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  1. 9 hours ago, Cameron H. said:

    Definitely complicated. There’s a Lennon interview where he talks about “How Do You Sleep” and how he and Paul were actually cool. I think they were definitely like family - they love each other, but could really get on each other’s nerves.

    I heard about the Harrison thing. It’s pretty sad. Lennon was angry for a while that Harrison had omitted him from his autobiography. He tried to reconcile, but Harrison had felt betrayed by Lennon. I’m not sure what the specifics were. Just, like, I needed you and you weren’t there, kind of stuff. He yelled at Lennon for a bit and that was that. They never saw each other again.

    Lennon saying they were cool feels revisionist to me (at least at the time). I'm sure I've heard Paul say something like How Do You Sleep got personal or hurt or something like that. I'm also pretty sure Paul has kind of reversed his story on Too Many People from saying John perceived insults in it to finally admitting it was directed at him. I don't know if John changing his story is intentional or just misremembering and I wouldn't blame him either way. I guess I'm just glad fights I've been in aren't public. 

    It's been a very long time since I read I Me Mine but John seemed over sensitive about it if he felt ignored. I remember thinking the book didn't say much of anything about anything. Half the book was pictures or song lyrics.  My recollection is that Paul and Ringo were barely mentioned too.

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  2. 1 hour ago, Cameron H. said:

    No, I mean, clearly there were issues. I didn’t mean to make it sound like it was all roses. Just from books I’ve read and interviews I’ve seen, it wasn’t all doom and gloom. Even when the breakup was fresh, none of them was ever eager to really put a pin in it. It was clear, even with their issues, they still cared about each other. To hear their 70’s interviews (and, of course, they could be lying, but I don’t know why they would), the biggest reason there was never a reunion really came down to something as banal as scheduling conflicts. I don’t think any of them had any interest in being a full time Beatle again, which I’m sure would have been a whole universe of pressure unto itself, but they were always open to recording together. There’s an interview from like 71 or 72 (so pretty soon after their breakup) where Lennon is like, we are just never on the same page. When I want to get back together, they are all busy with something else, and then when Paul wants to get back together, I’m busy. But I’m sure it will happen. (I’m paraphrasing, of course).

    There's a Ringo interview I used to have on CD (some time in the 70s but don't know when) where he said "You always hurt the ones you love. We loved each other a lot." I think the Beatles all cared about each other which is pretty evident from they were playing on each other's albums throughout their solo careers.

    For all the positivity they might have had in interviews, Paul and John were still insulting each other in song (and George happily played on How Do You Sleep). And Paul has said that he thinks George never fully reconciled with John.

    tldr - i don't know anything but I suspect it was complicated (but what relationship isn't?)

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  3. 2 hours ago, Cameron H. said:

    Considering the amount of footage they have, I would hope so, but I expect it will still be pretty sanitized. That being said, there’s a kind of myth, perpetuated by the original, that they couldn’t stand to be with each other during this time period, and I’m eager to get a fuller picture.

    The film looks gorgeous, though. They’ve done an amazing job with the restoration.

    They did break up and halt recording for a week. It's definitely not an unfounded myth. The Twickenham sessions get pretty dreary but it's definitely not all arguing.


  4. 11 hours ago, AlmostAGhost said:

    We skipped it, but we always stayed with an old HDTGM movie, right? Now we could toss in other things if we felt like it. That may be a bit more fun than just pure rewatching things?

    Or... we can do two Fridays a month, one old HDTGM classic and one new bad movie we decide on together? Just an idea

    You're right. I was probably thinking of the Musical Mondays streams.


  5. 4 hours ago, AlmostAGhost said:

    I do appreciate going through old HDTGM films, but maybe that should be the rough guide and if something comes up we all decide we must see we can jump off the path every so often.

    So maybe the default is an HDTGM film and every month we can decide as a group if we want to deviate to something else?

    (Like, we should probably do this Roped we just learned about together right?)

    Yeah. This was vaguely how we did it as I recall. If we all really didn't want to see a movie, we'd skip it. I'm fine with going to a new movie if whatever is next is voted out.

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  6. I finished the miniseries today. It's made me retroactively think a lot less of the movie. It's got a lot more depth which is pretty obvious since it's four times longer. There are some story bits that I'm glad aren't included in the movie though.

