm just out of Creed II. My current thoughts are that I'd put it above Rocky II but it's been a long time since I've seen it (and I might be running the series this week because there's something about Rocky movies that makes you want to do that). I love how it kind of humanizes Ivan Drago from cartoonish supervillain to, well, probably what a lot of failed (Russian) athletes turn into. I also never realized how much I don't want Phylicia Rashad to be disappointed in me.