    The musical sections feel a bit more natural. They are still dancing, singing production numbers, but they feel more organic. No one is a particularly gifted dancer or lip syncher. So, that's remained consistent.

    Bob Hoskins gives a much better performance than Steve Martin. Partly, it's because the movie gives him more nuance to his character but it's more grounded. Hoskins still plays a bit of a dreamer but Martin feels goofy in comparison. 

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  7. 11 hours ago, Cam Bert said:

    HouseShare is a shitty app or company. First of all the actual HouseShare person was suppose to come five days before Christmas. They don't show up but MJH thinks Chip is that person so doesn't say anything about them being missing to the company. Then two days before Christmas the company texts her to say the client cancelled due to illness. This is a full three days after the original HouseShare guest was suppose to be staying with her. Shouldn't that message been sent on the day of their scheduled arrival? Also why specify illness, that doesn't affect anything unless illness is a cause to not have to pay. If that is the case HouseShare is terrible. If I booked an AirBNB and got sick and phoned them three full days after my original booking the owner isn't just going to eat the cost of those days. Also showing up a day early does not get you a free night's stay either. 

    Wait. This movie takes place over five days? I must have missed that because I thought it was a couple weeks. She gets dumped, starts a relationship with Chip and meets a new guy on Christmas in five days? We're basically going through all this movie for a rebound relationship.

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  8. 1 hour ago, SaraK said:

    No one seemed to be bothered by the magic/his nutcracker-ness in this movie. When MJH tells someone about the nutcracker coming to life, they basically shrug and say ‘who cares, he’s hot’. If my best friend and/or boss said something like that, I’d take them to a doctor. 
     

    Also, is Barry Watson hot? I think he's alright looking but not hot.

    You're right. No one responds like a normal person to her saying a doll came to life. This should have been tied in to her working too much and people forcing her to take time off work. This is an obvious story point to get them together and learn to love Christmas that they skipped.

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  9. 19 minutes ago, SideofMcG said:

    Look - am I the only one who saw the Nutcracker guy for the first time and thought, "Huh, he kinda looks like Paul Scheer."

    I demand Paul dress up in a nutcracker outfit and post a photo to prove me right!

    Also - I only listened to the start of the episode today - was all the June poisoning saga cut out? Because if so that's the editing of a guilty man right there. #ReleaseThePoisonCut

    In the live show, they had an extended conversation about June accidentally drinking some plant growth stuff for their Christmas tree. Paul says poison control said it isn't bad for you. I'm assuming this must have been discussed in twitter beforehand, because everyone brought it up like the audience should know about it. 


  10. 1 hour ago, Cameron H. said:

    I really liked the first song, and pretty much the whole package together. Like, it feels like a concept album. The problem is, I didn't feel a lot of distinction between the songs. It's not the best thing he's ever done, but it's middle of the road, and I don't hate that. 

    The first song wasn't at all what I was expecting. So that was refreshing. I agree that it's somewhere in the middle. The only problem is no obvious single. Every album since Flaming Pie has had a song or two that was very clearly the most commercial and this didn't have anything like that. I guess that's the trade off for no bad songs either.

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  11. 6 hours ago, Cameron H. said:

    I just started listening to McCartney III. Already I think I like it more than Egypt Station. Feels more raw and experimental — it feels kind of like McCartney I but with better production values.

    I've listened to it once. It's definitely better than Egypt Station. I don't have any strong thoughts on it other than it's all right.

    The first song has a weird sound for Paul. It sounds like some riff I would have come up with in college. Paul's voice on Women And Wives is a choice. Deep Deep Feeling doesn't need to be 8 minutes long. That's about it. 

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  12. 2 hours ago, sycasey 2.0 said:

    It was also kind of weird that Melissa Joan Hart never seemed to realize there was some magic going on with this guy, even though she's literally seen him CRACK WALNUTS WITH HIS BARE HANDS. Like it was a big surprise for her near the end of the movie to learn that he wasn't the AirBNB guest she expected, even though (1) he never rang the doorbell and was just lying on her floor on the first day, (2) all of his stories seem to suggest he comes from a much earlier time period, and (3) HE CAN CRACK WALNUTS WITH HIS BARE HANDS. None of that was a clue?

    Also, obsessed with the mouse king and dressed like a nutcracker.

    This should have just been Mannequin but takes place at Christmas. I'd even settle for Mannequin On The Move at Christmas. 

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  13. This movie's biggest problem is that it doesn't lean into what it is. It has magical realism, but doesn't seem to care once it's introduced. The should have leaned into Melissa Joan Hart's being alone or a Christmas hater. She didn't hate Christmas; she was busy at work making stuff for Christmas parties. She wasn't some lonely spinster; she was just in a relationship days earlier. The entire movie is maybe two weeks. So, she's dumped, falls in love with Chip, then meets the new guy on Christmas. If anything, she falls in love too quickly.

    Melissa Joan Hart should have either disliked Christmas or been unable to get over a relationship from years ago. Maybe her last boyfriend dumped her on Christmas Eve or something. That's the entire reason why she dislikes Christmas and is so focused on work. She should actually say, over the nutcracker, "I wish I could find someone to love" as a tear falls onto the doll which is what makes her wish come alive. Chip should also come to life looking more like a nutcracker doll. Big bushy moustache and beard. They should clean him up and reveal he's attractive under all facial hair and uniform. Chip should also be way more intense about his mythical quest (ie - The Fisher King). His zest for life is what sparks Melissa Joan Hart to fall in love. He teaches her to embrace Christmas and ready to love again. I'd argue it's more enjoyable for the audience to see Melissa Joan Hart and Chip get together at the end as well.

    It's not wildly different from what we have but it acknowledges what this movie actually is instead of downplaying it.

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  14. 2 hours ago, Elektra Boogaloo said:

    Anyone know a way to buy or rent Netflix movies if you don’t have Netflix? I can’t find this “Knight for Christmas” one that is Friday’s livestream anywhere. 

    I don't think it's possible. Netflix has released a handful of extremely popular Netflix original shows on DVD, but everything else is locked behind a subscription. 


  15. 28 minutes ago, Cameron H. said:

    I first heard about this movie years ago when they covered it on The Canon. It was weird because I had pretty much stopped listening to it at that point so why I decided to randomly hop back on for one episode, particularly for a an episode covering a movie I'd never heard about, is pretty odd. It's one of those weird vivid memories of a prosaic event type things. I remember what I was doing at the time and everything. Weird. 

    Anyway, the way Amy spoke about it made me super curious and it's always been in the back of my mind that I need to see it. So a couple months ago when I saw this on sale, I picked it up right away. 

    Pretty much, I agree with what everyone has been saying. Although, I think I disagree with Martin being miscast. I especially wouldn't want someone like Walken in the role as I feel like he would be too intimidating, and I think the role requires someone a little more off beat. Besides his physicality, I think Martin brings brings an off-centeredness to his character. He seems handsome and normal, but there's something that's not quite right about him, too. It's more than just being a horny creep. He gives off an almost serial killery vibe, or, too normal to be normal, if you catch me drift.

    Anyway. I'm glad I bought it. I doubt I will watch it often, but I think I will definitely revisit it from time to time. 

    I watched this for the first time last year also because of Amy. She gushed about it on Unspooled. I'll admit to tuning out the first time (and a bit this time). As you said in your review, it's kind of repulsive in a way.

    I think Martin is a great choice (partly because I assume he pushed to get this made therefore, it doesn't get made at all without him). I think he's able to give off the vibe of a guy who really does believe in this dream world he's built up around himself. I haven't watched the miniseries, but I don't get this feeling even from Bob Hoskins as an actor. I suspect the tone is a bit more, I don't know, grimy? because Hoskins feels a bit more rough around the edges than Steve Martin. For this version, I'm not sure who else you could cast in 1981 that can pull off the dreamer character in this way. Robin Williams maybe or Jonathan Pryce (if he can do an American accent).

    One thing that's weird about this is that, I felt like Steve Martin deserved to be arrested. He didn't do anything though. He didn't kill the blind girl. I don't condone cheating on one's spouse, but that's the only thing wrong he really did. I'm not sure why I felt glad that he was caught.

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